Zabuza vs Chiyo

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Location: Where Chiyo fought Sasori

Knowledge: Zabuza knows Chiyo is a master puppeteer and Chiyo knows that Zabuza is a master at Silent Killing (basically manga knowledge).

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Zabuza takes this. Chiyo's three jewels suction technique will be useless because it spits whatever it sucks back out so the mist will still be on the battlefield.

Chiyo definitely won't start with her 10 puppets because she didn't even start with them against Sasori, an even stronger opponent. She also mentioned how she forbidded herself to use those puppets, she basically never wants to use them.

I see Chiyo trying to defend herself with the mom and dad puppets, sort of like a Manji formation; however, Zabuza has shown to get around these formations easily in part 1:
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and even when he was an edo against more advanced ninja
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And this was after Kakashi ordered the whole division to get into a Manji Formation:
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If Zabuza can get through Chuunins with no diff, then he can definitely get through puppets who don't even have the sensing abilities and reactions of an actual real ninja.


Even if the puppets can defend, when Chiyo summons the puppets, with Zabuza's knowledge on her and hearing the puppets, he will send in Water Clones first. So, if Chiyo reacts to move the puppets, which is very unlikely because Kakashi with 3 tomoe could barely react:
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So Chiyo, having way lower reaction speed than Kakashi definitely won't be able to keep up. When the clones are sent in, if Chiyo manages to destroy them, he will know that Silent Killing won't work.

When Zabuza's Silent Killing doesn't work, that's when he starts using his large scale Suiton. When Chiyo is on the defense with her puppets at her side blinded in the mist, Zabuza can send in Water Clones to throw her off guard to hit her with this:
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Giant Vortex Jutsu will destroy the puppets and leave Chiyo paralyzed and open for Zabuza to lay the finishing move. GVJ is so strong that it even took out Zabuza himself:
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And this is the Demon who could withstand a dozen swords impaled deeply into his body, and still charge full force at hundreds of thugs, get through them, and decapitate the boss.

The technique left Zabuza paralyzed and he needed a whole week to recover. Once Chiyo is hit with it, Zabuza decapitates her or catches her in a Water Prison.

Mist+Silent Killing+Kubikiribocho+Water Clones+excellent skill in CQC+Giant Vortex Jutsu all at the same time=dead Chiyo.

I know Chiyo has the experience gap and is overall stronger, but Zabuza just seems to be a bad match up for her honestly.
 
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So you created a VS thread, yet you are so biased that you won't let others have their own opinion?

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Chiyo wins.
Lol why would I listen to summon who didn't even counter my argument? If u can't counter all my points, then I won't consider Chiyo winning
 

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Red Scorpian has admitted that Zabuza wins on my VMs.

Guys give my man Zabuza a chance on this fight. Like honestly read the thread and ull see my points, unless your handicapped
 

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Chiyo destroys while this dog laughs (well this could also be a fox, I'm not real sure).

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Knowledge: Zabuza knows Chiyo is a master puppeteer and Chiyo knows that Zabuza is a master at Silent Killing (basically manga knowledge).
This is all chiyo need lol. Zabuza try to created his mist by Put his hand up and he is basically give the opponenet chance to kill him right there.
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As we see the mist took time to get thicker. Chiyo can finish of zabuza before even the mist is on. with the kunai jutsu.
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and Zabuza GG
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Chiyo is a legendary puppet master from the Sand village. Zabuza is a mid-low jonin level ninja from the mist who had trouble against fodder pt. 1 naruto and sasuke. Zabuza is not a bad ninja but Chiyo is on a whole other level than Zabuza.
 

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Chiyo is a legendary puppet master from the Sand village. Zabuza is a mid-low jonin level ninja from the mist who had trouble against fodder pt. 1 naruto and sasuke. Zabuza is not a bad ninja but Chiyo is on a whole other level than Zabuza.
he is high jounin level basically at kakashi's level he could have killed him when he got himself caught even though he lost in the first battle doesn't mean he's a fodder, he tried to assassinate the mitzukage and got away without dying that speaks for itself. very few people can counter the hidden mist jutsu and he was it's greatest user of it and his silent killing which few could react too kakashi couldn't have countered it without his sharingan despite him being a great ninja. few people can defend and thus they die, maybe shane is a huge zabuza fanboy but he's onlhy given valid points and i've yet to see anyone counter those points with logic.
 

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Lol People claiming that Chiyo definitely wins when they didn't even counter the OP. :rolleyes:

OT: Zabuza wins most likely.
This AkatsukiChurch guy....I love this guy


This is all chiyo need lol. Zabuza try to created his mist by Put his hand up and he is basically give the opponenet chance to kill him right there.
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As we see the mist took time to get thicker. Chiyo can finish of zabuza before even the mist is on. with the kunai jutsu.
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and Zabuza GG
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Honestly I don't know how u made that scan thing but it was sick af dude. Like it looked awesome not gonna lie.

Anyways, that's a horrible counter. It's funny how you think Zabuza will get blitzed by a C-rank kunai technique. Zabuza's capable of activating the mist with just 1 hand:
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Because Zabuza can use 1 hand to make the mist, he has another hand to defend. This gives him multiple options to do here: 1. Throw shuriken to cancel out the kunai. 2. Make a Water Clone to take the hit. 3. Go in the water. 4. Run while using the tech.

