MS Sasuke vs Sasori and Deidara.

[Pragmatic]

Chidori Senbon > Deidara

amaterasu > Sasori

gg no re

 

[TheEvilOne]

Amaterasu GG, Susanoo arrow GG.

 

[Optimistic]

I disagree regarding the arrows. Look here at Spoilers (its honestly more clear in the anime):

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As you can see Danzo escape Sasuke's final Sussanoo. And what did Danzo do? He glided out for recovery. You can see in the scan that Sasuke was trying to get an accurate shot and the best timing was, waiting for Danzo to land.

That being said Sasuke will not have perfect accuracy with Deidara moving around airborne. He will have to hit him on ground for better precision.



Sasori has a lot of options Ill summarized them:

Amatersau: Hiruko tank then eject, Shaping Iron Sand to a defense, 100 puppets diversion/block path/ Line of Sight
Arrow: Somewhat Same as above.



Thats a misconception going around that the heart hold the chakra. Wrong its the only living part that gives it the ability to control the chakra a human puppet has stored. Big difference.

Human puppets carry there own built chakra "engine". Here is the 3rd Kazekage's (first left panel) [

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What have I just read in this thread? Sasori and Sasuke going 50/50? Deidara pushing it down to low diff? lmao, the stupidity in those statements is strong.

Sasuke wins with ease. His Susanoo can tank any bomb Deidara throws at him, or Raiton can disable it. Deidara has no counter to Amaterasu nor can he evade Susanoo arrows, he gets one shotted (most likely by arrows) especially since Sasuke has full intel on him while Deidara only knows about his abilities from up to the point where they last fought. That means he knows nothing of Sasuke's Susanoo or his deadly arrows. The same goes for Sasori, but he has even less intel than Deidara. When someone can tell me how he survives the first arrow or Amaterasu then he can be a factor in this fight.

Sasori? Again, his Iron Sand isn't making a scratch on Susanoo, at all. His offense is too weak to even scratch Susanoo let alone get past it. Sasuke can either hit him with an arrow (That he isn't evading or gathering enough sand to block in time) as he can see where the chakra lies and can aim for that point. Enton would burn up any and all puppets Sasori has.

Again, Sasuke wins with ease, I'd like to see someone supporting the opposing side put up an argument.
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[Zexion~]

What have I just read in this thread? Sasori and Sasuke going 50/50? Deidara pushing it down to low diff? lmao, the stupidity in those statements is strong.

Sasuke wins with ease. His Susanoo can tank any bomb Deidara throws at him, or Raiton can disable it. Deidara has no counter to Amaterasu nor can he evade Susanoo arrows, he gets one shotted (most likely by arrows) especially since Sasuke has full intel on him while Deidara only knows about his abilities from up to the point where they last fought. That means he knows nothing of Sasuke's Susanoo or his deadly arrows. The same goes for Sasori, but he has even less intel than Deidara. When someone can tell me how he survives the first arrow or Amaterasu then he can be a factor in this fight.

Sasori? Again, his Iron Sand isn't making a scratch on Susanoo, at all. His offense is too weak to even scratch Susanoo let alone get past it. Sasuke can either hit him with an arrow (That he isn't evading or gathering enough sand to block in time) as he can see where the chakra lies and can aim for that point. Enton would burn up any and all puppets Sasori has.

Again, Sasuke wins with ease, I'd like to see someone supporting the opposing side put up an argument.

Lol at Sasuke winning with ease

Sasuke wins High Diff, Replace Deidara with any other Akatsuki member bar hidan konan Zetsu, they win

Deidara is useless here as i'm assuming its Manga knowledge, Raiton nullifies anything he has really :|

Only thing that could be of use is Mines,

 

[deidara senpai]

Lol at Sasuke winning with ease

Sasuke wins High Diff, Replace Deidara with any other Akatsuki member bar hidan konan Zetsu, they win

Deidara is useless here as i'm assuming its Manga knowledge, Raiton nullifies anything he has really :|

Only thing that could be of use is Mines,

agreed with this (for once lmao *_*) as for the bold if its manga knowledge, sasuke will know about the mines and even see/know where they are it would be up to sasori to try to force him onto one of the bombs

 

[Prince Charles]

Sasuke takes this pretty comfortably. Sussano tanks all of their attacks. Amaterasu and sussano arrows finish this.

 

[Nattana]

You guys are severely underrating Sasori and Deidara, as well as that they can fight Sasuke together AT ONCE. Sasori himself has many ways of surprising his opponents with attacks, let alone when Deidara is there to distract Sasuke.

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

Amaterasu GG, Susanoo arrow GG.

last time I checked it can be dodged without much effort

OT Sasuke takes this

 

[Brother Numpsay]

What have I just read in this thread? Sasori and Sasuke going 50/50? Deidara pushing it down to low diff? lmao, the stupidity in those statements is strong.

