[FE@R] Juubito's Black Hole Release: Analyzed

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I will proof-read this tommorow @__@

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Here I am just going to Analyzed Juubito's Black Hole Release, or so it is popularly called.​


Clearing the Air​

First off people seem to think that this is a mixture of all 5 Elements. People assume this because:

1) Rinnegan allows one to Master and use all 5 Nature Types
2) Being able to use 2 or More Nature Types qualifies one to used KKG, 3 is a KKT (Kekkie Tota')
3) And since BH Release has never been seen before it must be a mix of all 5?

But here is the Rub, the Rinnegan does allow one to master all 5 Nature Types, but it doesnt let one Master KKG. Which is this? Because to this day the only KKG we have seen any Rinnegan user use is the ones he was born with, this excludes Madara and Obito who use Mokuton but that is because they have Hashirama cells.

With that we see that it is unlikely for the Rinnegan to provide use of KKG, which makes sense as KKG have already been said to only be accessible to members of the clans said KKG pertains to.


Enter Juubi​

So the question is, can the Juubi use all KKG's?

Why do we think this??? Because its the Juubi, Duh, The Progenitor? Beginning and the End? Alpha and Ome; let me stop myself right there. To be completely honest I am not quite sure if the Juubi itself can use any Jutsu's. I dont think it can use any releases, I dont think he can use seals, I dont even think it can use Yin/Yang Release... Think about it, Do any the Tailed Beasts use Ninjutsu? No!

And since we know that the Rinnegan doesn't provide one with KKG either, the question remains, what is this Black Hole Release?

People want to bring this up in response to whether or not Juubito can mix Natures IE use KKG.

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But keep in mind that he says "probably" and only makes this conclusion based on the fact that it is similar to Oonoki's Dust Release which is a Kekkie Tota. Now I am not one to dismiss what a character says when they state something as a fact, but when they say "probably" and "looks similar too" then I take it with a grain of salt. Especially based on the above where I show that it is unlikely that the Rinnegan itself allows KKG/KKT or above.


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Anti-Matter Release?​

Could this not be a KKG but rather a new Element in itself? Anti-matter? Here are a few things you should consider.

1) Anti-Matter is matter, but rather than their atoms having an Electron like matter does, theirs have what is called a Positron, its like Bizzaro World. But the important thing is that it is Matter with an Opposite charge, and Opposites attract. Which could explain how Chibaku Tensei works.

2) Anti-Matter again has the Opposite Charge as Matter, and What happens when a Positive meets a Negative? They cancel each other out, Which is what happens when Anti-Matter and Matter come together, they both cease to exist. Which explains why Obito's Anti-Matter Release de-materializes everything in its path.

3) I am still not sure how he can control the attraction of the Anti-Matter, As even Nagato showed when he used it, while the Anti-Matter was in his hands it did not attract anything, it was only when he released it that it began to attract matter. But this is probably done with Chakra somehow, the same way Juubito controls the Shape and Size of it.

But check this out [ ]:

"- Yes. For storing small amounts of energy in an extremely compact way, antimatter is very useful. The energy density stored in antimatter is about 1 billion times higher than in batteries.

- But: the amount of antimatter that is produced each year in big accelerator labs such as CERN or Fermilab corresponds to an energy that would allow a 100 W light bulb shine for 15 minutes. "

It seems that Anti-Matter can hold a charge much like a Battery but about a billion times higher, which means you can crank up its attraction to the matter around it, or even turn it down, if one knew how. I believe Obito and Nagato do.

4) I believe it takes alot of chakra to upkeep these Anti-Matter Balls/Material, which is why we dont see extended use of the Technique by Rinnegan users, It took nearly all of Nagato remaining strenght just to use to form the ball.


Importance of Nothingness​

The Rinnegan has been linked to the Samsara which is where the Paths of Pain get their names. But then how does Nothingness/Emptiness come from?

