Minato is still a stronger Hokage than Tobirama.

[Nikes]

plz give me full details on how a fight will go between the both..

I'd like to know, how you picture the fight happening

Feeling each other out.

Minato setting up FTG field.

Tobirama and Minato play s/t tag.

Minato gets tired of games and summons a huge toad. Game over.

 

[Penguin]

That was troll comment.

Glad we met a middle ground. Jin and Kin>Tobirama and 2nd Raikage.

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How can u say that he is smarter than Minato....?

Minato have been brain dead ever since he realized that the masked man is Obito he is no condition of observng surrondngs...and how can this chapter proves that he is smarter than Minato....?

Beng dumb dosen't change the fact that he is one of the smartest charecter in the series......!


Minato didn't used KCM when he senced Naruto's chakra and he senced that enmy even b4 Kakashi ,he is just testng his team's trackng skill ,Minato sayng smthng like "Nic Kakashi" wil prove that he already aware of enmy arround them....

I have to admit that these feat's aren't enough to prove Minato is a Sensor until some one say's that he is one.......

Did I say he was dumb? I said Tobirama is more intelligent. Minato is top 5 intelligence.

Stop. I'm telling you this for your own good.
You did just what I said you would. And once again, I have to prove you wrong.
MINATO IS A SENSOR. UNDENIABLE PROOF, BOI.

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Now tell me that's not accurate.
Now tell me KCM doesn't allow one to sense emotions and general chakra.
Now tell me BM doesn't heighten those senses even further, with the cooperation of a bijuu.
Tell me. I'm waiting.

First off, Minato does not have BM. Just saying!

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[Avinash012]

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Did I say he was dumb? I said Tobirama is more intelligent. Minato is top 5 intelligence.



First off, Minato does not have BM. Just saying!

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Iam askng u to telme what exactly make's u think tat Tobirama is more Intelgnt than Minato....?

 

[Penguin]

Iam askng u to telme what exactly make's u think tat Tobirama is more Intelgnt than Minato....?

He found Rikudobito's weakness, which Minato did not. He has superior analytical abilities as he has made most plans in the battle so far. Tell me how Minato is more intelligent?

 

[Tobby17]

Feeling each other out.

Minato setting up FTG field.

Tobirama and Minato play s/t tag.

Minato gets tired of games and summons a huge toad. Game over.

Ok, I get it now, you're a troll..

 

[GrayParadise]

First off, Minato does not have BM. Just saying!

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Uh, no. If you want to debate with me you're going to have to provide your own arguments, not link me to a year-old thread. Can't even use your own arguments, smh.

And no, there's no denying it. I don't care what some 'NarutoWiki' page says about it. Minato became aware of an enemy attack before they announced themselves or shown themselves. There's no getting around it. Minato has sensing.

And as you can see, you didn't deny that KM allows for heightened sensing, and gives the sensless sensing abilities. No getting around it, Minato has sensing one way or another.

 

[Vandenreich]

Iam askng u to telme what exactly make's u think tat Tobirama is more Intelgnt than Minato....?

Recent chapters. And the fact that Tobirama created jutsus.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

This debate will probably never end.


Well regardless of which way it really is Minato could really use a hand right about now.

Or an Arm Lol

 

[Penguin]

Uh, no. If you want to debate with me you're going to have to provide your own arguments, not link me to a year-old thread. Can't even use your own arguments, smh.

And no, there's no denying it. I don't care what some 'NarutoWiki' page says about it. Minato became aware of an enemy attack before they announced themselves or shown themselves. There's no getting around it. Minato has sensing.

And as you can see, you didn't deny that KM allows for heightened sensing, and gives the sensless sensing abilities. No getting around it, Minato has sensing one way or another.

Your mad because I found an argument that proved you wrong, and you are saying that it does not count because I did not write it? :leaf: Hysterical.

He found their presence using a tracking technique, not a sensing.

Edo Minato can sense, not alive Minato. Alive Minato has no access to KCM.

Or an Arm Lol

Lol nice one liner.

 

[calderra]

but tobirama is one heck of a guy though

 

[Nikes]

He found Rikudobito's weakness, which Minato did not. He has superior analytical abilities as he has made most plans in the battle so far. Tell me how Minato is more intelligent?

Granted Minato is traumatized..

That plays an important role in Minato not seeing it.

 

[Penguin]

Granted Minato is traumatized..

That plays an important role in Minato not seeing it.

Granted, but Minato should not be traumatized still.

 

[Aertes]

No, wrong.
FTG is better.
He's faster on feet.
KCM.
BM.
Rasengan.
Chakra arms.
Monstrous chakra banks.
More shadow clones.
Heightened senses to the nth degree.
And seal that blocks all attacks and opens up behind him.

All those are feats Minato obtained after his death. I don't see how valid is to make such a comparison with techiques that can only be used under those circuimstances. Non edo Minato has non of that, while Tobirama still has all his feats.
Also, Tobirama proved to be a better sensor than Minato. He sensed Naruto SM while Minato had to watch it before his eyes to understand.
Last chapters place Tobirama above Minato imo.

 

[AARB]

At this point tobirama has provent to be far stronger than i imagined.He truly a genius for being able to create such high level S-rank techniques that eventually gave other ninjas fame for its usage (minato and ftg and kabuto and reanimation jutsu).Tobirama Senju has definitely moved up the ranks for me.objectively i think at this point there on the same level but that can all change we havent seen minato use any destructive offensive abilities which could be a real game changer.so far minato has only shown high level supplementary techniques and defensive techniques but because he has yet to show any high level destructive offensive techniques, i can understand why others underestimate and think so lowly of minato.WHEN he does show that side of him though,he will be silencing a lot of persons.but for now
Minato>tobirama

 

[Nikes]

Ok, I get it now, you're a troll..

