Hahaha sorry buddy but your thread proves nothing. Controlling bijuu takes a considerable amount of chakra, you have no idea if obito was able to control genjutsu or not, & btw nice job disregarding this scan.
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Obito had a perfect opportunity to cast genjutsu, & this is before minato even knew that he was madara.
Fail, prove tsukuyomi's range boy, just because its cast within a short distance doesnt mean that it cant be used for long range, has Itachi ever complained about not being able to cast tsukyomi from a distance? No, so once again, fallacy. U_U
Ephemeral deals with him temporarily, once that is dealt with then tell me how minato escapes tsukuyomi?
Unless you believe minato can throw a kunai faster than itachi can point. U_U
Tsukuyomi is short range U_U Re-read Sasuke vs Itachi, Itachi moved in to cast Tsukuyomi thought this stuff was obvious Lol
Anyways I've already prooven that Minato avoids eye-contact and how he defies Tsukuyomi with range as well as speedblitz. Even a Mangekyo can't keep up with his speed [Sasuke vs Ay is a proof of that Lol]
Hahaha sorry buddy but your thread proves nothing. Controlling bijuu takes a considerable amount of chakra, you have no idea if obito was able to control genjutsu or not, & btw nice job disregarding this scan.
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Obito had a perfect opportunity to cast genjutsu, & this is before minato even knew that he was madara.
Fail, prove tsukuyomi's range boy, just because its cast within a short distance doesnt mean that it cant be used for long range, has Itachi ever complained about not being able to cast tsukyomi from a distance? No, so once again, fallacy. U_U
By that time Obito pulled Kyubi and tamed it which means that he already knw that he is an Uchiha....and u can clearly Observe there is no Eye contact...
well you certainly presented something i didnt notice before. We can now say that ftg(minatos at least) > amatersu(as it is proven you can tele away).
However i am doubtful of the ability of ftg, to teleport CHAKRA away. That has not been proven or shown yet.
It has been shown that a sussanoo user can be removed from susanoo, and will temporarily have a short cooldown till they can re establish sussanoo(the cooldown is only several seconds though)
So minato can be hit by amatersu, and tele away(and not be harmed by the flames), but not tele amatersu away, and
Minato can tele a susaanoo user out of his sussanoo, but not walk up and tele the sussanoo away.
It is likely that if minato has marked a sussanoo user, he can teleport inside of sussanoo. Higher, and more dense sussanoos, may be harder or not likely
Never thought about the amaterasu advantage. Even if susanoo is connected to the user, it won't help. All Minato or Tobirama have to do is mark a location, keep a clone there, and then FTG the susanoo and user there. This leaves Minato or Tobirama inside of it, free to attack an Uchiha.
well you certainly presented something i didnt notice before. We can now say that ftg(minatos at least) > amatersu(as it is proven you can tele away).
However i am doubtful of the ability of ftg, to teleport CHAKRA away. That has not been proven or shown yet.
It has been shown that a sussanoo user can be removed from susanoo, and will temporarily have a short cooldown till they can re establish sussanoo(the cooldown is only several seconds though)
So minato can be hit by amatersu, and tele away(and not be harmed by the flames), but not tele amatersu away, and
Minato can tele a susaanoo user out of his sussanoo, but not walk up and tele the sussanoo away.
It is likely that if minato has marked a sussanoo user, he can teleport inside of sussanoo. Higher, and more dense sussanoos, may be harder or not likely
I'm glad to see you read my thread and to know you understand my point. Concerning the chakra port though, you're wrong. It's has been shown enough of time already. Lately even when Tobirama teleported the chakra shroud of both Naruto and Minato in BM:
Another thread created by T Bogard. You make every thread as if Minato can solo everyone! While it's true about the teleportation mechanics behind the technique. You simply stated the same piece of information that we got from the manga. We all know that Susanoo users can be separated from their Susanoo. Also please notice that Sasuke had a ribcage Susanoo! Anyone with brute strength can touch the user it's the weakest form after all! Furthermore, the user must have some connection (chakra) with that object.
Minato was able to teleport with Gamakichi because he has the ability to teleport objects that are within reach of his chakra. Doesn't mean Minato can do much against Naruto, Sasuke, Madara, Hashirama, Juubito, etc...
Minato managed to teleport Naruto and Sasuke because of Naruto's chakra arms as well. So it doesn't surprise me one bit. I think you did this thread for attention because this is old news. Also, Minato is in KCM mode so it makes sense for his techniques to be furthered boosted. You're simply overpraising Minato because i doubt he could dodge all of Susanoo's attacks forever. At some point, Minato better take action or he will die a swift death.
Hahaha sorry buddy but your thread proves nothing. Controlling bijuu takes a considerable amount of chakra, you have no idea if obito was able to control genjutsu or not, & btw nice job disregarding this scan.
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Obito had a perfect opportunity to cast genjutsu, & this is before minato even knew that he was madara.
Fail, prove tsukuyomi's range boy, just because its cast within a short distance doesnt mean that it cant be used for long range, has Itachi ever complained about not being able to cast tsukyomi from a distance? No, so once again, fallacy. U_U
Ephemeral deals with him temporarily, once that is dealt with then tell me how minato escapes tsukuyomi?
Unless you believe minato can throw a kunai faster than itachi can point. U_U
Maybe you knew already, but not everybody. Proof of it is that many already stated i brought something new to their knowledge
We all know that Susanoo users can be separated from their Susanoo. Also please notice that Sasuke had a ribcage Susanoo! Anyone with brute strength can touch the user it's the weakest form after all! Furthermore, the user must have some connection (chakra) with that object.
