Neji vs Tsunade

[Zexion~]

Neji mid diff

 

[FemmeFatale]

Going by what we know, only SPEED is a deciding factor if something makes it through rotation [ei Juubi's spears], not POWER. Neji's defense is equal/rivals that of Gaara's sand ....

Don't compare Deva's almighty push to Tsunade's punches, that's just not right. The comparasion doesn't even make sense

They both make things so boom with a concussive force, I dont see why they can't be compared.
And Tsunade can break through Gaara sand if she had to anytime chidori does.
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[Made in Heaven]

They both make things so boom with a concussive force, I dont see why they can't be compared.
And Tsunade can break through Gaara sand if she had to anytime chidori does.
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Tsunade .... Doesn't ... have Chidori

 

[FemmeFatale]

Tsunade .... Doesn't ... have Chidori

But Tsunade punch can level building, why wouldn't it be able to break through sand.

 

[Made in Heaven]

But Tsunade punch can level building, why wouldn't it be able to break through sand.

Scan of her breaking building please...

Also, Gaara's sand isn't normal sand, I'm pretty sure it being able to stop Amaterasu and Ay's Lightning armor powered punch is enough proof of that.

Anyways, to get back on topic, please do try and explain to me how Tsunade can touch Neji with his Byakugan's extreme eyesight, sensing, movement detection and ability to alter an enemies attacks? Neji's eyes will foresee and accurately keep track of Tsunade's every movement, every single detail, allowing him to thoroughly read her movements. And His ability to expel chakra and alter an attacks direction will allow him to, at least somewhat, avoid getting hit by Tsunade

 

[fastrthnwind]

You guys probably know my take on this. not commenting for obvious reasons U_U

 

[Made in Heaven]

You guys probably know my take on this. not commenting for obvious reasons U_U

So, you think Neji wins?

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Because everyone who isn't a delusional idiot knows a Kage, let alone a Hokage >>>> Random Hyuuga fodder.
/thread.

ABC logic doesn't work in Naruto. Poor argument.

I would still say Tsunade does.


1. Experience: Tsunade's combat experience and career as a shinobi FAR outclasses Neji's. Additionally, growing up in Konoha would make her knowledgeable of the Hyuga style, and have thought of ways to combat it. Just look at Kakuzu vs Kakashi and Team 10. His experience resulted in Kakashi on the ground twice, and twice in positions where he was dead if not for outside help saving him. Experience always plays a significant factor in fights.


2. Strength: In terms of physical strength, Tsunade has one of the highest physical strengths in the series. Even without enhancing her strikes she can crush walls and the earth. So even if her points end up being blocked, she can still dish out the physical damage to hurt Neji if he decides to try and block a punch.


3. Ninjutsu: While in a later phase of the fight making it useless...due to the gentle fist... the early stages can call for her to utilize techniques like the one she used on Kabuto where she re-wired the nervous system to make different body parts move different things. Had she been going for a kill, Kabuto would have been done at that short interval from when he was unable to figure it out.



It is also important to keep in mind that Tsunade is not a pushover when it comes to hand to hand combat. Sure she doesn't have the most elegant style, but if it gets up close, one grapple or one punch that should have been dodged instead of blocked is most likely game over.


Even more so, Tsunade can keep her distance and use the power of her strikes to disrupt and effect the ground around Neji.




I'm glad you respect and understand the power of the Gentle fist; however, between her combat strength and her own natural physical strength without enhancements... I don't see Neji winning. The fact we eliminated a summon for Tsunade should be enough to show that she is stronger.

Neji's Byakugan

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In these panels, it is stated that the Byakugan is able to sense & detect enemy attacks & movements, which would allow for Neji to be able to know where Tsunade is and what they're doing. He would also be able to detect and sense when Tsunade is getting ready for an attack.

