[Debate] My Opinion of God

[-immortal-]

Re: "Why God Is a Jerk" By EnDash

you guys are just hypocrite because we ain't believing..you think you're the good when you're still the bad Lol
and at the end of you're life..you Reach that point that you realize that you could have been done other things then begging some bookz..
still didn't complete shit in your life

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[Ninja Hidden in the Leafs]

Re: "Why God Is a Jerk" By EnDash

when I said "you're" I wasn't speaking of you , I meant people in general.. and you weren't born religious.
you were born a human.. a human lives on earth just like other earthlings. religion happens to be included into human activity. people actually do things blindly btw .. every action doesn't take a thought to be performed..
unless you're going to say something about the brain's activity and sending signals to the rest of your body.

once again * you were born a human , you were not born religious*

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I was using myself as an example. Me and you had a problem on another thread you made where I clearly had shown that I was right and you were wrong. You are not understanding what I am saying. You are born human, BUT you are also born into a religious family for most people anyway. Your logic is trying to get rid of religion altogether like it never existed and than say that we are not born religious. You are wrong though about people doing things blindly. Yes people do things that they might have no experience therefore walking "blindly", but they do it because of some reason or another that leads them to do that specific thing. In other words quit arguing. lol

 

[Javaweb]

Re: "Why God Is a Jerk" By EnDash

C'mon dude. I agree it's also part if you lived your life healthy.. but no, Praying and believing god will help you has nothing to do with it. Why? Cause here is the fact again: People who don't want treatment and put their faith in gods hands will die.

That's on their decision. That's not the way God works. He puts as much effort as you put as much effort. If you think God gonna safe you and your not doing anything to safe yourself then God won't put much effort. It's good to believe in God but you can't depend on him for EVERYTHING

 

[EnDash]

Re: "Why God Is a Jerk" By EnDash

Satan did not tempt God. Yes I know this story well. But how can you say that Job cursed the day he was alive? You do not know Job. You cannot put words in his mouth or give him feeling he may or may not have had. I do not mean this in a mean way, but I do not think you are that old which means you need to grow up a little bit and mature. This way you may see the true meaning of the story.

it's always easy to say that people with diffrend or controvorsial beliefs are immature or are just children. maybe you prefer to think of me as a child instead of thinking i have merit to my words? it was written in the Book of Job in the Bible that Job was on his deathbed with his friends and he cursed the day he was born. i did not meet the person but according to the book which people form their believes by this is what happens. if you want to talk about the more "high level" idea to the stroy then please explain to me because i fail to see it. god allowes satan to give one of his biggest believers pain and suffering and when he no longer want to live he gives him twice everything that was taken from him. i want you to at least answer this, if god would not allow satan to take away all Job had, wouldn't Job suffer less? and isn't suffering less what we pray god for? yet from the story all i see is how god made one of his strong believers suffer to prove a point.

 

[foxyladyland]

Re: "Why God Is a Jerk" By EnDash

I agree with you,but on the other hand I can understand why people do that. Because they are week. They know they can't do something if someone is seek for example and then they find "hope" in God. It's just like believing in a lie,but without it you would go crazy.

I agree that it helps giving people hope and eventually self confidence .. it also could lead to people overly trying to depend on god. That could lead to *bad* things. People are often and too much taught only one side of things . they are taught to believe 100% in the religion and if they question it , its *bad* and they are going to *hell*. Real life exists beyond religion and people should be taught about Life more than just Religion.. I think.. ^_^

because God doesn't come down and talk to people they have to read and try to believe in him.. some people beg god to kill them because they hate the way life is. God / religious beliefs tend to lead to wanting everything to be perfect and people don't accept the way things really are lots of the time.

 

[EnDash]

Re: "Why God Is a Jerk" By EnDash

Satan did not tempt God. Yes I know this story well. But how can you say that Job cursed the day he was alive? You do not know Job. You cannot put words in his mouth or give him feeling he may or may not have had. I do not mean this in a mean way, but I do not think you are that old which means you need to grow up a little bit and mature. This way you may see the true meaning of the story.

it's always easy to say that people with diffrend or controvorsial beliefs are immature or are just children. maybe you prefer to think of me as a child instead of thinking i have merit to my words? it was written in the Book of Job in the Bible that Job was on his deathbed with his friends and he cursed the day he was born. i did not meet the person but according to the book which people form their believes by this is what happens. if you want to talk about the more "high level" idea to the stroy then please explain to me because i fail to see it. god allowes satan to give one of his biggest believers pain and suffering and when he no longer want to live he gives him twice everything that was taken from him. i want you to at least answer this, if god would not allow satan to take away all Job had, wouldn't Job suffer less? and isn't suffering less what we pray god for? yet from the story all i see is how god made one of his strong believers suffer to prove a point.

