Minato ( alive ) vs Pain

[Prince Charles]

2 FTG Kunais are enough for Minato to end Deva Path. The rest are fodders. Naruto was manhandling them easy in taijutsu. Minato is faster

I think your being a bit biased here saying 2 kunai ends this when Pain can easily repel the kunai away from him if Minato were to throw them that is to my understanding.

 

[Bogard]

U_U No just no lml he can push two targets away, and thanks to sensing he would know what they are :| he pushes them both away easily

I think your being a bit biased here saying 2 kunai ends this when Pain can easily repel the kunai away from him if Minato were to throw them that is to my understanding.

Not really. 5seconds interval is too long compared to the throwing process of a kunai which happens in less than a second. He would push the first kunai while Minato would be throwing the second and thus finishing him during the interval

 

[AGoodBoy]

No, not at all, Deva would be in the back while Preta is in the front so, He would ST minato if he tried to blitz and than preta would absorb the seal on the kunai, thanks to Pain's chakra sensing before Minato could even use it , and even if he could he would be too far away too do anything as Preta creates a field of absorption and right when that seal enters the field it is absorbed

That's impossible... It's a metal kunai along so Preta would so himself if he went infront of it... It's also travelling at very high speed (minato's kunai are heavier than normal ones to move faster), and he doesn't need to aim it at any pain other than Deva. For that matter he doesn't even need to toss one, he can toss 6 for his spiral howl and teleport to whichever he feels is closest to take out deva during the 5 second interval. This is all circumstantial of course.

Also, it's just a barrier infront preta so that chakra attacks don't hit him. That's not working when a metal kunai is flying at him. Even if it did work once, minato could just do that same strategy again but FTG to the kunai when it got near preta and kill preta from there.

 

[Unorthodox]

Not really. 5seconds interval is too long compared to the throwing process of a kunai which happens in less than a second. He would push the first kunai while Minato would be throwing the second and thus finishing him during the interval

he simply counters then with the rods dont act like pain is a rookie not to mention minato is overwhelme by the summings CT ends this

 

[Prince Charles]

Not really. 5seconds interval is too long compared to the throwing process of a kunai which happens in less than a second. He would push the first kunai while Minato would be throwing the second and thus finishing him during the interval

Wow I forgot about the 5 second interval xd. Meh I see your point, I would honestly dismiss it but this is minato were talking about who doesnt waste his opportunities so your claim is sort of valid.:ilu:

But I do feel your underestimating the other paths like the summonings etc.

 

[Zexion~]

Not really. 5seconds interval is too long compared to the throwing process of a kunai which happens in less than a second. He would push the first kunai while Minato would be throwing the second and thus finishing him during the interval

So he pushes the kunai and Minato at the same time :| He can push more than one thing at once

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people don't know how OP ST is U_U

That's impossible... It's a metal kunai along so Preta would so himself if he went infront of it... It's also travelling at very high speed (minato's kunai are heavier than normal ones to move faster), and he doesn't need to aim it at any pain other than Deva. For that matter he doesn't even need to toss one, he can toss 6 for his spiral howl and teleport to whichever he feels is closest to take out deva during the 5 second interval. This is all circumstantial of course.

Also, it's just a barrier infront preta so that chakra attacks don't hit him. That's not working when a metal kunai is flying at him. Even if it did work once, minato could just do that same strategy again but FTG to the kunai when it got near preta and kill preta from there.

Doubt that kunai would do enough damage to derail nagato's control over the body, its a corpse so the pain is meaningless, not to mention Naruka path would revive him if necessary but that strategy can be saved for later really,

The pand shield summon would suffice

 

[AGoodBoy]

Wow I forgot about the 5 second interval xd. Meh I see your point, I would honestly dismiss it but this is minato were talking about who doesnt waste his opportunities so your claim is sort of valid.:ilu:

But I do feel your underestimating the other paths like the summonings etc.