A Key Budhist Teaching known as Sunyata [ ], Here is an excerpt [ ]:

"Emptiness is a key concept in Buddhist philosophy, or more precisely, in the ontology of Mahayana Buddhism. The phrase "form is emptiness; emptiness is form" is perhaps the most celebrated paradox associated with Buddhist philosophy. It is the supreme mantra."

"What is emptiness then? To understand the philosophical meaning of this term, let's look at a simple solid object, such as a cup. How is a cup empty? We usually say that a cup is empty if it does not contain any liquid or solid. This is the ordinary meaning of emptiness. But, is the cup really empty? A cup empty of liquids or solids is still full of air. To be precise, we must therefore state what the cup is empty of. Can a cup be empty of all substance? A cup in a vacuum does not contain any air, but it still contains space, light, radiation, as well as its own substance. Hence, from a physical point of view, the cup is always full of something. Yet, from the Buddhist point of view, the cup is always empty. The Buddhist understanding of emptiness is different from the physical meaning. The cup being empty means that it is devoid of inherent existence."


Conclusion​

I believe that Black Hole Release is actually Anti-Matter Tech. I wont act like I am the first one to think this, but I think I do a fair job in explaining why I believe so.

Thanks to " " for proposing the idea.

Enjoy the Read
 
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Um I read like the first bit and em...... he's using the Juubi's power to use that, not the Rinnegan... and also, in the manga, one of the guys said that he'd have to be using at least 4 elements..
 

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it is merely concentrated chakra jesus guys... if it were to be black matter it should have imploded.. what's it with everyone stating it is black matter? xD
 
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Didn't Shukaku (One tail) use Wind Nature? Wind Release ... Indeed Naruto Chapter 135 :dunno:



So by looking at that we can assume that the Juubi could most likely use Jutsu as the Tailed Beasts are just separated forms of the Juubi / 10 Tails
 
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I will proof-read this tommorow @__@

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Here I am just going to Analyzed Juubito's Black Hole Release, or so it is popularly called.​


Clearing the Air​

First off people seem to think that this is a mixture of all 5 Elements. People assume this because:

1) Rinnegan allows one to Master and use all 5 Nature Types
2) Being able to use 2 or More Nature Types qualifies one to used KKG, 3 is a KKT (Kekkie Tota')
3) And since BH Release has never been seen before it must be a mix of all 5?

But here is the Rub, the Rinnegan does allow one to master all 5 Nature Types, but it doesnt let one Master KKG. Which is this? Because to this day the only KKG we have seen any Rinnegan user use is the ones he was born with, this excludes Madara and Obito who use Mokuton but that is because they have Hashirama cells.

With that we see that it is unlikely for the Rinnegan to provide use of KKG, which makes sense as KKG have already been said to only be accessible to members of the clans said KKG pertains to.


Enter Juubi​

So the question is, can the Juubi use all KKG's?

Why do we think this??? Because its the Juubi, Duh, The Progenitor? Beginning and the End? Alpha and Ome; let me stop myself right there. To be completely honest I am not quite sure if the Juubi itself can use any Jutsu's. I dont think it can use any releases, I dont think he can use seals, I dont even think it can use Yin/Yang Release... Think about it, Do any the Tailed Beasts use Ninjutsu? No!

And since we know that the Rinnegan doesn't provide one with KKG either, the question remains, what is this Black Hole Release?


Hint​

Look very closely!

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Does that Black Ball look like anything else to you?

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Anti-Matter Release?​

Could this not be a KKG but rather a new Element in itself? Anti-matter? Here are a few things you should consider.

1) Anti-Matter is matter, but rather than their atoms having an Electron like matter does, theirs have what is called a Positron, its like Bizzaro World. But the important thing is that it is Matter with an Opposite charge, and Opposites attract. Which could explain how Chibaku Tensei works.

2) Anti-Matter again has the Opposite Charge as Matter, and What happens when a Positive meets a Negative? They cancel each other out, Which is what happens when Anti-Matter and Matter come together, they both cease to exist. Which explains why Obito's Anti-Matter Release de-materializes everything in its path.