But what he can do doesn't even matter because as I showed in the scans above, Zabuza got the mist up in a second and disappeared significantly fast. Chiyo will not interrupt him from putting up the mist. Also, if you look at the scans above, Zabuza put up the mist in front of Kakashi when he was only 5 feet away from him. If he can put it up that close to Kakashi who has the same speed, yet better reflexes than Chiyo, then it isn't debatable that he could put it up against Chiyo. Zabuza even put up the mist in front of 10,000+ ninja when he was an edo. Guy and Lee were included in this group, and they couldn't even stop Zabuza from putting it up, and they are leagues above speed compared to Chiyo.

Zabuza takes her out with Giant Vortex Jutsu hidden in the mist while using clone feints. Zabuza wins high diff

Chiyo is a legendary puppet master from the Sand village. Zabuza is a mid-low jonin level ninja from the mist who had trouble against fodder pt. 1 naruto and sasuke. Zabuza is not a bad ninja but Chiyo is on a whole other level than Zabuza.
No she isn't lol. You should look at my tier list, which many people said that it was one of the best they've seen.

Zabuza is high jounin at least, calling him low jounin proves to me you underrate him. Also Zabuza didn't have a hard time against pt. 1 Naruto and Sasuke, he had a hard time with Kakashi.
 
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Honestly I don't know how u made that scan thing but it was sick af dude. Like it looked awesome not gonna lie.

Anyways, that's a horrible counter. Zabuza's capable of activating the mist with just 1 hand:
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Because Zabuza can use 1 hand to make the mist, he has another hand to defend. This gives him multiple options to do here: 1. Throw shuriken to cancel out the kunai. 2. Make a Water Clone to take the hit. 3. Go in the water. 4. Run while using the tech.

But what he can do doesn't even matter because as I showed in the scans above, Zabuza got the mist up in a second and disappeared significantly fast. Chiyo will not interrupt him from putting up the mist. Also, if you look at the scans above, Zabuza put up the mist in front of Kakashi when he was only 5 feet away from him. If he can put it up that close to Kakashi who has the same speed, yet better reflexes than Chiyo, then it isn't debatable that he can't put it up against Chiyo. Zabuza even put up the mist in front of 10,000+ ninja when he was an edo. Guy and Lee were included in this group, and they couldn't even stop Zabuza from putting it up, and they are leagues above speed compared to Chiyo.

Zabuza takes her out with Giant Vortex Jutsu hidden in the mist while using clone feints. Zabuza wins high diff



No she isn't lol. You should look at my tier list, which many people said that it was one of the best they've seen.

Zabuza is high jounin at least, calling him low jounin proves to me you underrate him. Also Zabuza didn't have a hard time against pt. 1 Naruto and Sasuke, he had a hard time with Kakashi.
Thanks, but if he try to block it with his blade chiyo can attach chakra string to zabuza just like he did to sasori and sakura. And never see zabuza use shuriken before, and he don't have tham. And the thing about the mist is nobody attack him while he doing the mist jutsu that why. But chiyo would. After chakra string attach to zabuza, chiyo can control him, ofcourse zabuza going to resist it but chiyo can finish him while zabuza movement slow down, not just that the votex jutsu have alot of hand sing. and in the mist even sakura can see zabuza and react to it. even if zabuza got behind chiyo and try to cut her she could just use chakra sheild on her arm to protect her(not mother and father). And while close rage fighting chiyo even could also put chakra string in to zabuza.
 

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Thanks, but if he try to block it with his blade chiyo can attach chakra string to zabuza just like he did to sasori and sakura. And never see zabuza use shuriken before, and he don't have tham. And the thing about the mist is nobody attack him while he doing the mist jutsu that why. But chiyo would. After chakra string attach to zabuza, chiyo can control him, ofcourse zabuza going to resist it but chiyo can finish him while zabuza movement slow down, not just that the votex jutsu have alot of hand sing. and in the mist even sakura can see zabuza and react to it. even if zabuza got behind chiyo and try to cut her she could just use chakra sheild on her arm to protect her(not mother and father). And while close rage fighting chiyo even could also put chakra string in to zabuza.
Dude your arguments are weak.

Never seen Zabuza use shuriken? Claiming Zabuza doesn't even have shuriken?
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As you can clearly see, Zabuza uses Shuriken often. Also, in the bottom right corner of the second scan, Haku intercepts Zabuza's shuriken with his own. Zabuza has taught Haku everything he knows, meaning they have similar fighting styles, thus Zabuza would more than likely react the same way with Chiyo and intercept her kunai with his shuriken.

So now your whole point about chakra strings is countered.

Chiyo can't even sense in the mist so she will be on the defense where as Zabuza can do whatever he wants in the mist. He has all the time in the world to use his Giant Vortex Jutsu. Also, he has 4/5 for hand seals, the second highest in the Akatsuki, right behind Itachi. His hand seal speed is so fast that he blitzed Kakashi with a Water Prison which consists of 8 seals. Saying Zabuza will not having time to use his GVJ is ignorant.

Sakura reacting to Zabuza in part 1 was all plot. Zabuza appeared behind her 10 feet away just to give Kakashi the time to intercept him because the main characters can't die. Zabuza appeared right behind Kakashi in their first battle and appeared right behind Special Jounin and Chuunin in part 2, and Special Jounin and Chuunin definitely have way better reactions than useless, fodder Part 1 Sakura.

As I already said, it's a possibility his Silent Killing won't work, which is why he uses clone feints to keep her busy while he uses GVJ.

Chiyo isn't countering Hidden Mist+Silent Killing+Water Clones+Kubikiribocho+Great skill in CQC+Giant Vortex Jutsu all at the same time. It just isn't happening.
 
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