I was pushing it with the Deidara statement here. As for Sasori 50/50, Sasori is much of a perfect counter to Itachi as to Sasuke. The purpose of possibly winning is due to the side-effects of MS techs. Waiting for the moment of to abuse them leads to the side-effects next, meaning Sasuke being exhausted or

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Sasuke wins with ease. His Susanoo can tank any bomb Deidara throws at him, or Raiton can disable it. Deidara has no counter to Amaterasu nor can he evade Susanoo arrows, he gets one shotted (most likely by arrows) especially since Sasuke has full intel on him while Deidara only knows about his abilities from up to the point where they last fought. That means he knows nothing of Sasuke's Susanoo or his deadly arrows. The same goes for Sasori, but he has even less intel than Deidara. When someone can tell me how he survives the first arrow or Amaterasu then he can be a factor in this fight.

The OP did not clarify the intel in this match up so it won't be 100 percent clear on how the conclusion will go. Deidara does have

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on advance sharingan techs, due to Itachi. That also includes Sasori by default, thanks Itachi ^_^. With that said they will be vigilant. I already explain the arrow situation which you seem to ignored. But as for Amaterasu, clone feints will be perfect and also using/ blocking with line of sight. What Deidara can do with "Line of Sight" using his flying board as a meat shield. Then prepare and create another flight. Since Sasuke has to always but his defense up to tank everything it is only a matter of "

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, thus being vulnerable to the next attack (Of course with Sasori being there since Sasuke will counter the clay).

Sasori? Again, his Iron Sand isn't making a scratch on Susanoo, at all. His offense is too weak to even scratch Susanoo let alone get past it. Sasuke can either hit him with an arrow (That he isn't evading or gathering enough sand to block in time) as he can see where the chakra lies and can aim for that point. Enton would burn up any and all puppets Sasori has.

Again, Sasuke wins with ease, I'd like to see someone supporting the opposing side put up an argument.
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Although Iron Sand will not get pass Susanoo, that is not what makes this tech deadly. You are not suppose to block Iron Sand for a certain reason

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With that said Iron Sand can clog up Susanoo's joints rendering it ineffective to attack, due to the magnetic force it can created when hittign Susanoo. He also can use the same move Gaara did to Madara but with a different method. Once he gathers Sand on Susanoo, to whole down, he can use the magnetic priorities on Sasuke's sword to push him forward (due to Sasuke leaving it on his back

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Iron Sand was only shown to slowly gather after "Attack Priorities" It it still shape how ever it wants for defensive mode. Sasori does keep two Iron Blocks behind him for "just in case" while he use the other block for attacking. Setting up a defense will not be a problem but setting up an attack one after another will.

With that said this is how they are able to take out Sasuke

 

[KidGamer65]

Lol at Sasuke winning with ease

Sasuke wins High Diff, Replace Deidara with any other Akatsuki member bar hidan konan Zetsu, they win

Deidara is useless here as i'm assuming its Manga knowledge, Raiton nullifies anything he has really :|

Only thing that could be of use is Mines,

These guys aren't pushing Sasuke to high diff. Not even close. Putting two people he rapes 1 on 1 together doesn't equal high diff, its mid diff at best.

lmao, you say Deidara is useless here, so you pretty much told me Sasori is pushing Sasuke to high diff.....all I have to say to that is:

Wank Wank Wank.

 

[adeshina365]

Team 2 is incapable of harming Sasuke.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Team 2 is incapable of harming Sasuke.

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[Zexion~]

These guys aren't pushing Sasuke to high diff. Not even close. Putting two people he rapes 1 on 1 together doesn't equal high diff, its mid diff at best.

lmao, you say Deidara is useless here, so you pretty much told me Sasori is pushing Sasuke to high diff.....all I have to say to that is:

Wank Wank Wank.

No, useless in attacking Sasuke, due to raiton still helps in majority amount of ways as in getting his attention, defending Sasori at times..... God wanking is saying Sasuke wins low diff,

Iron Sand >Ribcage susano'o could even possible end there without Intel U_U The bullets would rip through that shit lmao, or at least the spikes


Again replace Deidara with any akatsuki member he loses,

What's your arguments here Susano'o tanks all? Amertarasu GG or your personal favorite Susano'o arrow GG :| When that things speed is really not that fast, it had that one feat since then its been countered lots

 

[KidGamer65]

No, useless in attacking Sasuke, due to raiton still helps in majority amount of ways as in getting his attention, defending Sasori at times..... God wanking is saying Sasuke wins low diff,

Good thing I never said that Sasuke is winning low diff.