3) I am still not sure how he can control the attraction of the Anti-Matter, As even Nagato showed when he used it, while the Anti-Matter was in his hands it did not attract anything, it was only when he released it that it began to attract matter. But this is probably done with Chakra somehow, the same way Juubito controls the Shape and Size of it.

But check this out [ ]:

"- Yes. For storing small amounts of energy in an extremely compact way, antimatter is very useful. The energy density stored in antimatter is about 1 billion times higher than in batteries.

- But: the amount of antimatter that is produced each year in big accelerator labs such as CERN or Fermilab corresponds to an energy that would allow a 100 W light bulb shine for 15 minutes. "

It seems that Anti-Matter can hold a charge much like a Battery but about a billion times higher, which means you can crank up its attraction to the matter around it, or even turn it down, if one knew how. I believe Obito and Nagato do.

4) I believe it takes alot of chakra to upkeep these Anti-Matter Balls/Material, which is why we dont see extended use of the Technique by Rinnegan users, It took nearly all of Nagato remaining strenght just to use to form the ball.


Importance of Nothingness​

The Rinnegan has been linked to the Samsara which is where the Paths of Pain get their names. But then how does Nothingness/Emptiness come from?

A Key Budhist Teaching known as Sunyata [ ], Here is an excerpt [ ]:

"Emptiness is a key concept in Buddhist philosophy, or more precisely, in the ontology of Mahayana Buddhism. The phrase "form is emptiness; emptiness is form" is perhaps the most celebrated paradox associated with Buddhist philosophy. It is the supreme mantra."

"What is emptiness then? To understand the philosophical meaning of this term, let's look at a simple solid object, such as a cup. How is a cup empty? We usually say that a cup is empty if it does not contain any liquid or solid. This is the ordinary meaning of emptiness. But, is the cup really empty? A cup empty of liquids or solids is still full of air. To be precise, we must therefore state what the cup is empty of. Can a cup be empty of all substance? A cup in a vacuum does not contain any air, but it still contains space, light, radiation, as well as its own substance. Hence, from a physical point of view, the cup is always full of something. Yet, from the Buddhist point of view, the cup is always empty. The Buddhist understanding of emptiness is different from the physical meaning. The cup being empty means that it is devoid of inherent existence."


Conclusion​

I believe that Black Hole Release is actually Anti-Matter Tech. I wont act like I am the first one to think this, but I think I do a fair job in explaining why I believe so.

Thanks to " " for proposing the idea.

Enjoy the Read
Not too sure on the anti-matter side of things, to be honest it wouldn't look black probably just like any other matter; anti-matter is just regular energy within an "anti-structure" its not anti-energy. Every time it annihilates another lump of matter it wouldn't just destroy the matter. The weapon constructed from antimatter would also be annihilated at the same time ergo, every time Obito used it it would disappear for a time. This doesn't happen, he plows through his enemies, the third's temporary death is a good example which we can see clearly, his weapon is still present after he destroys the thirds upper half. No it makes far more sense for this to be an extreme form of gravity manipulation. Ergo the Deva path. One last thing about Antimatter, when it annihilates it releases the energy of both involved atoms in a blast of radiation, usually gamma rays. Though it can vary on how heavy the atoms annihilated are, ergo there might be a flash of light.

Great catch with the Chibaku tensei looking like the "black chakra", gave me an idea. A so called black hole release...It would make sense, the forces at the edge of a black hole render everything down to its smallest components, perhaps even beyond that. So in essence the Deva path should be capable of granting this level of gravity manipulation with sufficient chakra which Obito now has; the space that it is used within appears to be black to all observers because no light can escape the "gravitational" pull of the technique. But Obito must be exerting equal chakra to maintain and control the technique...Honestly it seems like such a hack technique as to be unstoppable.

The third only interpreted the technique as its closest similar relation which is dust release. However as you say it has similar capabilities but the method of execution is so radically different as to be unrecognizable.

