[Discussion] Mihawk>Shanks?

[LitzSabr]

What proof do you have that he knew Jozu was going to come and block it?

I never said that, I was just saying that even Croc. was able to stop him. (Not saying either one of them is stronger but yeah)
There's already enough evidence in the manga that shows Shanks>Mihawk.
-Shanks went against WB and he was actually trying. (Mihawk got a nice smile/laugh from WB when he tried doing it)
-Shanks and WB's clash caused the sky to split it half. BB needed the Gura Gura no mi just to pull off that feat. (Shanks/WB weren't even trying too)
-Shanks is Luffy's rival and he even said he wants to beat him and HIS crew one day and in order to do that he must become PK. Zoro wants to surpass Mihawk and Mihawk even told Luffy that becoming PK is much harder than becoming WSS. Basically, Luffy's Goals > Zoro's Goals
-Shanks was the first to shows sign of King's haki being used to destroy surrounding environments. Mihawk didn't even show signs of use caliber.
-During the war BB did not give a f*ck who he was fighting. He was even cocky enough to go against Sengoku and Garp but once Shanks showed up he backed off. (Yeah I know it's his crew too but obv. BB would fight Shanks individually where the rest of his crew would fight the other members)

Not to mention any more evidence supporting Shanks > Mihawk. Sorry buddy but get that Mihawk d1ldo out your ass.

First @ Bold, doesn't both sentences contradict each other?
-Mihawk was interrupted when he attacked WB. That doesn't prove anything b/w Mihawk, WB and Shanks. If we are talking about smiles, WB belittled Shanks alot too when he came to meet him.
-WAT?
-Luffy won't become the PK just by beating Shank's crew. There are other many other people too and that is what makes Luffy's goal more harder than Zoro's. So how does this put Shanks over Mihawk when Shanks isn't the final thing before becoming the PK.
-That thing indicates that Shanks' is strong but it doesn't put him over Mihawk.
-There were many other circumstances, it wasn't only Shanks crew. There were Marines too. BB would've gotten raped. And Garp would've soloed BB too if their fight had continued. U_U

 

[Hexuze]

First @ Bold, doesn't both sentences contradict each other?
-Mihawk was interrupted when he attacked WB. That doesn't prove anything b/w Mihawk, WB and Shanks. If we are talking about smiles, WB belittled Shanks alot too when he came to meet him.
-WAT?
-Luffy won't become the PK just by beating Shank's crew. There are other many other people too and that is what makes Luffy's goal more harder than Zoro's. So how does this put Shanks over Mihawk when Shanks isn't the final thing before becoming the PK.
-That thing indicates that Shanks' is strong but it doesn't put him over Mihawk.
-There were many other circumstances, it wasn't only Shanks crew. There were Marines too. BB would've gotten raped. And Garp would've soloed BB too if their fight had continued. U_U

What about the bold? How are they contradictions?
-Well yeah it does. Mihawk is unable to fight as his level. It's just Oda's way of showing the gap between the two.
-?
-You're right but ideally that's the crew he has to surpass for now. Shanks's crew is the strongest atm unless proven otherwise. The only other crew that I could potentially see getting in his way would be BB's since he posses the same goals as Luffy.
-Yeah so, we never Mihawk would anything with King's haki.
-Yeah but BB was scared of Shanks even possessing two of the strongest DF. That's saying something.

Seriously, provide me points on why you think Mihawk is stronger than Shanks. (Other than the fact that he's the WSS) Titles are proven to be kind of useless, look at WB. He clearly wasn't the strongest man in the world at the time of the war. No assumptions either like, "he has better haki." Something that Rin. likes saying. Also, Shanks is more of haki user than a swordsman. If he was a swordsman, he would of obviously upgraded his sword to the power ones like Mihawk. (There's like 12 "special" swords or something right?)

 

[Mephew D Kensei]

question @Yomomma and anyone who cares. regarding haki, can it b a core fighting ability or is it at best a compliment or suppliment ability only. My thots- Shanky is a haki based combatant who suppliments his fighting style with a sword for better reach and maybe divesity(basically the advantages u get when u pick weopon) and i dont think he has hakairyoku but he's >Mihawk coz of his haki base.

 

[LitzSabr]

What about the bold? How are they contradictions?
-Well yeah it does. Mihawk is unable to fight as his level. It's just Oda's way of showing the gap between the two.
-?
-You're right but ideally that's the crew he has to surpass for now. Shanks's crew is the strongest atm unless proven otherwise. The only other crew that I could potentially see getting in his way would be BB's since he posses the same goals as Luffy.
-Yeah so, we never Mihawk would anything with King's haki.
-Yeah but BB was scared of Shanks even possessing two of the strongest DF. That's saying something.

Seriously, provide me points on why you think Mihawk is stronger than Shanks. (Other than the fact that he's the WSS) Titles are proven to be kind of useless, look at WB. He clearly wasn't the strongest man in the world at the time of the war. No assumptions either like, "he has better haki." Something that Rin. likes saying. Also, Shanks is more of haki user than a swordsman. If he was a swordsman, he would of obviously upgraded his sword to the power ones like Mihawk. (There's like 12 "special" swords or something right?)

-No it doesn't. Remember we have seen Crocodile interrupt Akainu, does that make Akainu any weak or anything of the sort, no!. Same in the case of Mihawk.
-You can't say that Shanks' crew is the strongest right now when it's not proven that it is neither that some other crew is.
- Yeah so, we never Mihawk would anything with King's haki. <--I don't get what you are saying.
-BB left the war because Shanks' entered because he then got too many people to handle. But he wasn't scared of Shanks or anyone that much is very clear. He even made fun of Shanks and then left laughing. He was weaker than Shanks but wasn't intimidated from him just like he wasn't from Garp or Sengoku.

You are asking for other reasons but the truth is aside from them being rivals and the title thing, there isn't much to talk about.. Since the other feats Aren't comparable. We never saw Mihawk in the same conditions as Shanks. But the comparable things right now are in Mihawk's favor's.
WB was called the strongest man in the world (he was known as the world's strongest man like the WSS, it's more like a fact). Also WB was indeed the strongest man at the war individually, it was clear even w/o his title.
Also, We can't speculate anything about Shanks' sword as of now because as we don't know what it is. He uses it all the time, it has to be one of the renowned blade.

 

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question @Yomomma and anyone who cares. regarding haki, can it b a core fighting ability or is it at best a compliment or suppliment ability only. My thots- Shanky is a haki based combatant who suppliments his fighting style with a sword for better reach and maybe divesity(basically the advantages u get when u pick weopon) and i dont think he has hakairyoku but he's >Mihawk coz of his haki base.

Haki is a complement AND suppliment to ones fighting. We can't estimate the strength of eithers Haki (as of yet). So you're just making an assumption without giving legitimate evidence. Much like Yo Momma San whom I've just given up on ; this debate is going nowhere.

 

[SSS12]

This thread. :leaf: