Sasuke was always too overpowered

TheRapGuy · Aug 18, 2013

I’d first like to say that I made this thread from an objective point of view and I have used logical deductions without being biased.

Also I’d appreciate if you can keep this thread fanboy-free as much as you can, we should be objective and this is why I have used manga pages to back up my points.

The Valley of the End

It all started at the Valley of the End, when Sasuke did not only had two chances of killing Naruto

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, but also won against a Naruto helped by the power of the nine tails

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. To think that at that age Sasuke could accomplish such a thing was unbelievable.

Sasuke's first meet with Naruto in part two

When he faced Naruto, Sakura, Sai and Yamato he was stopped by Orochimaru from using an unnamed jutsu. After seeing his fight with Itachi we can now clearly see that it was Kirin since the hand motion was the same

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. It is an easy deduction based on elementary logic. Why Orochimaru stopped him was still a mystery, but the four would have been pretty much finished off. They were lucky because Sasuke spared their lives on Orochimaru’s whim. How could Naruto at that time avoid such a hit? Even Itachi’s Susano’o had to reform after getting hit

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What I’m trying to say? Of course the fact that they could not counter the attack, but the fact is pointing out the next question: What was Sasuke’s level after the time-skip? It is clearly that Sasuke had known Kirin far before his fight with Itachi. It is very unpleasing to know that Naruto and Sakura both had years to train, yet Naruto along with Sakura, Sai and Yamato couldn’t beat Sasuke

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If you compare his progress with most of other shinobi’s development, it is clearly visible that Sasuke has made a huge leap in power. He was clearly out of Naruto’s league, since his speed, strategic thinking, ninja tools usage, chackra, ninjutsu, genjutsu and taijutsu have drastically risen above everyone else. Not to talk about him being able to see and talk with the tailed beast inside its host

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Sasuke's battle with Bee

Now let’s think at his encounter with Bee. Sasuke still had to test his MS abilities so he went easy on Bee until Bee got serious and revealed his eight tails. Of course, being busy with accommodating to the MS and new skills he apparently let his guard down and was wounded by Bee two times

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. When Bee unleashed the eight tails

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, Sasuke knew that it was better to end the fight as soon as possible and tried for the first time Amaterasu

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, thus Bee was finished off

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.

To think that Sasuke would defeat Bee was expectable, but to think he would completely fodderise the eight tails was again unbelievable

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. Bee and the eight tails escaped

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, but it was just a lucky move

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.

The Kage summit

Later he took on Raikage and Kazekage at the same time alone

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, this after he already wasted chackra on some samurais

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. He also traveled there through a snowstorm so he had every reason to be tired before the fight begun

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. Raikage was declared the ruler of the alliance, so the strongest ninja in the world, still Sasuke beat him, the man who Naruto could only bow to. Later he fought him, but that is a different story because I am talking about the Kage summit here.

Sasuke's fight with Danzo

Sasuke did not have too much time to recover and his next opponent was right in his face

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. Being completely exhausted he still owned the man who was the leader of ANBU and later Hokage. And when we think that Sasuke was using his Susano’o’s bow for the first time but still done a very good job, when we thing that the forbidden jutsu Izanagi was nothing to him, to think that Danzo’s seal could not stop him, we can clearly conclude that Sasuke was way ahead of other ninjas from his time.

Sasuke's fight with Kakashi

Are two exhausting fights Sasuke’s limit? Not even near. He was later close to solo hit Kakashi with an arrow, who avoided dying by using his sharingan

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. Pretty much luck is you would ask me and this manga page

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.

Sasuke's encounter with Sakura and Naruto

After that Sasuke goes blind, but still manages to be close to kill Sakura

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. Years of training with a Sannin and still not able to kill an almost blind man. And Naruto……. At his full potential he was equal to a blind and out of chackra Sasuke

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. I thought that he would beat Sasuke then, but once again he proved that he was a completely fodder weak willed.

The conclusion

Due to his overpowerness and astonishing skills it seems like Sasuke is becoming like a Goku in the series.

Grammar Nazi · Aug 18, 2013

But Lord Naruto is waaay more powerful than Sasuke now so your points are invalid

FemmeFatale · Aug 18, 2013

The Sharrigan pretty much justifies overpowered-ness-ness. It can copy jutsu's. The Senju's got the short end of the stick, but are still more power imo.
And I think anything your ancestor morals are set on winning with power, and your sensi want to possess all power, 9/10 you will be overpowered

xcoyote · Aug 18, 2013

Naruto one shots

take it easy · Aug 18, 2013

dat fapboy thread.

sasukexx13 · Aug 18, 2013

Sasuke SolOS

Lan Fan · Aug 18, 2013

Spacey orange said:
dat fapboy thread.

It is not fapboy, it is legit (excluding the conclusion).
OT: Probably because he is Kishimoto's favourite he shows that much.

Optimistic · Aug 18, 2013

Spacey orange said:
dat fapboy thread.

Yet you're always the first to view these 'Sasuke fap threads' even though you dislike Sasuke.smh

Grammar Nazi · Aug 18, 2013

sasukexx13 said:
Sasuke SolOS

nobody solos Lord Naruto, he's the next so6p

darkmanure · Aug 18, 2013

Some valid points. Killerbee whooped his ass 2x and Sasuke had backup. Raikage would have went for the kill and possibly die as well, but with his character he would have made sure to kill Sasuke as a result.

TheRapGuy · Aug 18, 2013

FemmeFatale said:
The Sharrigan pretty much justifies overpowered-ness-ness. It can copy jutsu's. The Senju's got the short end of the stick, but are still more power imo

The sharingan justifies only a small part of it or you could explain me how it helped him to copy Kirin. Since it is his own jutsu you’ll have to come up with a good explanation.

The Senju have nothing to do with my thread.

FemmeFatale said:
And I think anything your ancestor morals are set on winning with power, and your sensi want to possess all power, 9/10 you will be overpowered

I have not fully understand what you tried to say that the ancestors, but according to those pages they were not sat mainly on power

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Booker · Aug 18, 2013

Lmao.

(1) Naruto had the Nine Tails helping him, so it's not legit? Hmm, ever heard of the curse mark?

(2) Sasuke was overpowered here.

(3) Lol'd at this one, he didn't use MS on purpose. His MS awakened and he used it by accident. Sasuke was getting ROLFstomped in this fight, and Bee had more than 3 chances to kill Sasuke. Sasuke didn't even win this battle, because Bee's intention was to fake his death and escape. Sasuke got his ass handed to him here, not to mention he had help from 3 others.

(4) Sasuke had to get his ass saved by Obito at the Kage Summit, or else he would have been fodderized. So, no.

(5) Sasuke would have been dead if not for Karin, since she alerted him of Danzo's position. Danzo would have killed Sasuke otherwise. So, again, no.

(6) Sasuke managed to shoot a single arrow and it was kamui'd, then he went blind and lost most of his chakra. Not impressive at all.

(7) Sakura could have killed Sasuke. She just didn't. I don't know why you think this is impressive, since all he did was a single chidori, and Naruto had zero killing intent.

Get out, obvious Sasuke fanboy. You don't even know what you're talking about.

Crossroads · Aug 18, 2013

TheRapGuy said:
I’d first like to say that I made this thread from an objective point of view and I have used logical deductions without being biased.

Also I’d appreciate if you can keep this thread fanboy-free as much as you can, we should be objective and this is why I have used manga pages to back up my points.

The Valley of the End

It all started at the Valley of the End, when Sasuke did not only had two chances of killing Naruto
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You must be registered for see links
, but also won against a Naruto helped by the power of the nine tails
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. To think that at that age Sasuke could accomplish such a thing was unbelievable.

