Zabuza vs Kiba
- Thread starter ShaneEyyy
- Start date
Ok fine screw the mist. Zabuza can still locate him with sound and he can cancel out that technique with his Giant Vortex Jutsu. He can also use Water Clones to confuse Kiba's sense of smell which could give Zabuza a great opportunity to land a direct powerful Suiton on him.
I already made a counter in the thread that it doesn't matter if he could smell him or not.
Kiba is faster but I wouldn't say better reflexes. You think just because Kiba can smell out Zabuza he automatically loses. Zabuza's sense of sound is the best in history, he is the master of the Silent Kill. My argument to you is my first reply above.Nope, quite the contrary actually. Kiba has a better sense of smell then a ninja hound [You must be registered for see links]. In addition, Kiba is faster and has better reflexes then Zabuza; looks like he's losing to another "fodder" huh?
Zabuza actually destroys Kiba with his giant vortex thing
Zabuza blitzed Kakashi who had a 3 tomoe Sharingan which increases one's reflexes greatly, yet he was still caught by a Water Prison which requires 8 seals. This shows his great speed, his speed is average among the Akatsuki, all S rank ninja.
Of course I'm defending him. Kiba isn't even Jounin level, he isn't that powerful. Zabuza with his large scale Suiton techs and his experience gives him this matchup in the long run.
Red Slayer
Active member
Awards
~Puppet Master~
Active member
Zabuza still wins this, he has battle experience and monstrous Suiton on his side. Not to mention Zabuza can use clone feints too.
It required the combined efforts of PTS Naruto and Sasuke in order to move Zabuza's arm, Kiba isn't winning this.
It required the combined efforts of PTS Naruto and Sasuke in order to move Zabuza's arm, Kiba isn't winning this.
I agree, Zabuza.
Kiba can find him, sure. But due to the nature of Kiba's attacks, Water is literally the worst attribute matchup. Zabuza's impressive Water techniques will at LEAST be enough to take out Akamaru, at which point Kiba is done- though I believe he can take both relatively easily.
Kiba can find him, sure. But due to the nature of Kiba's attacks, Water is literally the worst attribute matchup. Zabuza's impressive Water techniques will at LEAST be enough to take out Akamaru, at which point Kiba is done- though I believe he can take both relatively easily.
Forbidden Technique
Active member
According to the DB alone, Kibas base speed is faster then Zabuza. That obviously doesn't include his enhanced speed; four legs technique [which doesn't just enhance speed, but also grants him with animal-like strength, reflexes, and instinct] as well as Gatsūga, and all it's variants. All of which far exceed that of Zabuzas speed. Secondly, Kibas reflexes are greater then Zabuzas for the simple fact that he is faster, as speed and reflexes go hand and hand and accommodate each other.
Now, Zabuza has no idea that Kiba can locate him within the mist with his sense of smell; and that will be his down fall. With that being said; Kibas superior speed should catch Zabuza off guard and deal an injuring blow to Zabuza with Gatsūga or Gatenga [
Now, Zabuza has no idea that Kiba can locate him within the mist with his sense of smell; and that will be his down fall. With that being said; Kibas superior speed should catch Zabuza off guard and deal an injuring blow to Zabuza with Gatsūga or Gatenga [
You must be registered for see links
]. Even if it doesn't kill Zabuza, he'll be bearing injury and it'll slow him down considerably. Mizu Bunshin do no justice as a part one Sasuke effortlessly took out like 8 of them within a split second even within the blinding mist without his sharingan activated [
You must be registered for see links
]. Kibas
You must be registered for see links
should make short work of them as well. And Zabuzas suiton is no threat. Dragon Bullet is quite easily avoided and/or nulled by using Gatsuga. The Giant Vortex is easily sliced right through via
You must be registered for see links
which acts like a buzz-saw as it effortlessly sliced the Juubi clones in half and will continue right into Zabuza.
Last edited:
The only counter I have to both of u is that I believe Zabuza's Giant Vortex Jutsu, an A-rank jutsu just like the Rasengan and Chidori, is powerful enough to withstand Kiba's 3 headed dog fang over fang or whatever it's called. The tech shouldn't be underrated, as it is actually bigger than Kiba's tech.
Kiba's dog tech isn't cutting through the vortex, the vortex has shown incredible long rang:
You must be registered for see links
And the anime actually made this tech smaller than shown in the manga just like it did with the water dragon. It's in the manga chapter 15 page 14 i think.I just believe his suiton will stop kiba and then kiba will be flooded in water and be caught in a prison.
dont also forget his huge gap in experiece, Zabuza is an elite jounin, Kiba is a chuunin, im not bringing ranks in and sying just bc zabuza is a higher rank he wins, im saying that he has a higher power level (his suiton) than kiba, which decides the ranks
NewKageism
Member
Yea the tech you seen Zabuza swim inside it. What won't stop Kiba and his dog from reforming the spin inside if zabuza could swim inside it. Doggiepattle and breast stroke anyone? If kiba dog get on top of his head[video=youtube;XPIk3fvJQ0c]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPIk3fvJQ0c[/video].
It would rip through Zabuza Vortex similar to the fashion of Gai tiger ripping through Kisame shark finally attack.
At last hitting Zabuza
It would rip through Zabuza Vortex similar to the fashion of Gai tiger ripping through Kisame shark finally attack.
At last hitting Zabuza
Curse Mark
Active member
Lmfao,
1. The longass amount of seals it takes him to perform super uber water jutsu
2. Kiba's jutsu doesn't seem smaller??
3. Using anime as a source
4. If the manga makes it look so much better than the uncannon source, why choose the latter? lol
I explained how the technique was downplayed in the anime:
You must be registered for see images
In the Manga, Zabuza does not swim within the vortex, he actually takes the full frontal attack from it and gets slammed into dozens of trees as the vortec increases its distance. Kiba is just not cutting through the technique, it's too damn big.1. Takes him 18 seals to perform GVJ... that isn't much. Sasuke noted how Zabuza performed 42 hand seals for the WG in only a matter of seconds, so performing 18 is no problem. He even has the second highest skill in hand seals in the data book, being a 4/5, right behind Itachi's 5/5. He also blitzed Kakashi with a Water Prison that required 8 seals. Zabuza's seals are great and getting the vortex up in time is no problem.
2. Kiba's jutsu looks a bit smaller
3. I provided the manga scan above
4. I showed the anime because it's a cool looking clip, even tho it doesn't look as powerful as it does in the manga; which is why I provided a manga scan above.
Saiken stomps
Member
i know kiba's weak and all, but against zabz. 
this is an insult to the demon even if Cerberus can potentially one shot
this is an insult to the demon even if Cerberus can potentially one shot