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your trolling is becoming more and more brazen every time I see you post.

Oh it's you I'm not trolling its just in my religion they say that. I didn't disrespect him. Sorry for your lose. But Genid you just don't like me. Trolling show me how. You always neg me but just know it don't matter cause rep mean nothing. Continue doing It cause I don't give two sh*ts thank you very much.
 
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I was raised in the church when I was younger, and now I've gotten to the point (now that im in college) that I don't care to go anymore. In my self teachings over the years, I have learned that religion is corrupted, or maybe I should say the church is.

I do believe in God (he's one of my hommies), but the church isn't for me. I have a different type of relationship with him then most people.

Also, to the people who don't believe in God because of science, I have come to realize that Theology and Science both support the existence of a god. If you understand certain concepts in science then it clearly can translate into GOD.
 

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Don't give me that look, the stupidity in these posts are so laughable. Does it not occur to everyone here that everything happens for a reason? We all reap what we sow in this world, and not only that, look at us as a whole, how did we even get here? How did everything come into creation in the first place? What is creation, space, time?

Life as we know it, is basically a story....HIStory.......
 

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Oh it's you I'm not trolling its just in my religion they say that. I didn't disrespect him. Sorry for your lose. But Genidama I just don't like you. Trolling show me how. You always neg me but just know it don't matter cause rep mean nothing. Continue doing It cause o do t give two sh*ts thank you very much.
You have earned my respect, tell 'em.
 

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1. Any almighty benevolent being wouldn't allow all of the suffering there is on this planet
2. I'm not burdened with thoughts of the afterlife or wondering what lies ahead beyond my life. It leaves me free to do what I need to do to spread happiness while I'm here (I find it more comforting to believe that this life isn't just a test)
3. The loss of a loved one isn't comforted by knowing they're "in a better place now"
4. Religion is fine on a personal level, but it shouldn't be considered in any situation where it could impact people that don't believe in it (like in the government)
5. I didn't choose, I just listened to all of the ideas and views out there and the one that fit me on a personal level was a lack of religion

Religion is a personal belief. You should just accept what feels right to you (using logic to pick is counterproductive as you've been conditioned to believe one)
 

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Don't give me that look, the stupidity in these posts are so laughable. Does it not occur to everyone here that everything happens for a reason? We all reap what we sow in this world, and not only that, look at us as a whole, how did we even get here? How did everything come into creation in the first place? What is creation, space, time?

Life as we know it, is basically a story....HIStory.......

So, then you're just a pawn? I don't understand. If it's his story, as you said, are you fodder? I mean, if so, then I'll consider myself canon-fodder, as I'm the voice of the new generation. I am great and powerful. People will remember me. As the Anglo-Saxons saw life (before people introduced Christianity to them) fame is the only point of life.
 

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How do you know where we go after we die. Pretty obvious you're a dumbass.

I bet you would start caring if you went to hell.

This is exactly , what i was talking about , someone says something about their God & one ignorant idiot comes running & stars bashing , You better focus on the present & worry about the now & start forgetting what comes after you die. Cause i'm pretty sure your bashing towards people will send you to hell too .

check yourself before you wreck yourself.
 

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1. There is no empirical evidence providing the existence of any deity, except in psychological anomalies people contain in their heads.

2. There are restrictions in certain religions that are just plain wrong and serve no purpose. Sharia Law is just plain wrong. Blue Laws are just plain wrong. If you are an Atheist, you are no longer bound to these wrong laws and can live your life how you wish, within the bounds of actual, constitutional law.

3. Being in Atheist today is currently hardship, because many people today view Atheists in a negative light. Maybe not so much as homosexuals or Muslims, but there are still times where we are attacked and verbally abused on the streets. However, compared to homosexuals or Muslims, the media view Atheists as being "the most untrustworthy demographic".

4. Religion brings people together and provides for those who are less fortunate. It doesn't mean that any group can't do this, but it just so happens that organizations that do this are also religious.

5. Personally being attacked by religious folk, being converted to religion at a young age and still being attacked by religious folk, realizing that the top leaders of religion in today's society are holding back progress, understanding Science and how it pertains to the universe we actually know.

How do you know where we go after we die
We don't go anywhere; our body decays, our brain decays, our mind that is projected by our brain does not continue to function because our brain decayed, we perceive nothing. Because we perceive nothing, nothing no longer happens after you die.
 

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tbh,i believe in god,but not religion.it depends how i define god.
 

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How do you know where we go after we die. Pretty obvious you're a dumbass.

Don't give me that look, the stupidity in these posts are so laughable. Does it not occur to everyone here that everything happens for a reason? We all reap what we sow in this world, and not only that, look at us as a whole, how did we even get here? How did everything come into creation in the first place? What is creation, space, time?