Neji is also fast , not on his feet, but when he is attacking. Someone like Ay is fast on their feet, but Neji is fast when attacking, as evident by the following scan

Neji could attack an enemy 64 times in a near instant [This is true for all users of the 64 palms] So neji's arm-speed is fast. He could very well attack Tsunade fast enough before she'd have a chance to hit him.
Neji has also displayed impressive reflexes. which, as mentioned before, are mostly thanks to his Byakugan.

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Combat speed and foot speed are not the same. Neji's combat speed is faster than Tsunade's, which means Neji has the upper hand in a hand-to-hand battle

The Byakugan is also able to keep up with high speed movement. This is apparent by Neji's ability to analyze Kidomaru's high-speed attacks while they are in motion.

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Neji was also able to, along with Kakashi, to be able to keep up with Lee's movements and attacks when he had opened the chakra gates. Kakashi did this by using the Sharingan's prediction ability and Neji did it by using the Byakugan's ability to process fast movement accurately.

So the Byakugan is capable of being able to see some pretty fast jutsus, which would allow Neji to be able to keep track of Sakura/Tsunade as well.

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So in conclusion, Neji isn't gonna get over whelmed by speed, due to the Byakugan's ability to keep up with high speed movement, detect & sense attacks, and to increase the reflexes of it's user.

With the gentle fist & fast movements, It's possible for him to very well one-shot Tsunade as a simple poke to the heart area, which would damage the heart, would render her dead, or at the least, severly injured and unable to fight ....if it was his intent to kill. When Neji attacked the Tenketsu near Hinata's heart in their fight, even after medical attention AND a whole month to recover, she still wasn't at full strength.

And he wasn't trying to kill her.

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Also, Tsunade's strong body is pretty much worthless in this fight, as it has been stated that, unlike the strong fist which focuses on damaging the outer body, the gentle fist attacks the inner body, and that part of the body can't be trained to become stronger. Whether weak or muscular, the gentle fist will have the same affect on everyone.

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Heavenly Rotation is also a suitable defense against the Medic's punches, as her punches wouldn't be able to make it through Rotation. The only time anything made it through the Rotation was The Juubi's Spears, and that was due to the speed.....The Byakugan would be able to keep up with speed, thus if Tsunade is about to charge in with the intent to attack, Neji could put up the Rotation technique. There's also the Byakugan's 359 degree vision, which would mean no sneak attacks from behind would work, and would be countered by either Rotation or One blow body.

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Tsunade also can't get near Neji because they'd lose the instant Neji manages to land one blow, as he'll easily be able to continue on with more from there.
Also, Neji is able to alter enemy attacks with his chakra. Meaning he is in control of where he wants the attack to go. Somwhat, anyways.

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This would allow Neji to either make Tsunade's attacks miss all together, or, if she is possibly too fast for it, he could at the very least slow the attack down to lessen the impact and alter it's direction so that the attack isn't a clean punch, which would save him from suffering too much damage. Also, aside from Heavenly Rotation, Neji has another defense, this being a sort of chakra armor.

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This ability, as shown in the image, deflects punches if they were to make it to Neji. Now, obviously, the attacks are a lot stronger than Naruto's, so this chakra armor would do nothing more than lessen the impact.

Tsunade's slug summoning

To put it simply, this thing is essentially pointless. Katsuyu's only offenseive ability is her ability to shoot acid out of her mouth. Sure, a normal shinobi wouldn't see this coming, but Neji, with his Byakugan, could and would use his heavenly rotation as a counter, or simply dodge it all together.

Katsuyu's( & Tsunade's) healing abilities are relatively pointless in this fight as, like I said before, gentle fist affects the inner and not the outer body. Sure, they may be able to heal a few wounds if possible, but would that help reopen chakra points? Nope. and that's another thing, with their tenketsu closed, Tsunade would neither be able to heal or punch.

Katsuyu also could easily be taken out by Neji pretty easily. Since Katsuyu has no arms, she can't do anything but sit there while Neji attacks her. If Tsunade tries to approuch from behind, which Neji will be able to see, the one blow body or Rotation will be able to deal with it.

