[Discussion] Mihawk>Shanks?

[24 12 11 to troll]

-Skill with sword: Mihawk > Shanks
-Speed: Shanks stopped Akainu before his ship arrived, so he has some crazy speed. Shank > Mihawk IMO
-Strenght: Mihawk plits a tsunami, Shanks plits the sky (and yes I know WB was also involved). Shanks >Mihawk IMO
-Haki: from feats it is easily Shanks > Mihawk, but Mihawk will probably have great Haki too, we just dont know.
-Stamina: We have no clue, but both of them will probably have INSANE stamina and durability.

Thats why I think Shanks > Mihawk.

You say that and completely ignore Mihawks feats. Shanks input some effort and it took the combined work of both Newgate and Shanks to split the sky. Mihawk performed his feat on his own. Neg diff speed blitzing G2 Luffy is a very impressive feat. And actually Shanks stopped Akainu at the same time as his ship arrived ; he clearly jumped off , he didn't run several miles or whatever you seem to be implying.

 

[Kuzan]

You say that and completely ignore Mihawks feats. Shanks input some effort and it took the combined work of both Newgate and Shanks to split the sky. Mihawk performed his feat on his own. Neg diff speed blitzing G2 Luffy is a very impressive feat. And actually Shanks stopped Akainu at the same time as his ship arrived ; he clearly jumped off , he didn't run several miles or whatever you seem to be implying.

Speed blitzing G2 is not easy, but for people at their level it is not that hard. Jimbei did it in Impeldown. You can clearly see Shanks stopping Akainu's fist before the ships at the shore. I dont think he walked on water but he might have just jumped very far and then speed blitz everyone at Marineford, since no one noticed him arriving. They only noticed him after he blocked Akainu. Speed blitzing everyone at Marineford > speed blitzing G2 Luffy.

I dont deny Mihawk of his feats, but I think Shanks' feats are greater.

 

[Fireplay]

I know that good sir. I mean that when Luffy surpasses Shanks , Zoro will still be inferior as he being the second strongest SH would just surpass the second strongest RH regardless of whether he cares or not : it's true. Luffy doesn't need to surpass Roger ; but he will definitely be God tier EOS as it has been foreshadowed since the very beginning of the series. For Luffy to stand as Pirate King he needs to be above his fellow Yonkou. Like Roger was above Shiki etc. It's different from a Hokage as running a village is very different from fighting off everyone in order to maintain a title.


Their titles are their greatest feats. Aside that: cutting a tsunami in two ; casually with no effort and stopping a war through fear are their greatest feats.


Because he knew he would win. If Shanks had two arms I would agree that Shanks is stronger, but he's only got one.


Then why does Zoro lift? GG


He speed blitzed G2 Luffy without any effort at MF. Of course it matters. GG


If Mihawk had no Haki he would be screwed in the NW. He doesn't have an OP fruit so he would be destroyed. Haki is a supplement to every single fighting style. Zoro uses Haki. Why? How? He puts his Haki into his sword. Mihawk would do the same , who taught Zoro Haki during the two year timeskip? GG


Without stamina you cannot fight for extensive periods of time. Of course it matters.


It does have something to do with this. One of Zoro's main strengths is his durability and ability to tank most things. Mihawk is probably too strong to even get hit by attacks of such caliber unless they're dealt by somebody of his own league. Even so... he would be screwed if he wasn't durable and would not be where he is today. GG


-Skill with a sword: Mihawk > Shanks
-Speed: Mihawk = Shanks
-Strength: No Idea but since Mihawk easily has the striking force to split a tsunami in two with neg diff Mihawk > Shanks
-Haki: Mihawk = Shanks at Busoshoku and Kenbushoku. Shanks only has superior Haki due to his posession of Haoshoku Haki , so basically overall in terms of Haki: Shanks > Mihawk , I will give him that. However this is only because of Haoshoku Haki.
-Stamina and Durability: Neither have feats for this.


He will equal them.

Lulz. So Mihawk being the most skilled with the sword means that his

Physical strength
Durability
Stamina
Haki
Speed

All are superior to Shanks'?

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And Zoro is not Mihawk. From what we know, Mihawk doesn't lift. GG.

Luffy will surpass Roger and Whitebeard btw.

Shanks lost an arm and showed no signs of pain. That's a feat right there.

The WGS can't handle Shanks' pace

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Walls of text do not interest me. Kuzan hasn't proven anything so far. You need to learn the difference between a plausible explanation and pointing out random things which can easily be countered and dispelled.
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It's okay son, we all know the only reason you've yet to quote me is 'cause you simply have no way of replying to destroy the falsehood that you've been spamming which indicates Mihawk>Shanks 'cause he's the WSS.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Speed blitzing G2 is not easy, but for people at their level it is not that hard. Jimbei did it in Impeldown. You can clearly see Shanks stopping Akainu's fist before the ships at the shore. I dont think he walked on water but he might have just jumped very far and then speed blitz everyone at Marineford, since no one noticed him arriving. They only noticed him after he blocked Akainu. Speed blitzing everyone at Marineford > speed blitzing G2 Luffy.