Iron Sand >Ribcage susano'o could even possible end there without Intel U_U The bullets would rip through that shit lmao, or at least the spikes

Good thing Sasuke isn't only going to use a ribcage Susanoo against them. Please don't start this BS about intel, it only shows that you are grasping at straws. Sasuke will use his Susanoo as he needs it. Period.

Again replace Deidara with any akatsuki member he loses,

Replace him with Kakuzu and Sasuke still wins.

What's your arguments here Susano'o tanks all? Amertarasu GG or your personal favorite Susano'o arrow GG :| When that things speed is really not that fast, it had that one feat since then its been countered lots

This only shows butthurt cause you clearly can't counter.

Waiting for you to show how they avoid Amaterasu.

Waiting for you to show how they avoids Susanoo arrow.

Waiting for you to show how they break Susanoo, though I don't see that happening considering you tried the petty intel route to say Sasuke would die before ever going to level 2.

Its getting really hard to take you seriously as of late.

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Kakashi and Danzo countered because they had quick moves that only require mental input to activate, Kabuto was fast enough to evade it.

Is Sasori fast enough to evade it? No. Does he have reactions on par with Kabuto? No. Does he have a quick move that can block like Kamui or Mokuton? No. Same goes for Deidara.

Sasuke takes this mid diff, at best.

Lmao, if you don't want to get shitted on don't reply.

 

[Zexion~]

Good thing I never said that Sasuke is winning low diff.

Again, Sasuke wins with ease

:|

Good thing Sasuke isn't only going to use a ribcage Susanoo against them. Please don't start this BS about intel, it only shows that you are grasping at straws. Sasuke will use his Susanoo as he needs it. Period.

Good thing Obv MS Sasuke is going to start with it, as its the least draining, he's not going randomly into final Susano'o just because

Replace him with Kakuzu and Sasuke still wins.

No .. he doesn't

This only shows butthurt cause you clearly can't counter.

Waiting for you to show how they avoid Amaterasu.

Waiting for you to show how they avoids Susanoo arrow.

Avoid amertarasu? Clearly He's not directly aiming at Sasori's heart, the first time up, don't give me that Sharingan see's chakra BS because its clearly not only in his heart as he uses Chakra strings, U_U

By the Time Sasuke even resorts to using it, or if you wana go not IC by the time he finishes charging, Deidara will be in the air, Which an Inexperienced MS Sasuke is not touching him up there, Not to mention he utilized a clone last time he went up against Sasuke, not far fetched in saying he wouldn't do it again, and once he finds out about the Jutsu its pretty easy to avoid it, by staying right on top of Sasuke, blocking his view to Deidara

Waiting for you to show how they break Susanoo, though I don't see that happening considering you tried the petty intel route to say Sasuke would die before ever going to level 2.

Iron sand from the bottom,

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these with enough momentum and velocity may even be able to break through Level Two Susano'o, but again, if Sasuke goes Ribcage its pretty much over, as a mere kick from Ay was able to break through, these squash it in an instant

Its getting really hard to take you seriously as of late.

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Is it neccesary to copy the image URL and put it in the URL slot? ..Would like to see the next page on alot of things you post my man lol, but you always do that :/ as i forget what danzo does next although it looks like he's using Motukon, :| which we all know takes alot of time,

Anyway's Deidara merely goes underground to avoid it, while Sasori can merely remove the core ...Or merely move his body an inch as so it hits a other place, such as the face or the side .....Where he can still function fine

Kakashi and Danzo countered because they had quick moves that only require mental input to activate, Kabuto was fast enough to evade it.

Deidara's Hiding Like A Mole technique was fast enough to avoid even the Eye of the sharingan, pretty sure it would work

If he uses this in the air Deidara avoids it with ease..Linear attacks = Deidara dealing with it no problem on his bird lml,

Is Sasori fast enough to evade it? No. Does he have reactions on par with Kabuto? No. Does he have a quick move that can block like Kamui or Mokuton? No. Same goes for Deidara.

On the bird yes Deidara is as fast as Kabuto, don't say its not as i don't think i need to grab any scans....And Sasori does not need to avoid it, thats the perks of having a body immune to pain, and a replaceable one

Sasuke takes this mid diff, at best.

Lmao, if you don't want to get shitted on don't reply.

I'll take my chances, which reminds me ..after your upcoming debate with SoTRS i'd like to officially debate you if i could

 

[WhiteMangekyou]

I don't even think Sasori and Deidara could fight well together, Deidara's explosions would hurt Sasori's puppet and Deidara would have to hold back. Plus, Deidara is useless against Sauske, Sauske can use the susano'o very well, he'll take deidara out with a powerful lightning style jutsu such as Kirin, early fight, then Sasori will have to deal with Amaterasu and Susano'o I like Sasori, but can't see him winning this, even with Deidara.