Minato was able to teleport with Gamakichi because he has the ability to teleport objects that are within reach of his chakra. Doesn't mean Minato can do much against Naruto, Sasuke, Madara, Hashirama, Juubito, etc...
you could be cast into genjutsu just by touching Itachi's body.. good luck :] ftg man XD :itachi:
I agree that Kishi makes *senju* partners have jutsu just to combat the Uchiha jutus though..
its pretty obvious imo.. he just hates Uchiha. [: jk
nice thread though @/_\@
Wrong. If you know where an FTG user is going to jump, you can counter attack via Amaterasu. It's already been proven too many times in this manga.
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Even Tobirama basically said it.
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If an Amaterasu user can predict where an FTG user(Minato) will jump, Amaterasu will be waiting for his ass.
I personally believe Susanoo user aren't connected with their Susanoo chakra. And it's proven by this pic. Notice that the Susanoo chakra isn't connected to Sasuke. It's just a shroud surrounding his body, so basically it works the same way like Obito's chakra orbs surrounding his body, and like you can notice, when Tobirama teleported Obito, the orbs stayed there and couldn't follow at the moment, despite the quickness of attack and defense described by Minato. It only followed later when it lost Obito's track and when he was already hit by the attack(admittedly the attack happened instantly in this case).
^ Here, you see Sasuke is completely covered in chakra.
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^ Now, Sasuke's back is only omitting Chakra from his back.
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^ Last, it seems the Chakra omitting from his back is beginning to lower.
From these scans you conclude two things:
1. Kishi is just inconsistent.
2. Sasuke is was deactivating Susano'o
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As you can see he no longer has the EMS activated after being jumped by the FTG.
So FTG can teleport the chakra based attack(Susanoo) away which would leave the user open. But even if you believe that the Susanoo is connected to the user, it changes nothing against a FTG user. Like i've said above, the FTG user can decide what/who to teleport or not regardless of what/who is connected to him or his chakra, so whether the Susanoo user is indirectly connected to the FTG user or his chakra at that point or not, Minato could freely decide either to teleport the Susanoo only or the Susanoo user only.
By some chance an FTG user does teleport the Susano'o, what exactly would that do? He can simply activate it again. Since a Susano'o user was able to activate one faster than lightning by the time the FTG user reappear, Susano'o will be back to blast his ass.
How an FTG user touch a Amaterasu Susano'o?
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Mangekyo Sharingan is the MOST hax ability in Naruto.
Why would i need to reply anything about your thread? Do i need to go word for word? How outrageous! You're basically saying how Minato easily counters EMS abilities! I don't think Minato laughs at anything because i doubt he beats Madara and Sasuke. You're just a troll who's thirsty for attention. I mean if that's the case i understand. I suppose it's that time of the day, Bogard. However, you proved to me that you're finally a troll. Enlighten me how Minato can deal with Perfect Susanoo? I also don't know how Minato will counter Enton! Sasuke can manipulate the flames which means Sasuke can sit back and place the flames back on Minato.
Another thread created by T Bogard. You make every thread as if Minato can solo everyone! While it's true about the teleportation mechanics behind the technique. You simply stated the same piece of information that we got from the manga. We all know that Susanoo users can be separated from their Susanoo. Also please notice that Sasuke had a ribcage Susanoo! Anyone with brute strength can touch the user it's the weakest form after all! Furthermore, the user must have some connection (chakra) with that object.
Minato was able to teleport with Gamakichi because he has the ability to teleport objects that are within reach of his chakra. Doesn't mean Minato can do much against Naruto, Sasuke, Madara, Hashirama, Juubito, etc...
Minato managed to teleport Naruto and Sasuke because of Naruto's chakra arms as well. So it doesn't surprise me one bit. I think you did this thread for attention because this is old news. Also, Minato is in KCM mode so it makes sense for his techniques to be furthered boosted. You're simply overpraising Minato because i doubt he could dodge all of Susanoo's attacks forever. At some point, Minato better take action or he will die a swift death.
Still doesnt change the fact that obito had a perfect opportunity to cast genjutsu, why would minato avoid eye contact? There would be no reason to. U_U
Tsukuyomi is short range U_U Re-read Sasuke vs Itachi, Itachi moved in to cast Tsukuyomi thought this stuff was obvious Lol
(emphasis on the eye) & then moved towards sasuke afterwards
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& Even so, how does this prove anything regardless? Itachi wanted to make sure that he caught sasuke in genjutsu. Look at him, sasuke was looking around due to the crow clone, you dont know if itachi was even able to get off a tsukuyomi shot from that distance because sasuke was distracted. U_U
So as you can see, Itachi doesnt need to move in to cast tsukuyomi, that is simply something that you fabricated. Lol
Anyways I've already prooven that Minato avoids eye-contact and how he defies Tsukuyomi with range as well as speedblitz. Even a Mangekyo can't keep up with his speed
If making up false facts & contorting the manga to whatever you wish counts as evidence then yeah for sure you would've proven it. But alas this is not your world, its kishi's.
[Sasuke vs Ay is a proof of that Lol] SO quit posting fails
I didnt know that every MS user's speed = sasuke's speed! XD
Madara was having an easy ass time keeping up with A, he even captured him in a genjutsu, so I fail to see how using abc logic helps your biased opinion. Lol