To be fair, All paths but Animal path are quite useless in this battle... Asura would never hit minato will his slow ass rockets, lol. Human pass has no use since he can't restrain minato. Preta has nothing much to absorb since minato is high on non-chakra based attacks. Naraka could be useful to heal the other paths, but with full intel, minato would just dispose of the paths(FTG/remote FTG them away) so that wouldn't happen... Really, this fight is just Deva and Animal path vs minato, but Bunta could hold off animal long enough to just make it deva vs minato.. That 5 sec interval is a *****. Pain can still win this, but FTG is truly hax'd, this most likely goes to minato. It's the same way kamui is extremely hax'd and would most likely give a Obito vs Pain fight to obito...

Doubt that kunai would do enough damage to derail nagato's control over the body, its a corpse so the pain is meaningless, not to mention Naruka path would intercept it but that strategy can be saved for later really,

The pand shield summon would suffice

Wait, isn't naraka the one that revives? Why would he intercept?

As to the first point. Sure it might not kill preta, but preta would still be leaving himself open to injury from a metal kunai. In any case, any path that intercepts would get a V2-FTG to the face as the preta wouldn't be there absorbing the seal...

That panda is from animal path, he'd also need to be standing infront of that kunai. Minato's kunai have been shown to move faster than ay during his lightning straight, and faster than Obito and minato while they were dashing towards each other.

 

[Bogard]

So he pushes the kunai and Minato at the same time :| He can push more than one thing at once

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Your own pic shows the reason of Deva's defeat. This one particularly

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During the first shinra tensei, Choji managed to throw other kunais, but Deva dodged something Kakashi even found weird. But more importantly, look how close the kunais Choji threw were from Deva. Replace them with FTG kunais and Minato as the opponent and do the math

 

[Prince Charles]

To be fair, All paths but Animal path are quite useless in this battle... Asura would never hit minato will his slow ass rockets, lol. Human pass has no use since he can't restrain minato. Preta has nothing much to absorb since minato is high on non-chakra based attacks. Naraka could be useful to heal the other paths, but with full intel, minato would just dispose of the paths(FTG/remote FTG them away) so that wouldn't happen... Really, this fight is just Deva and Animal path vs minato, but Bunta could hold off animal long enough to just make it deva vs minato.. That 5 sec interval is a *****. Pain can still win this, but FTG is truly hax'd, this most likely goes to minato. It's the same way kamui is extremely hax'd and would most likely give a Obito vs Pain fight to obito...

Agreed. Bogard and you have convinced me. xd

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Itachi>minato any day come at me

 

[Zexion~]

Your own pic shows the reason of Deva's defeat. This one particularly

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During the first shinra tensei, Choji managed to throw other kunais, but Deva dodged something Kakashi even found weird. But more importantly, look how close the kunais Choji threw were from Deva. Replace them with FTG kunais and Minato as the opponent and do the math

You missed the point U_U Minato would be sent flying backwards with his kunai just like the fodder ninja were, so he wouldn't be able to do this, Pain controls the force of repulsion, so he would repel minato's whole body making him inable to throw a kunai while being sent flying

 

[Bogard]

Agreed. Bogard and you have convinced me. xd

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Itachi>minato any day come at me

Of course i did

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Minato shits on Itachi

 

[Prince Charles]

Of course i did

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Minato shits on Itachi

oh bogard your so funny !!!!!!!!! I agree with you ! Minato takes the sharigan wielder.

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No mother fker! tysukyomi = GG

 

[Unorthodox]

deva rods counter kunai or he simply dodges or uses CT

 

[Zexion~]

so what Minato FTG's directly into a ST Blast lml makes sense, he still gets sent sprawling,

 

[Bogard]

You missed the point U_U Minato would be sent flying backwards with his kunai just like the fodder ninja were, so he wouldn't be able to do this, Pain controls the force of repulsion, so he would repel minato's whole body making him inable to throw a kunai while being sent flying

