Let the downgrades commence

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The way I see things, Obito was the peak of power in the Naruto universe. Having found the origins of the sage, we can safely say that a Rinnegan user with control of the Juubi and access to both the weapons of the sage and the light and dark tech is truly the most powerful being in the Naruto world. This was Madara's personal goal and everything in the manga that relates to power eventually points to this outcome. Because of this, I feel that once Madara is defeated there is no way to go, but down. If more life is breathed into this manga, it will be a result of characters either personally limiting or giving up their powers. I feel that the most comfortable way for this manga to keep going is for power scaling to be dropped and more focus be given to the story and character development.

Now we can't expect Kishi to forcibly weaken his characters, but without a doubt, I feel he will commit to having one or more characters willingly give up some of their power. This is the answer to all the Naruto vs. Sasuke questions that we each have. How will Sasuke compete? How will the fight be even? It will be a result of downgrades. One option is that Naruto will free Kurama. Another is that Naruto will freely fight without using Kurama's power or by limiting himself to certain chakra forms. If you think about it, it would be well within Sasuke's character to not use EMS if Naruto were to give up Kurama, right? Either way you slice it, I feel the only way an even Naruto vs. Sasuke will happen is if Naruto suppresses his own power. Perhaps a fight of SM Naruto vs. 3 tomoe Sasuke may happen.

My point is that right now, there is really no going up. We cannot expect there to be new things discovered in terms of power, only discoveries in terms of character development and final bits of story. I think the final redemption of this story would be for mass power scaling to take a backseat and focus more on the characters and principles that this manga was built on rather than power. Kishi has told 90% of his story in terms of villians and secrets yet to be discovered. Wouldn't it be amazing if he pulled out all the stops, slowed down his manga and buried us in story and discoveries that don't rely solely on raw power? After this chapter, I have more hope for this manga then ever before. Kishi has set himself up to write an entirely different outcome than any of us expected. There is enough mysteries left unsolved and relationships yet completed that can lead to limitless possibilities. Make us proud Kishi :).
 
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ur drunk, go home.
Anyway, after this, the story needs to end. or at least an all new brand of characters set in a different timeline, I cant imagine their being battle between countries after all that happened.
Ive read so many threads, and this is the first time I've seen that technique be called that. I swear people make up the most random names and then everyone follows in the bandwagon. It depends on where you read the manga, each site translates them differently, oh a the official VIZ translation is yin and yang no light a dark, that aint canon.
 

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I actually agree. I'd prefer a good old Sasuke vs Naruto instead of Kyubi cloak vs Susano. A battle with actual jutsus, strategies and whatnot
 

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This is the first time I've heard that technique be called that. It's a translation change. AND YOU DONT TELL ME WHEN TO GO TO SLEEP.
If you don't sleep at least do some research before calling what other says "shit you just made up".



:| that, or act as an idiot like you just did.
 

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what's funny is Naruto and Sasuke could currently beat Madara soo bad right now, he REALLY needs a power up badly...

maybe Kishi will make Kurama run out of chakra, and Sasuke's eyes hurt for some plot related reason...

they probably would win even with those handicaps to be honest. Naruto's regular chakra is still insane, and Sasuke is used to pain thanks to Susanoo...

plus the whole army is there backing them up, what does Madara have an army of wood clones that even the weaken five kage could beat...

he is soo outgunned its laughable, Kishi better do something quickly!! LOL...
 

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I actually agree. I'd prefer a good old Sasuke vs Naruto instead of Kyubi cloak vs Susano. A battle with actual jutsus, strategies and whatnot
what's funny is Naruto and Sasuke could currently beat Madara soo bad right now, he REALLY needs a power up badly...

maybe Kishi will make Kurama run out of chakra, and Sasuke's eyes hurt for some plot related reason...

they probably would win even with those handicaps to be honest. Naruto's regular chakra is still insane, and Sasuke is used to pain thanks to Susanoo...

plus the whole army is there backing them up, what does Madara have an army of wood clones that even the weaken five kage could beat...

he is soo outgunned its laughable, Kishi better do something quickly!! LOL...
Agreed.