No. I'm not going to explain that.

Granted, but Minato should not be traumatized still.

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If the mans mind isn't in the battle and he's questioning his whole life has a right to be traumitized.

 

[GrayParadise]

Your mad because I found an argument that proved you wrong, and you are saying that it does not count because I did not write it? :leaf: Hysterical.

He found their presence using a tracking technique, not a sensing.

Edo Minato can sense, not alive Minato. Alive Minato has no access to KCM.

No, what's hysterical is the way you googled 'Minato doesn't have sensing' and just linked me to the first site that came up, that thread. Gtfo dude, that thread ws over a year old, waaay before you even signed up, and you didn't even read it. I know you didn't [and are just struggling] because at the bottom of the page, it says plain as day, "■After gaining control of the Nine-Tails' chakra, Naruto has displayed the Nine-Tails' ability to sense others' presence by detecting negative emotions, an ability Mito Uzumaki, a former jinchūriki of the Nine-Tails also had and something that Kisame stated other sensors cannot do.[17]" And woah woah woah... what's that? A jinchuuriki has special sensing abilities? Abilities that non sensors have access to? Hmmm...

Woah hold up wait a minute hold the phone. What was Minato again? Something that began ith a J... oh yeah, that's right, a Jinchuuriki. His own [and your own] proof is contradicting what even you're trying to say. You're lame 'proof' of a thread is outdated son. a year ago.

And that last point was a gg worthy line. Now you're backed up against the wall and giving me the classic 'live Minato can't use KCM'. K cool. Yes he can. He's a full grown adult capable of hosting that beast. If Gaara who was still inside his mother's womb can bare a beast, a full grown Minato can, especially given his plot role. If a pre-teen Bee can host a beast, then so can Minato. GG you.

 

[Avinash012]

He found Rikudobito's weakness, which Minato did not. He has superior analytical abilities as he has made most plans in the battle so far. Tell me how Minato is more intelligent?

I have already mentioned that earlier, Minato is in a state of mental breakdown and he is in no state of observng surroundngs....!

Tobirama had more knwldge than Minato since Minato died arround 21-25 and Tobirama died arroung 40-50....

he atleast had 20 years more experience that Minato

Naruto is the one to first realize that the attack of Gamakichi didn't vanished

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after a fraction of sec's Tobirama realized it and by that time Naruto comeup with a plan already

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After sensng senjutsu chakra from Naruto Tobirama realized Naruto's plan that Senjutsu chakra wil work on OBito

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Then he reacted accordngly.....Actually Tobirama only observed abt the attack he didn't knw abt senjutsu stuf until Naruto entered SM

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Naruto is the one to realize all these things faster than Tobirama ....

By ur logic Naruto is smarter than Tobirama right...?

This chapter never proved that Tobirama is smarter than Minato......

They both are top dog's when it come's to inteligence department u can't compare them just bcoz of one or 2 impressive feets....

Tobirama is more knwldgble than Minato due to his Experience not only Tobirama ..Sarutobi,Madara,Orochimaru,Jiraya and Hashirama are also above Minato when it come's to Knwldge........

 

[Smd]

sorry but no.

 

[Penguin]

No, what's hysterical is the way you googled 'Minato doesn't have sensing' and just linked me to the first site that came up, that thread. Gtfo dude, that thread ws over a year old, waaay before you even signed up, and you didn't even read it. I know you didn't [and are just struggling] because at the bottom of the page, it says plain as day, "■After gaining control of the Nine-Tails' chakra, Naruto has displayed the Nine-Tails' ability to sense others' presence by detecting negative emotions, an ability Mito Uzumaki, a former jinchūriki of the Nine-Tails also had and something that Kisame stated other sensors cannot do.[17]" And woah woah woah... what's that? A jinchuuriki has special sensing abilities? Abilities that non sensors have access to? Hmmm...

Woah hold up wait a minute hold the phone. What was Minato again? Something that began ith a J... oh yeah, that's right, a Jinchuuriki. His own [and your own] proof is contradicting what even you're trying to say. You're lame 'proof' of a thread is outdated son. a year ago.

And that last point was a gg worthy line. Now you're backed up against the wall and giving me the classic 'live Minato can't use KCM'. K cool. Yes he can. He's a full grown adult capable of hosting that beast. If Gaara who was still inside his mother's womb can bare a beast, a full grown Minato can, especially given his plot role. If a pre-teen Bee can host a beast, then so can Minato. GG you.

Jimmies have been rustled over a google. He's about to have a psycho Billy freak out!

Alive Minato cannot have KCM, because when Minato was in the Reaper Death Seal, he spent 16 years in there, more or less. During that time he mastered KCM. Alive Minato does not have it, Edo Minato does. Edo Minato can sense, alive Minato can not. Do you get the picture?

 

[Nikes]

All those are feats Minato obtained after his death. I don't see how valid is to make such a comparison with techiques that can only be used under those circuimstances. Non edo Minato has non of that, while Tobirama still has all his feats.
Also, Tobirama proved to be a better sensor than Minato. He sensed Naruto SM while Minato had to watch it before his eyes to understand.
Last chapters place Tobirama above Minato imo.

Technically he was only sealed. Stored away for later use.