Life as we know it, is basically a story....HIStory.......

Well I don't want any if the seeds you are sowing. Damn. You 're just throwing out weeds the way you approaching your fellow men.
 

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1. There is no empirical evidence providing the existence of any deity, except in psychological anomalies people contain in their heads.

2. There are restrictions in certain religions that are just plain wrong and serve no purpose. Sharia Law is just plain wrong. Blue Laws are just plain wrong. If you are an Atheist, you are no longer bound to these wrong laws and can live your life how you wish, within the bounds of actual, constitutional law.

3. Being in Atheist today is currently hardship, because many people today view Atheists in a negative light. Maybe not so much as homosexuals or Muslims, but there are still times where we are attacked and verbally abused on the streets. However, compared to homosexuals or Muslims, the media view Atheists as being "the most untrustworthy demographic".

4. Religion brings people together and provides for those who are less fortunate. It doesn't mean that any group can't do this, but it just so happens that organizations that do this are also religious.

5. Personally being attacked by religious folk, being converted to religion at a young age and still being attacked by religious folk, realizing that the top leaders of religion in today's society are holding back progress, understanding Science and how it pertains to the universe we actually know.



We don't go anywhere; our body decays, our brain decays, our mind that is projected by our brain does not continue to function because our brain decayed, we perceive nothing. Because we perceive nothing, nothing no longer happens after you die.
This has to be the stupidest post I have ever read. Only by a true atheist. So how is that WE are here now? You see, without death.............there cannot be life....

Think of it like this, if your stupid idea is true and nothing happens after we pass on, then that means, eventually, the human race will cease to exist. You see, our bodies are nothing more, then just our physical vessels... Our souls exists as an astral entity in itself... There is a realm our spirits go to, after we pass on. It doesn't just stop after we die, if that's the case, HOW did we come about in the FIRST place?

If in the beginning, everything stops after death, then how, after the pre-existence before us ALL passed on, how is that we are conscious of our existences? We have ALL lived past lives before, however we are stripped of these memories after we are reincarnated.
 

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So, then you're just a pawn? I don't understand. If it's his story, as you said, are you fodder? I mean, if so, then I'll consider myself canon-fodder, as I'm the voice of the new generation. I am great and powerful. People will remember me. As the Anglo-Saxons saw life (before people introduced Christianity to them) fame is the only point of life.
Child.... we are all created from something. We all have an origin, a beginning. We weren't just ALWAYS in existence since the dawn of time.
Now you can be a non-believer if you want. I can't convert anyone's opinions. I just love to tell people off sometimes, because I know that everybody on narutobase, except ONLY a select few (me being the only important one here) are just nothing but atheists.
 

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This is exactly , what i was talking about , someone says something about their God & one ignorant idiot comes running & stars bashing , You better focus on the present & worry about the now & start forgetting what comes after you die. Cause i'm pretty sure your bashing towards people will send you to hell too .

check yourself before you wreck yourself.
How cute, but I'm only refuting what others say. Saying things like "I don't really care if I believe in god or not", deserves my spiteful deliberations....

Oh, and um....I don't know if you're aware of this, I'm pretty sure you're not, it's okay, I know it's not easy to understand........... but this IS a discussion, I'm pretty sure I can say what I want, since this IS a discussion, thank you very much... Hey, you learned something new today, I'm proud of you, my son.
 

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This has to be the stupidest post I have ever read. Only by a true atheist.

Congratulations for starting off a post already in a fit of insults and derogatory manners!

So how is that WE are here now?

We are here because other species were here. Watch out--I'm going to say the dreaded E-word. Evolution, the backbone of Biology. You literally cannot understand Biology unless you open your mind to Evolution, because Evolution is the entire driving force behind it. This is just like how you cannot understand earthquakes unless you open your mind to the theory of Plate Techtonics.

You see, without death.............there cannot be life....

Please explain further?

Think of it like this, if your stupid idea is true and nothing happens after we pass on, then that means, eventually, the human race will cease to exist.

No, no it doesn't. The human race will continue to reproduce long after we pass on.

You see, our bodies are nothing more, then just our physical vessels... Our souls exists as an astral entity in itself... There is a realm our spirits go to, after we pass on. It doesn't just stop after we die, if that's the case, HOW did we come about in the FIRST place?

Can you provide empirical evidence for the existence of a soul, explained by a peer-reviewed article written by several Ph.D-trained Life Science doctors?

HOW did we come about in the FIRST place?