 

[Javaweb]

Re: "Why God Is a Jerk" By EnDash

you guys are just hypocrite because we ain't believing..you think you're the good when you're still the bad Lol
and at the end of you're life..you Reach that point that you realize that you could have been done other things then begging some bookz..
still didn't complete shit in your life

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You just go believe in that and watch where YOU'RE gonna end up. With you I put down the God stuff. It's just plain respect and you just don't have any

 

[Tobby17]

Re: "Why God Is a Jerk" By EnDash

as i said before, i believe there is a reasonalbe chance he exists. that means it's witihn reason that he exists. i also believe he is a jerk.

so then You DO believe in God, and the bible and Heaven and Hell?.. bcoz if you bliv in God, then you def bliv all these other things exist as well..

So you wanna go to hell?:dunno:

 

[Anonn]

Re: "Why God Is a Jerk" By EnDash

That's on their decision. That's not the way God works. He puts as much effort as you put as much effort. If you think God gonna safe you and your not doing anything to safe yourself then God won't put much effort. It's good to believe in God but you can't depend on him for EVERYTHING

so basically you are agreeing with me? lol.. You really put yourself in a tough spot.

 

[Kurama2012]

Re: "Why God Is a Jerk" By EnDash

Animals aren't bad..they live by nature Lol

and yes..it isnt my responsibility to look over her..i just show the way to look the fack over your child U_U

theirs a big difference between watching over a child and saving a child from drowning. how would you feel if it was your child and people act the way that you do

 

[Ninja Hidden in the Leafs]

Re: "Why God Is a Jerk" By EnDash

it's always easy to say that people with diffrend or controvorsial beliefs are immature or are just children. maybe you prefer to think of me as a child instead of thinking i have merit to my words? it was written in the Book of Job in the Bible that Job was on his deathbed with his friends and he cursed the day he was born. i did not meet the person but according to the book which people form their believes by this is what happens. if you want to talk about the more "high level" idea to the stroy then please explain to me because i fail to see it. god allowes satan to give one of his biggest believers pain and suffering and when he no longer want to live he gives him twice everything that was taken from him. i want you to at least answer this, if god would not allow satan to take away all Job had, wouldn't Job suffer less? and isn't suffering less what we pray god for? yet from the story all i see is how god made one of his strong believers suffer to prove a point.

2 things. I ask, "Why" did Job curse the day he was born. Go back and read. I'm not saying that people with different ideas are younger, judging by your feedback, I assume your a highschool student maybe 9th or 10th grade? Anyway, If God did not take away those things from Job, than yes, Job would have lived maybe a happier life. I ask you this though, where does it say that God "has" to take care of you. God is God, he gives and so he can take. We were not born to live our lives for ourselves, it is for the glory of God. At least that is what I believe.

 

[Sabaku No Gaara100]

Re: "Why God Is a Jerk" By EnDash

Lol, and we have another one who plans the problems of the world on to God simply because humanity can't take anything responsible upon themselves....as human we're the ones who make the choices in life because God gave us free wills and instead of doing the right things we choose to do the the wrong things such as lie,steal,kill,rape,start wars and even go so far as to slave one another....and why do we do this? simply because our own twisted minds enjoy it....tell me if you can sit there and judge God while humanity doe this? as humans we know it's easier to blame everything we can't handle upon...well, because he's the easiest do it with him and the is the truth honestly....i'm not going to sit here and disrespect you or say "you're go to hell" like some morns simply because i have no answer to your question and even if was to say such a thing to you....it might be me who's going hell because i came in between God and another being and try to rule out a judgement which have no right for.....with that being said...lets try take responsibility upon ourselves(humans) instead of taking the easier way of blaming things on God like we did most of our live time.

 

[Ninja Hidden in the Leafs]

Re: "Why God Is a Jerk" By EnDash

it's always easy to say that people with diffrend or controvorsial beliefs are immature or are just children. maybe you prefer to think of me as a child instead of thinking i have merit to my words? it was written in the Book of Job in the Bible that Job was on his deathbed with his friends and he cursed the day he was born. i did not meet the person but according to the book which people form their believes by this is what happens. if you want to talk about the more "high level" idea to the stroy then please explain to me because i fail to see it. god allowes satan to give one of his biggest believers pain and suffering and when he no longer want to live he gives him twice everything that was taken from him. i want you to at least answer this, if god would not allow satan to take away all Job had, wouldn't Job suffer less? and isn't suffering less what we pray god for? yet from the story all i see is how god made one of his strong believers suffer to prove a point.

2 things. I ask, "Why" did Job curse the day he was born. Go back and read. I'm not saying that people with different ideas are younger, judging by your feedback, I assume your a highschool student maybe 9th or 10th grade? Anyway, If God did not take away those things from Job, than yes, Job would have lived maybe a happier life. I ask you this though, where does it say that God "has" to take care of you. God is God, he gives and so he can take. We were not born to live our lives for ourselves, it is for the glory of God. At least that is what I believe.