I dont deny Mihawk of his feats, but I think Shanks' feats are greater.

Mihawk speed blitzed with minimum effort. That is the feat. Others are faster than Luffy but have to actually try in order to speed blitz him. I did say I think Shanks jumped off of his ship and showed similar speed to Mihawk.

Lulz. So Mihawk being the most skilled with the sword means that his

Physical strength
Durability
Stamina
Haki
Speed

All are superior to Shanks'?

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And Zoro is not Mihawk. From what we know, Mihawk doesn't lift. GG.

Luffy will surpass Roger and Whitebeard btw.

Shanks lost an arm and showed no signs of pain. That's a feat right there.

The WGS can't handle Shanks' pace

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Mihawk and Shanks are equal in every aspect except:
Mihawk outranks Shanks in skill
Shanks outranks Mihawk in Haki (only because he has Haoshoku Haki)

It's not a feat to "show no signs of pain" , are you an idiot? Of course it hurts to lose an arm.

It's okay son, we all know the only reason you've yet to quote me is 'cause you simply have no way of replying to destroy the falsehood that you've been spamming which indicates Mihawk>Shanks 'cause he's the WSS.

This means war!

Mihawk>Shanks

 

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Fvck this, I'm also going full-retard!!


By EoS Zoro will become the WSS. Meaning he's > any person ever using a sword. Meaning he'll be > Luffy because Luffy used a sword against Arlong meaning he's a swordsman meaning @EoS Zoro > Luffy because behind closed doors Luffy uses a sword(as evident in Nightmare-mode).

My logic = irrefutable #IAmTheSickestKunt

 

[Bogard]

Mihawks feats are greater.

1- Cuting the iceberg in marineford was actually much more impressive than splitting sky. It may looked cooler, but air is not nearly as dense as ice, so it's something that requires less power than what Mihawk did(cuting iceberg kilometers long with a casual swing). Not even mentioning the fact he didn't even do it alone since it was a clash with WB's bisento and WB wasn't using his full power(he didn't even use his DF power)

2- Stopping Akainu is great for you? May i remind you the punch was aimed at Coby? Someone who is clearly below him. To kill someone like him an Admiral only needs a fraction of his power. Also Akainu was weakened from his fight against Whitebeard. This attack was not on the higher end of Sakazuki´s possibilities. Shanks blocking it is not impressive.

The only really impressive feat we've got with Shanks so far is his Color of Conqueror Haki, that's all

 

[Fireplay]

Mihawk and Shanks are equal in every aspect except:

Anything to back this? GG

Mihawk outranks Shanks in skill

This i agree with

Shanks outranks Mihawk in Haki (only because he has Haoshoku Haki)

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It's not a feat to "show no signs of pain" , are you an idiot? Of course it hurts to lose an arm.

This makes no sense. So your pretty much saying that showing no signs of pain isn't a feat? Yes it is. That just means he can handle the pain. Your pretty much saying that every tanking feat we've seen isn't a feat.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Fvck this, I'm also going full-retard!!


By EoS Zoro will become the WSS. Meaning he's > any person ever using a sword. Meaning he'll be > Luffy because Luffy used a sword against Arlong meaning he's a swordsman meaning @EoS Zoro > Luffy because behind closed doors Luffy uses a sword(as evident in Nightmare-mode).

My logic = irrefutable #IAmTheSickestKunt

LOOOOL!
Lucy was classified as a swordsman. Luffy is undercover and randomly grabbed swords as Lucy. Nightmare Luffy borrowed others powers. Nuff said bro.

 

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Mihawks feats are greater.

1- Cuting the iceberg in marineford was actually much more impressive than splitting sky. It may looked cooler, but air is not nearly as dense as ice, so it's something that requires less power than what Mihawk did(cuting iceberg kilometers long with a casual swing). Not even mentioning the fact he didn't even do it alone since it was a clash with WB's bisento and WB wasn't using his full power(he didn't even use his DF power)

2- Stopping Akainu is great for you? May i remind you the punch was aimed at Coby? Someone who is clearly below him. To kill someone like him an Admiral only needs a fraction of his power. Also Akainu was weakened from his fight against Whitebeard. This attack was not on the higher end of Sakazuki´s possibilities. Shanks blocking it is not impressive.