 

[KidGamer65]

:|

Mid diff=Ease. Read.

Good thing Obv MS Sasuke is going to start with it, as its the least draining, he's not going randomly into final Susano'o just because

Its IC for him to start with Susanoo, he started with Susanoo in every match during the Kage Summit, he has intel on the DC of Deidara's bombs so why wouldn't he start off with Susanoo again? Oh wait, cause you don't want himto.

Grasping at straws much?

No .. he doesn't

Yes he does, he still wins mid diff. Kakuzu is no help here.

Avoid amertarasu? Clearly He's not directly aiming at Sasori's heart, the first time up, don't give me that Sharingan see's chakra BS because its clearly not only in his heart as he uses Chakra strings, U_U

So Sasuke is going aim Amaterasu at his chakra strings? Lmao you have to come up with better stuff than this.

By the Time Sasuke even resorts to using it, or if you wana go not IC by the time he finishes charging, Deidara will be in the air, Which an Inexperienced MS Sasuke is not touching him up there, Not to mention he utilized a clone last time he went up against Sasuke, not far fetched in saying he wouldn't do it again, and once he finds out about the Jutsu its pretty easy to avoid it, by staying right on top of Sasuke, blocking his view to Deidara

Both of those are IC things to do for MS Sasuke, who has intel on Deidara. Still grasping at straws.

So Deidara being in the air will let him evade Amaterasu? Lmfao, nope not happening. Deidara being in the air doesn't let him evade Susanoo arrow either so your point?

He utilized a clone when the moment was right, he has no reason to randomly use a clone to try and evade jutsu he doesn't know about, not like it'll save him from another attack anyway, not like he can even make clones in time for either of those attacks to hit him.

Iron sand from the bottom,

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these with enough momentum and velocity may even be able to break through Level Two Susano'o, but again, if Sasuke goes Ribcage its pretty much over, as a mere kick from Ay was able to break through, these squash it in an instant

You mean the Iron Sand that Sakura and Chiyo dodged? Not to mention it

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LOL V2 blocked Kirin, Iron Sand is effortlessly tanked by it. Not debatable.

Is it neccesary to copy the image URL and put it in the URL slot? ..Would like to see the next page on alot of things you post my man lol, but you always do that :/ as i forget what danzo does next although it looks like he's using Motukon, :| which we all know takes alot of time,

Next time I'll use the link and not the image then. The bold clearly contradicts what the manga shows. Are you telling me he used a slow attack to block an arrow he couldn't physically react to? He blocked with a slow move despite the arrow being

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You make no sense.

Anyway's Deidara merely goes underground to avoid it, while Sasori can merely remove the core ...Or merely move his body an inch as so it hits a other place, such as the face or the side .....Where he can still function fine

Danzo and Kakashi weren't able to react physically to it, and the latter has the Hiding like a Mole jutsu. Deidara isn't doing what Kakashi failed to do as in reacting to the arrow with physical movement, nice try but he gets skewered before he even leaves the ground.

Sasori can remove his core, but the bold isn't happening. An inch? That's why Danzo and Kakashi (Pre Cog) were able to avoid it by moving an inch...oh wait. :|

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Deidara's Hiding Like A Mole technique was fast enough to avoid even the Eye of the sharingan, pretty sure it would work

Well you are clearly wrong.

If he uses this in the eye Deidara avoids it with ease..Linear attacks = Deidara dealing with it no problem on his bird lml,

Too bad he will never even get on his bird, cause the arrow would kill him in a second. Even if he gets airborne, Amaterasu fries him.

On the bird yes Deidara is as fast as Kabuto, don't say its not as i don't think i need to grab any scans....And Sasori does not need to avoid it, thats the perks of having a body immune to pain, and a replaceable one

Deidara gets one shotted before he ever makes it on his bird, even if he does. Amaterasu fries him.

Then the puppet body he is in gets destroyed. Once the 3rd Kazekage goes down, Sasori becomes fodder in front of Sasuke and then the latter casually runs through his puppets smashing them with Susanoo until Sasori is left, where he gets brutally murdered.

I'll take my chances, which reminds me ..after your upcoming debate with SoTRS i'd like to officially debate you if i could

Ok, I'm down for that.

 

[Zexion~]

@Ej black .just thought i'd mention that i don't think IS is clogging up Susanoo's joints...just thought id throw that out there

 

[KidGamer65]

@Ej black .just thought i'd mention that i don't think IS is clogging up Susanoo's joints...just thought id throw that out there

lmao I facepalmed at that, as if Susanoo even has joints...:leaf:

 

[TheEvilOne]

last time I checked it can be dodged without much effort

OT Sasuke takes this

Kakashi is very fast, yet he couldn't dodge it. His only chance was the Kamui.