The Scientific Principle of Abiogenesis, where we have found out that the first protocells arose from the key building blocks of life, which are chemical compounds. These protocells then underwent Speciation after being exposed to the harsh elements of the environment. It's not rocket science, but it's still Science.
If in the beginning, everything stops after death, then how, after the pre-existence before us ALL passed on, how is that we are conscious of our existences?

Because the males ejaculated and fertilized an eggcell, which formed into a Blastocyte, which developed into an embryo, which developed into a fetus, then traveled through the birth canal into Lifehood.

Read: More people alive today than there were in the past. More souls? Nope.

We have ALL lived past lives before, however we are stripped of these memories after we are reincarnated.

Can you provide empirical evidence for the existence of past lives, explained by a peer-reviewed article written by several Ph.D-trained Life Science doctors?

we are all created from something

Glad you agree! :D
 
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1. There is no empirical evidence providing the existence of any deity, except in psychological anomalies people contain in their heads.

2. There are restrictions in certain religions that are just plain wrong and serve no purpose. Sharia Law is just plain wrong. Blue Laws are just plain wrong. If you are an Atheist, you are no longer bound to these wrong laws and can live your life how you wish, within the bounds of actual, constitutional law.

3. Being in Atheist today is currently hardship, because many people today view Atheists in a negative light. Maybe not so much as homosexuals or Muslims, but there are still times where we are attacked and verbally abused on the streets. However, compared to homosexuals or Muslims, the media view Atheists as being "the most untrustworthy demographic".4. Religion brings people together and provides for those who are less fortunate. It doesn't mean that any group can't do this, but it just so happens that organizations that do this are also religious.

5. Personally being attacked by religious folk, being converted to religion at a young age and still being attacked by religious folk, realizing that the top leaders of religion in today's society are holding back progress, understanding Science and how it pertains to the universe we actually know.


We don't go anywhere; our body decays, our brain decays, our mind that is projected by our brain does not continue to function because our brain decayed, we perceive nothing. Because we perceive nothing, nothing no longer happens after you die.

I strongly disagree with the bolded. In our generation there is far more tolerance for the atheist community. Many celebrities have come out as atheist and still hold there current fanbase:

Bill Mayer
Seth Mcfarlane
Daniel Radcliff
Kiera Knightly
PenJillette
ect.
ect.

You have nothing to support your claim about what happens when we die. Im sure you don't even understand how the conscious and subconscious (mind) fully works. You have limited us as human beings to only live in a physical world and are only physical beings, but this isn't the case.

Im not bashing your beliefs, but you speak them as though they are law, when indeed they are not.
 
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Oh boy oh boy oh boy

You know what? Im not even gonna get in on this one

*Grabs popcorn and nacho cheddar powder and orders dominos
 

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How cute, but I'm only refuting what others say. Saying things like "I don't really care if I believe in god or not", deserves my spiteful deliberations....

Oh, and um....I don't know if you're aware of this, I'm pretty sure you're not, it's okay, I know it's not easy to understand........... but this IS a discussion, I'm pretty sure I can say what I want, since this IS a discussion, thank you very much... Hey, you learned something new today, I'm proud of you, my son.

If by discussing you mean , bashing , labeling & thinking you are better than others because of what your beliefs are , sure you are great at discussing .

We need less people like yourself & trust me , you'll be burning first before i do , therefore , your ARGO ment is invalid.
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*leaves* this kid is not worth it.
 

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Oh it's you I'm not trolling its just in my religion they say that. I didn't disrespect him. Sorry for your lose. But Genid you just don't like me. Trolling show me how. You always neg me but just know it don't matter cause rep mean nothing. Continue doing It cause I don't give two sh*ts thank you very much.

Haha he certainly didn't save her. That's a fallacious statement. That's part of why I don't like really religious people. Anything good or bad happens and it was either God did this or God is testing me. Crap. Life is what you make of it. I prefer to solve my problems with my own abilities and not really on a god for help
 

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I strongly disagree with the bolded. In our generation there is far more tolerance for the atheist community. Many celebrities have come out as atheist and still hold there current fanbase:

Good point. There have been many Atheists who have spoken up and relatively little happened compared to other demographics. It should still be noted, however, that Atheists are still frequently belittled. Maybe not as often and frequent as the other two, but still exponentially-more than, say, gender or race.

Im sure you don't even understand how the conscious and subconscious fully work.

The conscious and subconscious work because the brain works. The brain is what creates the mind. Cut off the stimulation (electrical impulses) to the brain, the brain no longer functions. What happens when the brain no longer functions? Everything the brain controls ceases to function as well. This includes the mind, which is a projection of the inner workings of the brain. If this doesn't work, then the mind completely ceases. Where is there an after when there is no PERCEIVING of an after?
 
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