Sasuke's first meet with Naruto in part two

When he faced Naruto, Sakura, Sai and Yamato he was stopped by Orochimaru from using an unnamed jutsu. After seeing his fight with Itachi we can now clearly see that it was Kirin since the hand motion was the same
You must be registered for see links

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. It is an easy deduction based on elementary logic. Why Orochimaru stopped him was still a mystery, but the four would have been pretty much finished off. They were lucky because Sasuke spared their lives on Orochimaru’s whim. How could Naruto at that time avoid such a hit? Even Itachi’s Susano’o had to reform after getting hit
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.

What I’m trying to say? Of course the fact that they could not counter the attack, but the fact is pointing out the next question: What was Sasuke’s level after the time-skip? It is clearly that Sasuke had known Kirin far before his fight with Itachi. It is very unpleasing to know that Naruto and Sakura both had years to train, yet Naruto along with Sakura, Sai and Yamato couldn’t beat Sasuke
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You must be registered for see links

You must be registered for see links

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.

If you compare his progress with most of other shinobi’s development, it is clearly visible that Sasuke has made a huge leap in power. He was clearly out of Naruto’s league, since his speed, strategic thinking, ninja tools usage, chackra, ninjutsu, genjutsu and taijutsu have drastically risen above everyone else. Not to talk about him being able to see and talk with the tailed beast inside its host
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.

Sasuke's battle with Bee

Now let’s think at his encounter with Bee. Sasuke still had to test his MS abilities so he went easy on Bee until Bee got serious and revealed his eight tails. Of course, being busy with accommodating to the MS and new skills he apparently let his guard down and was wounded by Bee two times
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You must be registered for see links

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. When Bee unleashed the eight tails
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, Sasuke knew that it was better to end the fight as soon as possible and tried for the first time Amaterasu
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, thus Bee was finished off
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.

To think that Sasuke would defeat Bee was expectable, but to think he would completely fodderise the eight tails was again unbelievable
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. Bee and the eight tails escaped
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, but it was just a lucky move
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You must be registered for see links
.

The Kage summit

Later he took on Raikage and Kazekage at the same time alone
You must be registered for see links

You must be registered for see links

You must be registered for see links

You must be registered for see links

You must be registered for see links

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, this after he already wasted chackra on some samurais
You must be registered for see links

You must be registered for see links
. He also traveled there through a snowstorm so he had every reason to be tired before the fight begun
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. Raikage was declared the ruler of the alliance, so the strongest ninja in the world, still Sasuke beat him, the man who Naruto could only bow to. Later he fought him, but that is a different story because I am talking about the Kage summit here.

Sasuke's fight with Danzo

Sasuke did not have too much time to recover and his next opponent was right in his face
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. Being completely exhausted he still owned the man who was the leader of ANBU and later Hokage. And when we think that Sasuke was using his Susano’o’s bow for the first time but still done a very good job, when we thing that the forbidden jutsu Izanagi was nothing to him, to think that Danzo’s seal could not stop him, we can clearly conclude that Sasuke was way ahead of other ninjas from his time.

Sasuke's fight with Kakashi

Are two exhausting fights Sasuke’s limit? Not even near. He was later close to solo hit Kakashi with an arrow, who avoided dying by using his sharingan
You must be registered for see links

You must be registered for see links
. Pretty much luck is you would ask me and this manga page
You must be registered for see links
.

Sasuke's encounter with Sakura and Naruto

After that Sasuke goes blind, but still manages to be close to kill Sakura
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. Years of training with a Sannin and still not able to kill an almost blind man. And Naruto……. At his full potential he was equal to a blind and out of chackra Sasuke
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. I thought that he would beat Sasuke then, but once again he proved that he was a completely fodder weak willed.

The conclusion

Due to his overpowerness and astonishing skills it seems like Sasuke is becoming like a Goku in the series.

1. Valley of the End: Naruto held back.

What would Sasuke have done against Gamabunta? GG.

