Denying a Prime Hiruzens stength

[Cloudis1]

I also disagree with you saying that he is being denied power, I rarely see people talking about him like they do other ninja on here. Maybe it's just that no one cares.

 

[Sageof7Path]

But the problem is you have no proof how much stronger hiruzen is... How much he is capable of its just you guessing he could have been just abit faster and had abit more stamina and chakra ...

You also don't know how much stronger hashirama is (current hashirama Edo) who is showing op techs sm ect hiruzen has nothing on him unless you can tell me what he can even do to hurt hashirama ? And that Edo is still not at full power

And the oro thing .... Just before hiruzen used it Orochimaru said 'Show it to me' what else does that mean the same fight you link watch it and you will see

I guess you're the type of person who says Sakura > sasori and sm Naruto > pain right ?


Btw your arguement also works against you what proof is there that prime hiruzen could beat any current top 5 ?
Minato in that position could have done the same and ended up sealing Orochimaru along with him

And only reason is because you're using that fight to try say say hiruzen > hashirama and Tobirama

Let me guess hiruzen also beats kabuto ,madara,bm Naruto,ems sasuke,nagato,obito aswell? Hell this prime hiruzen also beats sage of six paths since he is so strong He doesn't exist , there is absolutely no information on him besides him being better than is older self other than that that hiruzen is pure speculation as you say... For all we know ems madara could beat prime hiruzen ( I am not saying he can sice I don't know how strong hiruzen is)

Please though carry on believing hiruzen is untouchable ill just tell you with his current feats even tsunade shits on him
You seem to know how strong this prime is though please tell me so i don't underrate him

Thank you for taking the point that I'm trying to make and accusing me of what you and everyone else on Naruto Base does. That was my point initially that none of you can bring up any evidence about A PRIME 3rd hokage. The only evidence we have even close to being able to predict how strong Hiruzen Sarutobi was in his prime was his fight with Orochimaru and the two hokages both of which he defeated. You seem to make up excuses for their losses. It's like a kid who wont except that a certain wrestler lost will sit their and make up a million random use less excuses until they can convenes themselves that what they are saying is true.

Also you are acting objective as if you're un biased saying you don't know if Madara could beat a prime Hiruzen because Minato beat him? Do you recall you saying this? Check your very 1st post up here. "Hiruzen prob wont be able to beat minato prime or not" So obviously this whole time you have been lying contradicting yourself and making up random excuses and making up speculations of orochimarus mood and the third hokage's "will power to enhance your argument.

I never said Hiruzen Sarutobi was untouchable but honestly you believe he can't touch anyone. You've been lying and trying to convince yourself this whole time. You started out showing your true colors but then trying to act like mr. unbias. You can't change it.

Now Hiruzen Sarutobi in his prime is undoubtedly on the level of the two other hokages hashi and tobirama senju. Just what he was able to do at his current age and limitations indicates that he was on the higher end of the hokage status. Don't forget that Orochimaru was a sannin level ninja at the time where he was discovered. Did you see the respect he showed Hiruzen before he ran away. He said he figured someone like Hiruzen would have been able to find out about him and he's didn't try to fight Hiruzen because he knew it would be futile. Keep in mind Orochimaru WAS a sannin at this time. And Hiruzen was in his late 50's. So to have the power to make light work of a sannin level ninja most means he's not a weak hokage like you try to claim Hiruzen is. Also indicating that his Prime is WAY stronger than his current age.

 

[Sageof7Path]

prime hiruzen would still get murked by

tobirama
hashirama
itachi
madara
sasuke
naruto

Explain why or get lost.

 

[Smd]

Explain why or get lost.

tobirama speed is enuff to beat him, if not edo tensei

hashirama needs no exp

itachi genjutsu

madara needs no exp

sasuke amatersu

naruto kcm

 

[Sageof7Path]

tobirama speed is enuff to beat him, if not edo tensei

hashirama needs no exp

itachi genjutsu

madara needs no exp

sasuke amatersu

naruto kcm

Thanks for the in site now bring up some facts about a prime Hiruzen.

 

[LegendaryAce]

I won't get started on minato but hiruzens speed isn't enough - unless hiruzen also> minato in speed

Me unbiased ? No I am not i am biased towards my fav character like you are to hiruzen

You haven't answered me yet

Is Sakura > sasori? And do you actually believe current Tobirama and hashirama would lose to hiruzen ? Do you really think so? If so I find it laughable

They were sealed yes but Orochimaru was controlling them .. So don't see why that matters anyway

YOUR ARGUEMENT WORKS TWO WAYS YOU HAVE NO PROOF HOW MUCH STRONGER HE WAS IN HIS PRIME SO IT'S IRRELEVANT WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT PRIME HIRUZEN

Hashirama + Tobirama not being controlled would smash hiruzen to bits heck mokuton clone is enough

But again tell me how he beats anyone in the top 5

 

[BasedRikudo]

Part 1 senju brother are not the same as part 2 senju brothers

 

[Ovan]

He will prove himself in a due time.

 

[startup97]

He will prove himself in a due time.

The problem arises when people say that he won't!