Kirin is a Senjutsu !

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senjutsu no it's not,because senjutsu users integrate natural energy in their bodies and mix it with their chakra to use their jutsus(which sasuke didn't).
might work on obito yes,why because the fact that is composed of natural energy and that is the factor that made it possible to attack obito,not the normal chakra.

 

[Honord Sage]

Natural lightning control by Chakra that is what Kirin is not Senjutsu. Basically Sasuke uses His Chakra to lasso colds full of lightning and redirecting it to the target with His chakra and it takes time to do so. Compare to what the Juubi did with Lightning and tornados in previous chapters it's a water pistol vs A fire hose.

 

[osba]

As much as you'd like for it to be, it isn't.

Senpou was specially reserved for a few characters. However, it is possible that Naruto can pass out nature chakra like he did with Kurama's chakra.

if he did that would turn them into stone statues -_-

 

[Ahmed1993]

Compare to what the Juubi did with Lightning and tornados in previous chapters it's a water pistol vs A fire hose.

The power of Kirin depend on the amount of cumulonimbus ( lightning clouds ) in the sky
And beside if a normal Rasengan can hurt him then so does Kirin

 

[kiddish]

Well the earthstyle jutsu's are senjutsu's too?
and Hashirama's wood to coooll

 

[Draxus]

You can argue that it is natural energy, but it doesn't mix natural energy w/ physical energy. Most importantly Sasuke is NOT a sage, so no... no it isn't a senjutsu.

Also... people need to stop talking about it, cuz the technique needs way too much set up to work. I've heard people say all he has to do is spam ama in the sky to make a thundercloud, but even if that was true it would not be on the same scale as the one he used on Itatchi.

 

[osba]

You can argue that it is natural energy, but it doesn't mix natural energy w/ physical energy. Most importantly Sasuke is NOT a sage, so no... no it isn't a senjutsu.

Also... people need to stop talking about it, cuz the technique needs way too much set up to work. I've heard people say all he has to do is spam ama in the sky to make a thundercloud, but even if that was true it would not be on the same scale as the one he used on Itatchi.

ACTUALLY he is a dilluted sage when he uses his cursemark

 

[howequals]

The OP is butthurt cause Naruto shitted on Sasuke by figuring out how to hit Obito and then executing.

Sasuke is not a Sage. Kirin is not senjutsu. Get over it.

I'm sure Kishi will have Sasuke figure out some way to be effective though.

 

[Mephew D Kensei]

Kirin is not a senjutsu coz senjutsu is an attack that sage chakra, which Kirin does not. The real question is weather Kirin will harm Juubito as sage art rasengan did, -well it can as the result is a pseudo-senjutsu/senjutsu-mimickary attack. Why I say it wld work is coz the Kirin has little chakra in it which is what I think Juubito is disrupting in ninjutsu and when chakra removed the attack is therefore useless.

 

[adeshina365]

Kirin is not a senjutsu coz senjutsu is an attack that sage chakra, which Kirin does not. The real question is weather Kirin will harm Juubito as sage art rasengan did, -well it can as the result is a pseudo-senjutsu/senjutsu-mimickary attack. Why I say it wld work is coz the Kirin has little chakra in it which is what I think Juubito is disrupting in ninjutsu and when chakra removed the attack is therefore useless.

Agreed. This is what I'm thinking right now.

 

[Mr Hiru]

Here is why :

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Senjutsu chakra as stated above = Natural energy + Physical energy + Spiritual energy.
Normal chakra = Physical energy + Spiritual energy.
Kirin = Natural energy + Sasuke's chakra for shaping it into a dragon.

Sasuke isn't a sage but he does have a Senjutsu attack

You may say that its classified as Ninjutsu ,but the manga contradicts it.

One last thing , the power of Kirin depend on the amount of cumulonimbus ( lightning clouds ) in the sky.

Thanks for reading.

