Hyuuga Hiashi vs Senju Tsunade

[Izuna Kakashi Senju]

Tsunade is a linear type of fighter when Hiashi's style is more raffinated. He is not only landing punches randomly, but pin-pointing chakra networks. One touch with his gentle fist style and Tsunade is done for. Her Byakuyou won't even activate itself. Also, Tsunade's punch is nothing compared to Juubi's powerful tail which was able to destroy blow away thousand fodders, destroy SM Naruto's resilient clone, push a TBB with a finger, yet Hiashi

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his attack in one move and even pushed it back with

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. This attack attacks internal organs as well as being a powerful long range attacks(domain where Tsunade lacks in her fighting style)

I agree with this.

 

[paratise]

Hiashi wins. If he feels like 1shotting Tsunade then all he has to do is ask Sasori to do it for him.

Sasori ain't no anyone's *****.

I agree with this.

So you agree with overall thread?

@Tazzilla i will counter your arguements; but don't expect it too soon enough because:
1) you wrote a long paragraph.
2) I have certain deeds to do for now.

 

[Shura]

Sasori ain't no anyone's *****.

You're such a bad troll.. Even FT is a better troll than you are. u_u

 

[KingHashirama]

@Taz, you are downgrading Tsunade by using Katsuyu in the battle.

 

[TheEvilOne]

@Taz, you are downgrading Tsunade by using Katsuyu in the battle.

Wut? SO Kishi downgraded Hashirama because he used a summon to defeat Madara?

 

[KingHashirama]

Wut? SO Kishi downgraded Hashirama because he used a summon to defeat Madara?

Hashirama never used a summon to defeat Madara... #Post irrelevent.

Tsunade according to Jiraiya (Man who has seen the Hyuuga/Uchiha/Sarutobi).. stated that NO ONE can stand shoulder to shoulder with Tsunade in regards to hand to hand combat .

 

[TheEvilOne]

Hashirama never used a summon to defeat Madara... #Post irrelevent.

Tsunade according to Jiraiya (Man who has seen the Hyuuga/Uchiha/Sarutobi).. stated that NO ONE can stand shoulder to shoulder with Tsunade in regards to hand to hand combat .

So the Shinshusenju isn't a summon? Ok.

I guess Hiruzen stomps Hashirama because Kabuto/Iruka stated he was the strongest Hokage.

 

[Strict]

So the Shinshusenju isn't a summon? Ok.

Shinsuusenju isn't a summon.. It's Mokuton-Senjutsu.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Shinsuusenju isn't a summon.. It's Mokuton-Senjutsu.

Probably you are right. But it still looks like a summon ^

 

[Strict]

Probably you are right. But it still looks like a summon ^

Well, you could say the same for the PS, Mokujin and Wood Dragon. Their massive scaled Jutsu just look like creatures.

At OT, difficult. Hiashi is more skilled then Neji and proved more endurance. Neji didn't survive the spamm of Obito's wooden spears, Hiashi repelled all. With the level of defense and type of offensive Hiashi has, Tsunade would have problems in the long run. She couldn't protect herself against Hiashi's attacks and deal damage in the long run with just her AoE. And as already mentioned in the Tsunade vs Neji thread, Byakugo shouldn't be able to reactivate the blocked Chakra points, merely heal the internal damage which was left to her organs (what is also debatable, because if most of her Chakra points are blocked, she can't control her Chakra - thus, she isn't able to use Ninjutsu (also Medical Ninjutsu) anymore. Tenten states, that Kaiten knocks away the victims Chakra [

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] and Chakra is the source of Jutsu.

Neji says, as the victims 64 Chakra points are blocked, he isn't able to use Chakra temporary [

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]. No use of Chakra, no use of Jutsu, no Byakugo, so no healing.

I tend to Hiashi.

 

[paratise]

Well, you could say the same for the PS, Mokujin and Wood Dragon. Their massive scaled Jutsu just look like creatures.