 

[Hebi Sasuke]

Re: "Why God Is a Jerk" By EnDash

I agree that it helps giving people hope and eventually self confidence .. it also could lead to people overly trying to depend on god. That could lead to *bad* things. People are often and too much taught only one side of things . they are taught to believe 100% in the religion and if they question it , its *bad* and they are going to *hell*. Real life exists beyond religion and people should be taught about Life more than just Religion.. I think.. ^_^

because God doesn't come down and talk to people they have to read and try to believe in him.. some people beg god to kill them because they hate the way life is. God / religious beliefs tend to lead to wanting everything to be perfect and people don't accept the way things really are lots of the time.

That's true. But I guess that just depends on how were you raised and what kind of a person you are. I mean I can't say I'm a good believer,I never go to church nor do I care so much about it. But I guess I was raised in a way that I belive in something. Is it a god? Beats me. I guess people should just try to be nice and kind to each other,and don't whine about God,when sh*t happens. More important for me is that you respect and don't hate rather then how much time do you spend in Church.

 

[-immortal-]

Re: "Why God Is a Jerk" By EnDash

theirs a big difference between watching over a child and saving a child from drowning. how would you feel if it was your child and people act the way that you do

Ain't happing..cause why? i would watch my child when swimming..and not Making fun when you have a Child with..
U_U

 

[Javaweb]

Re: "Why God Is a Jerk" By EnDash

so basically you are agreeing with me? lol.. You really put yourself in a tough spot.

In what way did I agree with you please inform me

 

[-immortal-]

Re: "Why God Is a Jerk" By EnDash

You just go believe in that and watch where YOU'RE gonna end up. With you I put down the God stuff. It's just plain respect and you just don't have any

see...you are the bad why people hate this book stuff..i don't believe and ending up different?
sorry but you aint imortal and still die with pain like everyone else

 

[Javaweb]

Re: "Why God Is a Jerk" By EnDash

the reason i am here is god, everything that happend to me and other people is god. if god created everything he is a the reason for all the good and all the bad and should be rewarded for all the good AND punsihed for all the bad. people only like to remember the first.



yes, i believe in a very reasonable chance all of it exists, god and heaven and hell and spirits and all. i also 100% believe that if they do exist, i don't want anything to do with them as they are the worst enemy to humanity that ever existed. as i say if i could run away from it all i would but i can't. i am forced to live in this "faith". no matter how much i pray and bag for god to let me go and disapper he refuses. he doesn't deserve my worship or prayers.



as i said before, i believe there is a reasonalbe chance he exists. that means it's witihn reason that he exists. i also believe he is a jerk.

God isn't your worst enemy. The people who did it to you are your worst enemy

 

[Anonn]

Re: "Why God Is a Jerk" By EnDash

In what way did I agree with you please inform me

that you can't rely on god when you're fighting for your life. and he won't help you. no matter how much fate you put in him. He WON'T cure you. But that's something you'll never understand cause you are way to narrow minded to open your eyes and face reality that everything you do is based on your own actions. and that no god will every guide you in the right direction.

 

[EnDash]

Re: "Why God Is a Jerk" By EnDash

so then You DO believe in God, and the bible and Heaven and Hell?.. bcoz if you bliv in God, then you def bliv all these other things exist as well..

So you wanna go to hell?:dunno:

i resent the idea that i can't choose to live life my way without going to hell. I live by one rule: Don't hurt another person physicly or mentally directly or indirectly. Then should i be there with murderes and rapists in hell? because i disagree? just like Satan disagreed with god, satan was one of god's angels before that, he was pure and did not commited any sin. he was banished from heaven because he dared question god, he dared having his own opinion.

2 things. I ask, "Why" did Job curse the day he was born. Go back and read. I'm not saying that people with different ideas are younger, judging by your feedback, I assume your a highschool student maybe 9th or 10th grade? Anyway, If God did not take away those things from Job, than yes, Job would have lived maybe a happier life. I ask you this though, where does it say that God "has" to take care of you. God is God, he gives and so he can take. We were not born to live our lives for ourselves, it is for the glory of God. At least that is what I believe.

That is exactly why i am searching for my ability to disappear. WITHOUT going to hell or heaven. just stop existing, stop feeling good or bad, becoming a robot or better be erased from existence. If god creates me and creates my problems and suffering, i think it is right that he also fixes them. Job was not to blame for his suffering, did he sin? did he lied or was not truly believing? He was the prime example of what believers in god should be and he was punished for no cause. how is it fair that god creates the problems and leave us to fix them? take responsibility for your actions and doings oh mighty god.

That is why if i could i would choose to run away, no heaven no hell no purgatury nothing. no existence is better then this wretched existence.

and because you asked nicely i am 17 and 8 months, out of school *_*