2. Sasuke's first meet with Naruto in Part 2: This is one of the 2 only times Sasuke was > Naruto.

3. Sasuke got the D from Bee twice. If he didn't have Karin and Jugo to save him from death twice in the same fight it would have been GG. Sauce has nice fights, but he doesn't get props for this one, Amaterasu isn't a hard ability to use and without it, Bee would have killed him.

4. Kage Summit was pitiful. Though, his fight with Danzo was nice.

5. How is cleverly Kamui'ing something as fast as an enton arrow "just luck"??
"Avoided dying by using his sharingan" Okay. How many times has Sasuke "avoided dying" by using his Sharingan. This one is beyond irrelevant.

6. Trying to convince us that Sasuke is OP, and you state that he almost kills Sakura. It's Sakura, need I say more?
Why would Naruto harm his brother? Sasuke who he's been trying to save..? Going Sage Mode and summoning Ma and Pa and other toad summons would have been GG unless Tobi/Obito stepped in.

My conclusion: You failed at not being biased. This thread is full of fail.

Cooh · Aug 18, 2013

What do you expect from the main rival of the completely overpowered protagonist?

Crossroads · Aug 18, 2013

Cooh said:
What do you expect from the main rival of the completely overpowered protagonist?

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Sums it up.

TheRapGuy · Aug 18, 2013

Immortal Itachi said:
(1) Naruto had the Nine Tails helping him, so it's not legit? Hmm, ever heard of the curse mark?

(2) Sasuke was overpowered here.

(3) 'd at this one, he didn't use MS on purpose. His MS awakened and he used it by accident. Sasuke was getting ROLFstomped in this fight, and Bee had more than 3 chances to kill Sasuke. Sasuke didn't even win this battle, because Bee's intention was to fake his death and escape. Sasuke got his ass handed to him here, not to mention he had help from 3 others.

(4) Sasuke had to get his ass saved by Obito at the Kage Summit, or else he would have been fodderized. So, no.

(5) Sasuke would have been dead if not for Karin, since she alerted him of Danzo's position. Danzo would have killed Sasuke otherwise. So, again, no.

(6) Sasuke managed to shoot a single arrow and it was kamui'd, then he went blind and lost most of his chakra. Not impressive at all.

(7) Sakura could have killed Sasuke. She just didn't. I don't know why you think this is impressive, since all he did was a single chidori, and Naruto had zero killing intent.

1. I have never said that the fight was not legitimate.

2. Actually your response is the funny one. C’mon accidentally used MS….. If you would have read the manga you would have known he had awakened it after Itachi’s death

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. Bee was forced to so else he would have been captured

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. Sasuke had help from others like Bee had from his beast.

3. The fact that Sasuke was saved by Tobi does not mean he did not do what I said in my OP He owned them. Going off topic much?

4. It is exactly like Kurama healing Naruto at the Valley of the End. IN that case you considered the healing legitimate, in this case you do not?

5. I said close not that he defeated him. Actually you have said exactly what I said at this point in my OP. Like a parrot….

6. She could have, buy did not. I have never said she could not have. Sasuke also would have killed her if Naruto was not saving her.

Our of chackra and blind Sasuke = Naruto at his full potential there

Immortal Itachi said:
Get out, obvious Sasuke fanboy. You don't even know what you're talking about.

As I said in the OP, keep this fanboy free. You lack objectiveness.

Avinash012 · Aug 18, 2013

Didn't read ...Naruto >>> Sasuke any day ...XDXDXD

Hebi Sasuke · Aug 18, 2013

They are equals. And always have been. There are times when it seems one is above the other,but in the end they are ying and yang like Kishimoto said.

Crossroads · Aug 18, 2013

Hebi Sasuke said:
They are equals. And always have been. There are times when it seems one is above the other,but in the end they are ying and yang like Kishimoto said.

How does current Sasuke counter BM?

Optimistic · Aug 18, 2013

TheCrossroads said:
How does current Sasuke counter BM?

This is when things get awkward.

Sasuke was always too overpowered

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