You already lost.I said almost never fight by any other means specifically to include the fights like whiskey peak (obviously he wasnt going to really try to kill luffy, also both got solo'd by nami in that same fight)
I fail to see how for comical reasons ; Nami hitting the two is relevant.
Are you KIDDING ME?! HAKI IS THE EPITOME OF STRENGTH. I've proven to you multiple times that Shanks is a swordsman. Unlike such a point , you cannot prove either has superior Haki anwyays. But because of Mihawks allocated title (by the Gorousei and a built up reputation ; most probably when they all have knowledge of both characters power. Shanks would be called the worlds strongest swordsman if he won his duel with Mihawk. But he isn't. So he therefore didn't win.)Having the strongest haki is not an irrelevent point... People say mihawk is the strongest swordsman, people also say shanks most likely has the best haki. IMO best haki>best swordsman. All the characters mentioned with their battle abilities prove nothing about their full potential in battle and you even said that, saying we dont know if mihawk fights with anything other than swords
Shanks only uses a sword with Haki (much like Mihawk) Prove he doesn't and then your point MIGHT be relevant.
Neither does turning up to MF with an entire crew. So you think Zoro is now the strongest swordsman? Right...Mihawk fodderizing fodder doesnt mean anything. Zoro did a same thing to an arguably stronger crew right after the time skip
Because you totally need stamina,strength and speed to pull a trigger. Right? Physical strength is the joint main attribute of swordsmanship ; therefore (as you said) , with it being irrelevant , you just proved how your own example is illegit.A sharpshooter has to take into all the same skills as a swordsman and that was my point. The only thing would be physical strength which is the trade off to accuracy.
You clearly don't know the logic I am using. My logic is : since Shanks is a swordsman and Mihawk is hailed as the strongest swordsman , it's evident that Mihawk is stronger, although by a tiny margin. It's not difficult to understand. And you have yet to prove or refute a single successful point aganst my logic.I know the logic you are using. Mihawk is the strongest swordsman so in swordsmanship he is stronger and/or more skilled than shanks, which i agree is true, but just because you classify them both as swordsmen doesnt mean anything in terms of overall strength...
He uses his sword (at the heart of his combat style) , hence he is a swordsman (as it is the most important part of his combat style). He chose a sword. Clearly because he is skilled with one (especially if he had other choices of weaponry). Do you classify Law as a swordsman?I know Fujitora uses his blade, but what he does with his blade almost has not with his powers at all. He can literally have any other weapon with him and his power will not change
You've been guessing with nothing to back your points up the whole time. He has been shown with a sword only once. You stand corrected.You see Roger similar to Luffy carrying his sword, even though every time we see roger (not captured), he is wielding a sword or carrying one on him. Now you are just guessing with roger with nothing to back it up.
He's been shown in battle once. He used a sword for the entirity of said battle. You stand corrected. And the power of the bullets is due to Haki (which is a supplement to all fighting styles , so now do you think anyone who can use Haki is not a swordsman?)I think rayleigh is not purely a swordsman because he has been shown more times in battle not using his sword. Like at marineford, he basically gave simple rifle bullets the destructive power of a cannon ball, he has shown that he can be very versatile without a weapon at all
But yet it changes nothing as this battle is (and should be) based categorically and not speculatively.Even if you classify someone as a swordsman it doesnt mean that is the only thing they can do or are willing to fight with