At OT, difficult. Hiashi is more skilled then Neji and proved more endurance. Neji didn't survive the spamm of Obito's wooden spears, Hiashi repelled all. With the level of defense and type of offensive Hiashi has, Tsunade would have problems in the long run. She couldn't protect herself against Hiashi's attacks and deal damage in the long run with just her AoE. And as already mentioned in the Tsunade vs Neji thread, Byakugo shouldn't be able to reactivate the blocked Chakra points, merely heal the internal damage which was left to her organs (what is also debatable, because if most of her Chakra points are blocked, she can't control her Chakra - thus, she isn't able to use Ninjutsu (also Medical Ninjutsu) anymore. Tenten states, that Kaiten knocks away the victims Chakra [

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] and Chakra is the source of Jutsu.

Neji says, as the victims 64 Chakra points are blocked, he isn't able to use Chakra temporary [

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].

I tend to Hiashi.

Thanks; that's what i think and trying to say.
I will counter Tazz too (covered about half of his post, it is too damn long lol) in the closest possible time.

 

[Strict]

Thanks; that's what i think and trying to say.
I will counter Tazz too (covered about half of his post, it is too damn long lol) in the closest possible time.

There is really no need to post such long posts like Tazilla does regarding Tsunade, when you can explain the clear superiority of a Charakter with a few lines. But we know from Tsunade fans that they beat about the bush, are biased and creatively hyping her.

 

[paratise]

There is really no need to post such long posts like Tazilla does regarding Tsunade, when you can explain the clear superiority of a Charakter with a few lines. But we know from Tsunade fans that they beat about the bush, are biased and creatively hyping her.

He worth my post for a counter; i should do the same as well and i don't want to just leave away most of the points he pointed out.

 

[TheEvilOne]

The Byakugou counters the Juuken. It is an external chakra source = A Hyuuga can't block it.

 

[Turson]

The Byakugou counters the Juuken. It is an external chakra source = A Hyuuga can't block it.

Yeah, I think that Jyuuken has nothing on Byakugou regeneration.

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-> A lot of Tenketsus in Tsunades abdomen must have been destroyed by those swords, but that didnt stop regeneration from working.

 

[paratise]

The Byakugou counters the Juuken. It is an external chakra source = A Hyuuga can't block it.

No it is not; it is a part of Tsunade's chakra unlike Kyuubi; which is another entity.
Not to mention it is needed to be activated to be useful; Tsunade might not even be able to activate it since her chakra points are blocked and it can's be accomplished without chakra; and

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.

 

[paratise]

Yeah, I think that Jyuuken has nothing on Byakugou regeneration.

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-> A lot of Tenketsus in Tsunades abdomen must have been destroyed by those swords, but that didnt stop regeneration from working.

Her points are not fully blocked, there is nothing suggests physical injuries like that would do

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to a person; 8 triagrams 64 palms blocks all points.

 

[Strict]

The Byakugou counters the Juuken. It is an external chakra source = A Hyuuga can't block it.

The Byakugo is still influenced by Tsunade's own Chakra which drains upon usage, it's not merely the Chakra releasing from her seal, which supports her. I don't actually think Byakugo is an external source. It is still Tsunade's Chakra which he sealed to release it at the right moment to boost herself and perform Byakugo, a (medical) Ninjutsu which originates from the user, not the seal. Even if we consider that you are right, the Chakra pathway system of a human is still the source of all his techniques, whether Ninjutsu, Taijutsu or Genjutsu, such as her Chakra enhanced punches or any significant movements, because anything is based on Chakra. And there is no indication that Byakugo, once activated, will negate the effect of Juuken by reactivating the Chakra points.

 

[Turson]

Her points are not fully blocked, there is nothing suggests physical injuries like that would do

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to a person; 8 triagrams 64 palms blocks all points.

Yeah, blocking all tenketsus at the same time could work, but I really dont think Hiashi would be able to do that.

there is nothing suggests physical injuries like that would do this to a person

Its obvious that those sword didnt block all her Tenketsus, but its also obvious that quite a lot of them were destroyed.

 

[paratise]

Yeah, blocking all tenketsus at the same time could work, but I really dont think Hiashi would be able to do that.

Its obvious that those sword didnt block all her Tenketsus, but its also obvious that quite a lot of them were destroyed.

8 triagrms 64 palms is a very fast technique; it was able to succee on the likes of Lee, he learned the opening of 4 gates to avoid hits to be "untouchable". Someone needs to be highly fast to avoid all hits.

Some of them were destroyed, but she still had her activating chakra.
64 palms wil be somewhat like she get impaled and destroyed by everywhere at once; as far as chakra coil system goes.