Why is DSM Kabuto so weak?

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He was weak so he had to steal multi ninja skillsets

to be noticed
 

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Honestly, it feels like some people don't even know how Izanami works, yet still say Izanami GG
 

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He was weak so he had to steal multi ninja skillsets

to be noticed

well not everyone has the luxury of being born with power and letting their kekkei genkai do all the work for them
 

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Didnt read, title pissed me off already.
Physical and mental strength dont take away from the fact that hes a damn beast.
 

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DSM Kabuto was not really weak; it is his own doing that became his weakness.
Orochimaru, being as Sannin, did not accept Kabuto as his student.
Whereas, the other 2 Sannin had accepted and taught their student well.
Even when Sasuke revived Orochimaru, Orochimaru could not bother about Kabuto.
Recent chapters, Orochimaru said that he had not yet teach Sasuke fully.
 

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yeah, he activated Izanami, but Izanami didn't cast genjutsu until later because it needed to go through a process first

Itachi says he activated Izanami the "first time Kabuto stabbed me" meaning that Sasuke witnessed the second time Itachi got stabbed; otherwise Itachi would have just said, "the time Kabuto stabbed me" and not the "first time"

also Itachi lost his sight the second time he got stabbed, because the rotation was complete. Izanami first activates and records, then it casts genjutsu

so everything up to the second time Itachi was stabbed was real-time

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When itachi clashed with kabuto and told Sasuke the technique that chooses ones destiny, that was when the sequence ended.

The chapter even said inzanami release meaning that is the loop, if you look back in between those moments itachi was not touched once
 

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People need to read what happened, I've already made four post about everything that happened.

Really? Then you know Izanami truly activated after the second time Itachi was stabbed.
 

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Just cuz he couldn't take down the The Solo King doesn't mean he can't do the same to others.
 

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Really? Then you know Izanami truly activated after the second time Itachi was stabbed.

I don't like this assumption here

Okay, because I don't have access to a computer right now I'll just tell you this:

Itachi said he activated the sequence of inzanami the first time he got stabbed right?

Then it turned out to be a crow genjustu <-----oh wait derp, kabuto sealed his vision from such technique.....think about it

After that he clashed with kabuto and said inzanami
^^chapter said inzanami released

If you look at the loop event, it started from the beginning.

Which was itachi clashing with kabuto saying inzanami.

The loop repeated itself when itachi cut the horn, what does that tell you that the Justu started.

From the beginning....when he first stabbed him and use his crow tech to cut his horn :|
 

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I don't like this assumption here

Okay, because I don't have access to a computer right now I'll just tell you this:

Itachi said he activated the sequence of inzanami the first time he got stabbed right?

Then it turned out to be a crow genjustu <-----oh wait derp, kabuto sealed his vision from such technique.....think about it

After that he clashed with kabuto and said inzanami
^^chapter said inzanami released

If you look at the loop event, it started from the beginning.

Which was itachi clashing with kabuto saying inzanami.

The loop repeated itself when itachi cut the horn, what does that tell you that the Justu started.

From the beginning....when he first stabbed him and use his crow tech to cut his horn :|

That was a Crow Clone, not Genjutsu.

So if it was Izanami and Kabuto was trapped from the beginning, why did Itachi's eye go blind after he got stabbed the second time like it activated?

To work, Izanami must record sequences. Those sequences must be connected, looped, by performing them again. Only after you form your loop will Izanami begin. That is evidenced when Itachi goes blind.
 

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That was a Crow Clone, not Genjutsu.

So if it was Izanami and Kabuto was trapped from the beginning, why did Itachi's eye go blind after he got stabbed the second time like it activated?

To work, Izanami must record sequences. Those sequences must be connected, looped, by performing them again. Only after you form your loop will Izanami begin. That is evidenced when Itachi goes blind.



The sequence was when he got stabbed up into the part him and kabuto clash, which the technique was activated.

^^you don't activate the technique until you achieve the sensation/ a chosen sequence


Itachi lost his sight when the technique repeated/rewind itself.

Otherwise itachi would be in the loop with one eye blind.

It's purpose is to stop inzangi, if inzanami didn't work like this then the technique would be in vain.
 

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Meh. :I DSM ruined Kabuto as a character to tell the truth. He was sorta weak before it but atleast he was something.
 

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When itachi clashed with kabuto and told Sasuke the technique that chooses ones destiny, that was when the sequence ended.

The chapter even said inzanami release meaning that is the loop, if you look back in between those moments itachi was not touched once

yeah, Izanami took effect on the chapter "Izanami Released" as you said......and before that, Itachi got hit 3 times legit by Kabuto

The loop recording started when Itachi first got stabbed and finished the second time he got stabbed, which is why his eye went blind the second time as shown in the scan I previously posted

then the genjutsu took effect on Kabuto
 

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yeah, Izanami took effect on the chapter "Izanami Released" as you said......and before that, Itachi got hit 3 times legit by Kabuto

The loop recording started when Itachi first got stabbed and finished the second time he got stabbed, which is why his eye went blind the second time as shown in the scan I previously posted

then the genjutsu took effect on Kabuto

Where does it say that itachi's Justu ended when he was blind?

If that was true, the loop would include kabuto using the Katsuya flute on itachi

And slicing him in half, over and over again. <----that didn't happen :|
 

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Where does it say that itachi's Justu ended when he was blind?

If that was true, the loop would include kabuto using the Katsuya flute on itachi

And slicing him in half, over and over again. <----that didn't happen :|

It didn't happen because Itachi didn't recreate those occurrences. If Kabuto were in the loop from the beginning, then he never would have activated Sound 4's powers or Muki Tensei or anything because he was already trapped in a loop.
Are you saying that Itachi's eye going blind meant absolutely nothing?
 

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Where does it say that it ended when he got blind?

You saw the the repeat of the loop is when he clashed with kabuto.

Like I said, if the technique activated when itachi went blind, he would be in the loop with one blind eye
Itachi didn't get stabbed three times if there is a crow technique

No you don't get it, Itachi even explains this


This is how Izanami works

Step 1: Activation

Step 2: You pick a sequence of events Exhibit(A) and record those exact feelings and sensations of Exhibit(A)

Step 3: You must then recreate those exact feelings with the ocular jutsu......Exhibit(A') which is the start of the genjutsu

Step 4: You must connect Exhibit(A) with Exhibit(A') by doing Exhibit(B) and Exhibit(C) in real-time

Step 5: Genjutsu


So basically to summarize, you pick a specific action(Itachi getting stabbed) and record that instant......then you must recreate that instant and once you do the genjutsu starts and loops everything that happened between Exhibit(A) and Exhibit(A')

but everything that happened during the replication process like Itachi getting stabbed, getting impaled by the Sage Art, etc. was real and not genjutsu because those were between Exhibits(B) and (C)


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