Denying a Prime Hiruzens stength

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Prime Hiruzen surly is the most powerful. It's funny people deny that a prime hiruzen was the strongest of the hokage's but the playing field was pretty much in the favor of the two reanimated kages. It was said that the two reanimated kage's where not at full chakara well... What about hiruzen at his age? He probably wasn't at top form either. Also people try to say that he wouldn't have caught the two kage's in the reaper death jutsu if they where at full power... Well Hiruzen sarutobi said himself when he was fighting Hashirama that he was just as strong and as fast as ever. Hiruzen would know this because he trained under and fought along side him and Tobirama. Stating that although they were not perfected zombies they where at top condition as far as speed and stamina. It's also said by many Hashirama tobirama madara fan boys that the hokage's barely used any jutsu while fighting sarutobi... Well neither did Hurizen. It was stated that he could barely make clones because of his age and chakara. So how do you know Hiruzen didn't have better Jutsu 20 years ago. Keep in mind 20 years ago he would have been 50.... Come to think of it the first hokage used a hidden jutsu deep forrest.... One of the jutsu's that gave Madara and the 9 tailed fox trouble but Hiruzen still beat it. It's also said that the power of hashirama is myth like... If that is so than he should have been able to beat an aged Hiruzen with only half of his strength.
 
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Hiruzen got crushed by Obito instantly. /thread
 
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Didn't read. Edo Hiruzen should be stronger than prime hiruzen and yet he has shown nothing... once again. So let's just wait and see.
 

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Tobirama's clone that got to the ball of chakra before KCM Minato did and smashed it into Obito is stronger than Hiruzen by feats; he wouldn't be able to react to that speed.
 

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Didn't read. Edo Hiruzen should be stronger than prime hiruzen and yet he has shown nothing... once again. So let's just wait and see.

Edo stronger than prime.... hmmm I doubt it what made you believe that? Also if Prime Hiruzen has shown nothing then what gives you a basis to make a conclusion about his strength? Remember he was bought back as an old man. Just because his chakara regenerates doesn't mean he has an abundant resource to where he can use large amounts at once to do big jutsu's. He basically has the same amount of chackra only it will come back quickly. You probably did read you just can't come up for a good excuse to why the two "strongest" hokage's couldn't beat hiruzen at his age.
 

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Hiruzen > Narutoverse.
He solos everyone no dif with only shuriken and fireball jutsu, next chapter he'll solo Juubito with his bankai.
Believe it!
































Nah, he's fodder.
 

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Hiruzen got crushed by Obito instantly. /thread


Your point is ?

Who wouldnt get smashed up by obito right now? Unlike Tobirama ,Minato, Sasuke,Naruto he didn't have back up support no Kg or Tail beast power

Juubito would have one shotted KCM naruto if Sasuke hadn't gone saved him? Or how about when Minato had to warp both naruto & Sasuke out of the way , Lets not forget KCM Minato who was rescued by Tobirama?

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Please bring all the facts next time
 

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Prime Hiruzen has no feats. All we know that he couldn't use his strongest technique, the Reaper Death Seal. Which makes him basically weaker then the old Hiruzen.
 

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Prime Hiruzen has no feats. All we know that he couldn't use his strongest technique, the Reaper Death Seal. Which makes him basically weaker then the old Hiruzen.

Well if he did use it in his prime he would have died. Doesn't make much sense.
 

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Prime Hiruzen has no feats. All we know that he couldn't use his strongest technique, the Reaper Death Seal. Which makes him basically weaker then the old Hiruzen.

prime Hiruzen had more chakra therefore he had acces to more jutsus
saying rds was his strongest move is absurd since 1 during his fight with Oro he was limited to jutsus which don't require much chakra 2 he fought edos so non-sealing jutsus would have been useless
 

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Wait and see, Hiruzen may not just be the fodder hokage!
 

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prime hiruzen is no match for hashi madara {naruto and kurama} minato itachi kisame

heck konan secret jutsu destroy him
 

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A prime Hiruzen no way? Sigh if only we could se that.
 

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prime hiruzen is no match for hashi madara {naruto and kurama} minato itachi kisame

heck konan secret jutsu destroy him

What do you know about a prime Hiruzen Sarutobi or his Jutsu? Keep in mind Hiruzen already beat two hokage's at age 70 who even though where not at full chackra where facing a near 70 year old hokage who the anbu mentioned could not make clones because of his current chakara and still managed to beat them even when the first hokage used his Forrest jutsu.
 

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We haven't seen any feats from him, so his crap until proven otherwise.
 

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Nah Edo Hiruzen is just immortal old hiruzen.. Prime Hiruzen is the strongest ninja in the series.. No one can beat Shadow Clone RasenKaton Shuriken... or FTG V4
 

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No feats besides defeating both 1st and 2nd hokage at his age.
 

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We haven't seen any feats from him, so his crap until proven otherwise.

So we must assume a character is bad because they have not shown their abilities yet? Then all characters before we saw what they could do should have been considered crap, including Hashirama and Madara. Ignore the authors hype because he is simply a liar who states that his characters are powerful although we all know they are not until proven, right?
 
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