The only really impressive feat we've got with Shanks so far is his Color of Conqueror Haki, that's all

Yeah man, 'cause that statement holds meaning to this debate since Shanks & Mihawk have both had the same panel time.

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LOOOOL!
Lucy was classified as a swordsman. Luffy is undercover and randomly grabbed swords as Lucy. Nightmare Luffy borrowed others powers. Nuff said bro.

Means nothing, 'cause your logic dictates: you use a sword, you're a swordsman - nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Bogard]

Yeah man, 'cause that statement holds meaning to this debate since Shanks & Mihawk have both had the same panel time.

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Yeah because posters above aren't comparing feats now

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[ziggyZ]

If Mihawk had no Haki he would be screwed in the NW. He doesn't have an OP fruit so he would be destroyed. Haki is a supplement to every single fighting style. Zoro uses Haki. Why? How? He puts his Haki into his sword. Mihawk would do the same , who taught Zoro Haki during the two year timeskip? GG

So someone taught Law how to use it? Someone taught Rayleigh how to use it? Someone taught the founder of Haki how to use it?

 

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Yeah because posters above aren't comparing feats now

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Yeah man, 'cause that's why I haven't been saying that this match-up is built off a foundation of hype?

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[Kuzan]

Mihawks feats are greater.

1- Cuting the iceberg in marineford was actually much more impressive than splitting sky. It may looked cooler, but air is not nearly as dense as ice, so it's something that requires less power than what Mihawk did(cuting iceberg kilometers long with a casual swing). Not even mentioning the fact he didn't even do it alone since it was a clash with WB's bisento and WB wasn't using his full power(he didn't even use his DF power)

2- Stopping Akainu is great for you? May i remind you the punch was aimed at Coby? Someone who is clearly below him. To kill someone like him an Admiral only needs a fraction of his power. Also Akainu was weakened from his fight against Whitebeard. This attack was not on the higher end of Sakazuki´s possibilities. Shanks blocking it is not impressive.

The only really impressive feat we've got with Shanks so far is his Color of Conqueror Haki, that's all

Cutting ice is harder than air, I give you that. The difference is that Mihawk's sword was actually aimed at the ice. Shanks split the sky while aiming at Whitebeard, so his was plitting feat was not the result of an attack aimed at the air. Rather, it was just a side effect from his clash.

Him stopping Akainu is not an impressive feat. Speed blitzing everybody at Marineford, while there are so many Haki users is an incredibly impressive feat.

 

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Mihawks feats are greater.

1- Cuting the iceberg in marineford was actually much more impressive than splitting sky. It may looked cooler, but air is not nearly as dense as ice, so it's something that requires less power than what Mihawk did(cuting iceberg kilometers long with a casual swing). Not even mentioning the fact he didn't even do it alone since it was a clash with WB's bisento and WB wasn't using his full power(he didn't even use his DF power)

2- Stopping Akainu is great for you? May i remind you the punch was aimed at Coby? Someone who is clearly below him. To kill someone like him an Admiral only needs a fraction of his power. Also Akainu was weakened from his fight against Whitebeard. This attack was not on the higher end of Sakazuki´s possibilities. Shanks blocking it is not impressive.

The only really impressive feat we've got with Shanks so far is his Color of Conqueror Haki, that's all

Do you want me get a sword and an ice-block and then try putting that shit through the other shit? 'Cause I will. And after that, I'll get a sword and swing in the air to create a ripple in the sky. So we can finally deduce, what the fvck is harder?

 

[Kuzan]

Do you want me get a sword and an ice-block and then try putting that shit through the other shit? 'Cause I will. And after that, I'll get a sword and swing in the air to create a ripple in the sky. So we can finally deduce, what the fvck is harder?

Hahaha lol, so true

 

[LitzSabr]

Do you want me get a sword and an ice-block and then try putting that shit through the other shit? 'Cause I will. And after that, I'll get a sword and swing in the air to create a ripple in the sky. So we can finally deduce, what the fvck is harder?

That wasn't totally done by Shanks. First they nearly clashed at full power, second WB had his half too. In Mihawk's case, he wasn't even trying.

 

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That wasn't totally done by Shanks. First they nearly clashed at full power, second WB had his half too. In Mihawk's case, he wasn't even trying.

So Shanks was trying eh? So Shanks had the intent to end WB with one-hit? He went in - bloodlusted and full of mass killing-intent - ready to head the 'New Era'?

Damn, never knew he wanted to cut WB in half with such a half-assed strike.

 

[LitzSabr]

So Shanks was trying eh? So Shanks had the intent to end WB with one-hit? He went in - bloodlusted and full of mass killing-intent - ready to head the 'New Era'?

Damn, never knew he wanted to cut WB in half with such a half-assed strike.

:|:|:| I was talking about the Iceberg feat.