- I agree on the fact that Senjutsu is the control of Spiritual, Physical and Natural Energy (balanced).
- I agree on the fact that Kirin is a technique powered by Natural Energy.
- I agree on the fact that Sasuke able to control the direction of the Thunder with his own chakra.

- I disagree on Kirin being Senjutsu, since Senjutsu makes a combination of a balanced form of Spiritual, Physical and Natural energy inside the Body of the Sage. Kirin doesn't work that way, Kirin doesn't make a perfect balance of these energies, it is not made inside the Body of the Sage, the amount of chakra used by the user is minimal compared to the power of the Nature used to power the technique...

Of course, I think Kirin has the potential to damage Obito since it exceeds in Natural Energy, but I can't categorize it in the Senjutsu category given the manga pages you put and the facts I'm stating.

 

[adeshina365]

Well, Kirin uses narutal energy, don't see why it shouldn't work but I wouldn't say it's Senjutsu.

Yep.

- I agree on the fact that Senjutsu is the control of Spiritual, Physical and Natural Energy (balanced).
- I agree on the fact that Kirin is a technique powered by Natural Energy.
- I agree on the fact that Sasuke able to control the direction of the Thunder with his own chakra.

- I disagree on Kirin being Senjutsu, since Senjutsu makes a combination of a balanced form of Spiritual, Physical and Natural energy inside the Body of the Sage. Kirin doesn't work that way, Kirin doesn't make a perfect balance of these energies, it is not made inside the Body of the Sage, the amount of chakra used by the user is minimal compared to the power of the Nature used to power the technique...

Of course, I think Kirin has the potential to damage Obito since it exceeds in Natural Energy, but I can't categorize it in the Senjutsu category given the manga pages you put and the facts I'm stating.

Excellent post and this is what I'm thinking is true at the moment.

 

[Cooh]

Well, Kirin uses narutal energy, don't see why it shouldn't work but I wouldn't say it's Senjutsu.

 

[AzR]

kirin = natural energy + some chakra from sasuke...

senjutsu = natural energy + physical energy + spiritual energy

so from what i see here....senjutsu is the product of the 3 ingredients.... but kirin mixed up 1 ingredient which is natural energy with a product thats already molded by physical and spritual energy which is chakra...so i dont see the consistency here..

 

[AzR]

Well, Kirin uses narutal energy, don't see why it shouldn't work but I wouldn't say it's Senjutsu.

it might work as the natural element itself because the lightning can damage anyone.... intangible natural energy needed to be collected cant do shitz to someone..... and i dont think kirin can be classify as senjutsu...its just inconsistent with kishi's fact..

 

[Reidara]

Kirin is like the rasenshuriken... :| chakra manipulation with an added nature. Sasuke used fire style to adjust the atmosphere into creating lightning (because he did not have the chakra to do so) and then manipulated the lightning into the jutsu like a lightning natured shinobi does. There's no link to senjutsu at all.

 

[King Of Pop]

its not a senjutsu but it shuld work against obito as others have stated

 

[raziel777]

True, but the natural energy component of Senjutsu is what's allowing it to harm Obito (logical deduction). With this being the case, Kirin should be capable of harming Juubito as it's Natural energy.

Nope, it's the mix of all the components that can harm Obito, the final result of mixing matural energy and chakra : SENJUTSU

 

[Mr Hiru]

Nope, it's the mix of all the components that can harm Obito, the final result of mixing matural energy and chakra : SENJUTSU

Well, the truth is that this is still a possibility, and you might be right too.

But if Kishi shows us that Kirin does as much (or maybe more) damage as a Senjutsu Rasengan, then we will prove that what damaged Obito is Natural Energy and not the Mix of the Three components.

 

[Honord Sage]

The power of Kirin depend on the amount of cumulonimbus ( lightning clouds ) in the sky
And beside if a normal Rasengan can hurt him then so does Kirin

Wind blows away and scatters clouds thats a fact, Strong win no lightning over target.