How on earth Naruto has surpassed/is stronger than Minato?

[iNotorious]

Naruto can't be greater than Minato at this point but he will be at the end. If they were to fight, Minato takes this. Remember that Kurama is part of Naruto because of Minato's seal. Without that seal, you will get base Naruto. One touch from Minato and that seal is gone.

Minato's ST barrier is too OP. His FTG is too OP. Even with Kurama, there is no offensive jutsu in Naruto's arsenal that can penetrate ST barrier because Naruto's strongest jutsu that kurama can give is the TBB and that is childs play to Minato's ST barrier. Well, Kurama's chakra boosts his speed but Minato also is a speed god and with FTG with him which is instant, Naruto can't lay a hand on him.

I can't take your argument valid due to your signature.

 

[Bronze]

BSM Narudo > BM Minato > KCM Minato > KCM Narudo > Alive Minato > SM Narudo > Base Minato > Base Narudo.

 

[iNotorious]

BSM Narudo > BM Minato > KCM Minato > KCM Narudo > Alive Minato > SM Narudo > Base Minato > Base Narudo.

Finally somebody with logic

 

[Bronze]

Finally somebody with logic

They call LOGIC for reason

 

[iNotorious]

They call LOGIC for reason

Minato fans going ham today.

BSM Narudo frog kata + negative feelings + SM sensing + BSM Speed = OP

 

[3MESSIAH]

non edo minato sucks compared to naruto

 

[esenn1]

Naruto can't be greater than Minato at this point but he will be at the end. If they were to fight, Minato takes this. Remember that Kurama is part of Naruto because of Minato's seal. Without that seal, you will get base Naruto. One touch from Minato and that seal is gone.

Minato's ST barrier is too OP. His FTG is too OP. Even with Kurama, there is no offensive jutsu in Naruto's arsenal that can penetrate ST barrier because Naruto's strongest jutsu that kurama can give is the TBB and that is childs play to Minato's ST barrier. Well, Kurama's chakra boosts his speed but Minato also is a speed god and with FTG with him which is instant, Naruto can't lay a hand on him.

exactly this !

 

[Xāvî1]

It's no longer Naruto, it's Kurama doing all the fighting. Naruto hasn't surpassed anyone alone.

Kurama is also part of naruto's power, just like sasukes ems

 

[AGoodBoy]

Because naruto has a huge fanbase of morons. They even believe BM(not even bsm) naruto can beat Edo madara and sm hashirama. They believe SM naruto(without kyuubi) can beat nagato, minato and ems sasuke. They believe kcm naruto can beat naga to and naga to almost ripping out narUTO's soul was PNJ.

OP you're fighting a losing battle. Sensor, super fast, juubi jin obi to couldn't sense, see or react to FTG, but naruto will just because.

 

[xcoyote]

Because he canonically did surpass him and i do trust Kurama's word more than fanboy speculation.

 

[Flawž]

Minato cannot do anything to naruto.

Naruto can tank all of Minato's jutsu's and has the speed to stand a chance against FTG.

20 + KCM clones and 5 BM clones solo Minato mid diff.

 

[Oblivionx]

i don't see how this is debatable....! naruto has nothing that can hurt minato...! minato was able to keep up with pre sage obito and naruto got fodderized....! and i know it was BM naruto but sasuke was along with him so naruto had help...! and that was KCM minato keeping up with obito( note: didn't use KCM for anything other than maintaining barrier, meaning base minato was keeping up with pre sage obito....! now you give naruto BSM and minato BM so how the hell did that put naruto above minato???
BM minato is leagues above naruto...! he ain't fighting because plot is allowing him to...! naruto doesn't has onmydon(or whatever) so SM doesn't matter....!

 

[saw2097]

Because he canonically did surpass him and i do trust Kurama's word more than fanboy speculation.

This.

Its been said many times that Naruto surpassed Minato.

 

[Ryanel]

For me naruto hasn't passed him yet. Kishi trolled minato hard in this battle. He cut one arm ( that has not grown back, but the 3rd is in one piece), got his chakra sucked (but managed to give naruto chakra) and from nowhere charkra arms that he could of used to aid him do jitsu which would of negated the one arm thing. At the mo the plot is making naruto look stronger but those who pay attention would have noticed naruto is not yet

 

[shelke]

Minato cannot do anything to naruto.

Naruto can tank all of Minato's jutsu's and has the speed to stand a chance against FTG.

20 + KCM clones and 5 BM clones solo Minato mid diff.

Naruto has not made more than 12 KCM clones. I agree, BM Naruto is much superior. All his clones can be used for KCM or BM. He outclasses Minato here by a thousand miles. But of course, Minato can always teleport to his mom's basement like he always does.

 

[iRefleX]

Minato is still stronger lol.

remember he has FTG + Bijuu mode.

Also Kishi hasn't even given Minato's bijuu any chance yet...

srsly hate that

Also lol at people saying naruto can keep up with Minato. No he can't...Minato would destroy him cause of FTG...

Kishi is trolling Minato hard right now...

Minato > Naruto as of now...

 

[Minator93]

BM Minato > BSM Naruto > Km Minato > Km Naruto > Base Minato > Sage Naruto > Base Naruto

 

[xxSAGExx]

I mean the only thing Minato lacks compared to Naruto is sage mode. Other than that, Minato has a ton of jutsu, including many kinds of sealing, you name it plus that he has the bijju mode. So I think Kishi must do sth about Naruto's arsenal especially sealing jutsu

Naruto surpassed Minato when he got SM in terms of power and certain skills (being able to master SM, acquired a better sensing ability and surpassing Rasegan with Resenshuriken). BM Naruto also surpassed Minato and Kushina at handing chakra to others, both in quantity and quality (he can modify the chakra to fit each person). With SM, it was unknown that Minato had Yin Kurama as his power cause he died soon after so he was compared to base Minato. BM Minato >BM Naruto but BSM Naruto >BM Minato only in terms of Power so far.

BSM speed should be extremely fast but Naruto didn't master his speed as of yet and only used it 3x since getting KM. Minato can still beat Naruto tho because of his smarts also he was the one who created the key that Naruto uses to cage Kurama so nothing stopping him from closing the seal if they were enemies.

I do think Naruto should have the Uzumaki sealing jutsus just so it can carry on but Naruto need more wind jutsu (non-rasengan base), and a 2nd element as well.