KGB Kakuzu, Prince's argument countered yours. I know it's hard to accept Neji wins because he isn't Kage level, but he is the perfect counter to Tsunade. He has a 4.5/5 for speed while tsunade only has 3.5/5. His Taijutsu is 4.5/5 where tsunade's is 5/5, however, the distance of his 8 tri grams and his great speed over her gives him the edge.

No boss summon like Katsuyu or gamabunta has ever been shown to be summoned against a human sized enemy. i doubt she'd even get summoned. even if she was summoned, as prince said it'd be useless.

This is just like some of my Zabuza threads, majority thinks the other guy wins but Zabuza actually does.

Neji wins very high diff, however he could lose this

 

[KingHashirama]

"hes faster then her"

uh

Tsunade's Blitzes > Neji's.....

You would put a taijutsu user of jounin level against the best hand to hand combatant.... and say Neji wins. iight.


Tsunade dances rings around Neji..... lmao.

 

[paratise]

Lol Lee can;t beat him, that's fact. Who knows about Gai ....

It is not a "fact" that Lee can't beat him. Gated Lee is different from the kid in my sig.

Gai obviously beats Neji.

OT: Neji is a bad matchup for Tsunade wo Katsuyu.

 

[AGoodBoy]

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[AGoodBoy]

Tsunade is so underrated by misogynistic Narutobase. This should never have been a question and is not worthy of analysis. You might as well demand explanations for how Hashirama can beat Ino.

I'm very misogynistic but Mei is one of my most supported character. I even support tsunade when she deserves it :|

Tsunade's just going to have a hard time here. Rotation blocks her attacks, and any gentle fist hit shuts down her strength. Neji is a bad matchup for her

 

[TheEvilOne]

I'm very misogynistic but Mei is one of my most supported character. I even support tsunade when she deserves it :|

Tsunade's just going to have a hard time here. Rotation blocks her attacks, and any gentle fist hit shuts down her strength. Neji is a bad matchup for her

It cant shut down her base strength which is enough to take Neji down.

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

can't believe this thread is still going on

saying Tsunade can beat Neji is like saying Tobirama can beat Naruto

 

[AGoodBoy]

It cant shut down her base strength which is enough to take Neji down.

No such thing as her 'base strength' exists. All her strength is based on her chakra enhanced strength. Her base strength would most likely be around the level of sakura's before sakura learnt chakra enhanced strength... That's not enough to beat neji lul...

 

[Prince Charles]

No such thing as her 'base strength' exists. All her strength is based on her chakra enhanced strength. Her base strength would most likely be around the level of sakura's before sakura learnt chakra enhanced strength... That's not enough to beat neji lul...

Lol the bold made me laugh xd

your handling these tsunade fans like a cake walk

 

[TheEvilOne]

No such thing as her 'base strength' exists. All her strength is based on her chakra enhanced strength. Her base strength would most likely be around the level of sakura's before sakura learnt chakra enhanced strength... That's not enough to beat neji lul...

You must be kididng me. The databook gives her 5 points in strength, she lifted Gamabunta's sword with her base strength.
Sakura has only 3 point in her strength.

 

[Prince Charles]

You must be kididng me. The databook gives her 5 points in strength, she lifted Gamabunta's sword with her base strength.
Sakura has only 3 point in her strength.

Good point.

 

[Penguin]

Tsunade wins in my opinion. She can break Rotation with her strength, and she could change the ground where Neji is standing on with a kick to the ground. No piercing feats? With one finger, she pierced pure concrete in part one. With her chakra control put on her feet, she out speeds Neji.

 

[AGoodBoy]

You must be kididng me. The databook gives her 5 points in strength, she lifted Gamabunta's sword with her base strength.
Sakura has only 3 point in her strength.

Fair enough on the strength thing. I never did look sakura up in the DB.

Regardless, her base strength isn't enough to take on neji, who tanked juubi's palm and spikes, with rotation.