On the topic of the ying/yang tech, we can just call it 10-tails malleable chakra like the wiki, idc.
 

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The OFFICIAL VIZ TRANSLATION IS YING AND YANG NOT LIGHT AND DARK. The idiot is you mr.




Take a read, Yin is the representation of the Dark while Yang is the representation of the Light. Translations are not mistaken, since the Yin and Yang is a eastern concept, the interpretation for western culture must be nearer western people.

Now, Viz does its job mantaining certain words so their translations sounds better. Sadly for you, Viz translations are for western people, so when they translate in that way, they sound corny. They may be official, but that doesn't make them the bests always.

It doesn't matter if I say 4 or 2 + 2, these two are the same things told in different manners.

PS: I don't feel myself like an idiot. The one who started to act cocky and got owned some posts before was you. So calm your tits, I'm not falling in your game.
 
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Take a read, Yin is the representation of the Dark while Yang is the representation of the Light. Translations are not mistaken, since the Yin and Yang is a eastern concept, the interpretation for western culture must be nearer western people.

Now, Viz does its job mantaining certain words so their translations sounds better. Sadly for you, Viz translations are for western people, so when they translate in that way, they sound corny.

It doesn't matter if I say 4 or 2 + 2, these two are the same things told in different manners.

PS: I don't feel myself like an idiot. The one who started to act cocky and got owned some posts before was you. So calm your tits, I'm not falling in your game.
Considering we don't all read Japanese he's right to have assumed what he did. I wouldn't say got owned, more or less slightly corrected. Yin and Yang is used to describe how seemingly opposite or contrary forces are interconnected and interdependent in the natural world; and, how they give rise to each other as they interrelate to one another. Many natural dualities (such as light and dark, high and low, hot and cold, fire and water, life and death, and so on) are thought of as physical manifestations of the yin-yang concept. Light and dark are a form of Yin-Yang.
 
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Take a read, Yin is the representation of the Dark while Yang is the representation of the Light. Translations are not mistaken, since the Yin and Yang is a eastern concept, the interpretation for western culture must be nearer western people.

Now, Viz does its job mantaining certain words so their translations sounds better. Sadly for you, Viz translations are for western people, so when they translate in that way, they sound corny.

It doesn't matter if I say 4 or 2 + 2, these two are the same things told in different manners.

PS: I don't feel myself like an idiot. The one who started to act cocky and got owned some posts before was you. So calm your tits, I'm not falling in your game.
Its light and darkness, yes. But the name its said in the original manga is ying and yang, i don't know why you are making a big deal about it. all i was doing is mentioning it as ying and yang, by the japanese name. You are still giving me links to sites that are not reliable. Mangapanda is not original and official translator. Wiki is not reliable. but i see what you are tying to post. I think the cocky one is you, you feel that you can call others idiots.
 

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Considering we don't all read Japanese he's right to have assumed what he did. I wouldn't say got owned, more or less slightly corrected. Yin and Yang is used to describe how seemingly opposite or contrary forces are interconnected and interdependent in the natural world; and, how they give rise to each other as they interrelate to one another. Many natural dualities (such as light and dark, high and low, hot and cold, fire and water, life and death, and so on) are thought of as physical manifestations of the yin-yang concept. Calling it light and dark isn't common.
I know, but that doesn't give him the right to tell that other people are inventing shit from nowhere.

Its light and darkness, yes. But the name its said in the original manga is ying and yang, i don't know why you are making a big deal about it. all i was doing is mentioning it as ying and yang, by the japanese name. You are still giving me links to sites that are not reliable. Mangapanda is not original and official translator. Wiki is not reliable. but i see what you are tying to post. I think the cocky one is you, you feel that you can call others idiots.
You were the one who started, I just followed your game until a certain point. It depends on you if I shall continue or be calmed again.

PS: I ask you again. Viz has the rights to make the translations and sell. If they have the rights, then are they the bests translators?
 
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