Why would Minato be sent flying back when he isn't the one attacking but simply throwing kunais from mid-long range? It's the kunais that shinra tensei would push since at that moment, Deva would use Shinra tensei as a defensive measure. It's exactly what happened on your own pic. You are the one missing the point. Despite the pressure of the first Shinra tensei, we see Choji able to throw kunais during the interval between 2 Shinra tensei(Kakashi as well)

 

[Zexion~]

Why would Minato be sent flying back when he isn't the one attacking but simply throwing kunais from mid-long range? It's the kunais that shinra tensei would push since at that moment, Deva would use Shinra tensei as a defensive measure. It's exactly what happened on your own pic. You are the one missing the point. Despite the pressure of the first Shinra tensei, we see Choji able to throw kunais during the interval between 2 Shinra tensei(Kakashi as well)

They were not affected by ST because they weren't firing at Deva beforehand the fodder were the immediate threat so he annihilated them first, there's only one person here so no one is being spared from the blast

Deva pin-points where the repulsion begins and ends, its not just in one direction or in a sphere like everyone assumes

 

[Bogard]

They were not affected by ST because they weren't firing at Deva beforehand the fodder were the immediate threat so he annihilated them first, there's only one person here so no one is being spared from the blast

Deva pin-points where the repulsion begins and ends, its not just in one direction or in a sphere like everyone assumes

The bold part is exactly my point. The second kunai won't be affected as well because it won't be fired at Deva beforehand(since it would be fired after the first shinra tensei, during the interval). It's exactly the reason why Deva would be left open during said interval. And you're wrong concerning something. The Shinra tensei has a certain range. It's for that reason the first shinra tensei didn't affect Kakashi and Choji who were behind Choji's family, so outside the range of Deva's normal Shinra tensei. More he increases the range, and greater the interval is. It's how Shinra tensei works

 

[Zexion~]

The bold part is exactly my point. The second kunai won't be affected as well because it won't be fired at Deva beforehand(since it would be fired after the first shinra tensei, during the interval). It's exactly the reason why Deva would be left open during said interval. And you're wrong concerning something. The Shinra tensei has a certain range. It's for that reason the first shinra tensei didn't affect Kakashi and Choji who were behind Choji's family, so outside the range of Deva's normal Shinra tensei. More he increases the range, and greater the interval is. It's how Shinra tensei works

That's clearly wrong, the more chakra he puts into the blast, the stronger and farther it can get as look at the range the first one covered

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compared to the second

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And now a smaller one

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Or you can look at the range Chouji and Chouza were from Deva

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basically the same range they were in the scans i posted before when they were NOT hit

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Note that he rushes forward enough so that he is directily horizontal from the Akimichi on the right's attack

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Now they were completely floored by an ST when they were basically at the same range

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also note that Pain was bushed even farther back

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Sorry if all the scans confuse ya Anyways, all this is kind of pointless as its not like Minato would be at such a great distance anyway's., and as i said before ST is not even needed, just the panda summon

 

[Bogard]

That's clearly wrong, the more chakra he puts into the blast, the stronger and farther it can get as look at the range the first one covered

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compared to the second

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And now a smaller one

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Or you can look at the range Chouji and Chouza were from Deva

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basically the same range they were in the scans i posted before when they were NOT hit

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Note that he rushes forward enough so that he is directily horizontal from the Akimichi on the right's attack

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Now they were completely floored by an ST when they were basically at the same range

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also note that Pain was bushed even farther back

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Sorry if all the scans confuse ya Anyways, all this is kind of pointless as its not like Minato would be at such a great distance anyway's., and as i said before ST is not even needed, just the panda summon

*Sigh* The normal shinra tensei does have a range. Dunno what is hard to get. In all your pics they were in close range. This is another example:

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He can't counter 2repetitive attacks. It's as simple as that. You talk as if Minato was forced to stay close from Deva to throw kunais when he can be from 2meters to 40meters if he wants during the fight. The normal Shinra tensei can't even hit someone at 10meters

Dunno what the panda thing is though, but Minato has summons as well. He can even use clones if he feels the need, but Pain has no chance in this fight

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Good post T Board I guess the real challenge is setting it to Manga Knowledge.