However while the annihilating weapons he uses can be explained with Deva path, the exploding orbs seem to be more along the line of mini bijudama. Hes gained the same ability as Naruto to create them in human form. However I'm not entirely convinced that they are mini-Bijudama myself, the fact that it seems to light up prior to its explosion isnt like other Bijudama we have seen. Hmm It could be Anti-matter bombs, With his Deva path he could quite easily, if he is making weapons out of gravity manipulation, contain Anti-matter within a sphere of gravitational force.
 
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Actually sandaime said he was using MORE than 4 chakra nature's. Go look at the better translations, not mangapanda. The official viz translation says more than 4 also. Anyway, antimatter and matter destroy each other when they come into contact, but not like dust release, which is what the black balls do. They literally explode like an atomic bomb. Anti matter doesn't attract matter either. So the black balls kind of don't act like anti matter to be honest.
 
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Interesting ideas. Thanks for the credit, but I don't think I was the first to propose it either.

As to your idea about the Juubi possibly controlling all KKG and the Rinnegan providing access to all elements, I would say it is too much to assume he can manipulate ALL KKG, but then again, you can't assume its impossible either considering he is using the ultimate version right now. What I'm saying is that what he is using right now has to be a combination of all 5 because its his go-to technique. Even if he can control all others, why bother with them when this one is clearly the strongest? So again, it would be crazy to assume the Juubi can use ALL KKG, KKT, etc, but you also have to consider the possibility he can use them all considering he is using the ultimate version right now which might imply access to all others.....basically you can only conclude that the Juubi is the source of all the original power.

As to the Rinnegan, I think its clear that it took the 5 element part, but not the combination part. Like we already know, the Sharingan is only a portion of the Rinnegan and the Rinnegan is only a portion of the Juubi's eye, so it would make sense that an upgrade of the use of the 5 elements is being able to combine them all.... and perhaps every combination possible. As to the gravity tech, I think there is a clear subtle difference in the jutsus. As you can see Pain's version of the tech is not a perfect sphere, but a lumpy sphere. This may imply he does not have complete control like the sage did, or it could imply a different jutsu or a downgrade of the original Jutsu. The problem lies in Hiruzen's statement. If we were to ignore his words, it would be hard to argue its not an upgrade of Pain's tech, but with the 4+ element part, we have to separate the 2 entirely.

Ignoring the 4+ elemental thing for a moment, I think you and Valandil may be onto something, it seems like it is simply an extreme form of gravity manipulation more than anything. It would explain why the jutsu itself does not get annihilated on contact, how it can destroy so completely and its connection to Pain. However we know that Pain could not control KG, and certainly not the perfect version of it, so adding in the 4+ element thing makes this almost unsolvable at this point imo.
 

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1. Rinnegan has a black hole jutsu called chibaku tensei
2. Jiraya stated nagato mastered the 5 elements and yes they can there affinity element on there chose
3. Juubi can use his own dojustu and jutsus as shown last chapter
4. Its a alright theory
5. Speculations? You need facts ma friend

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Actually sandaime said he was using MORE than 4 chakra nature's. Go look at the better translations, not mangapanda. The official viz translation says more than 4 also. Anyway, antimatter and matter destroy each other when they come into contact, but not like dust release, which is what the black balls do. They literally explode like an atomic bomb. Anti matter doesn't attract matter either. So the black balls kind of don't act like anti matter to be honest.
Your statement sounds right, regarding the more than 4 element thing, but I think here-in lies the difference between how these sites translate. Think about it, if in the manga it stated 'more than 4 elements' then why did the author write it like that? There are only 5 elements so 'more than 4' doesn't simply imply 5, it directly means 5. So there is no point in Kishi writing 'more than 4' when that only concludes to 5. After reading this line, some translators probably thought about the same thing and believed that Kishi actually meant '4 or more' because why else would he include the number 4 in the statement unless he was leaving the final conclusion semi-cryptic.

I hope I got my point across but clearly the manga is not always 100% clear and sometimes slightly altered statements can make more logical sense to a reader, hence why some translators actually will change lines occasionally. I, of course, prefer pure translations, but in a case like this, why would Kishi say 'more than 4' when that is identical so simply saying 5? I still believe it combines all five, I just wanted to give my 2 cents on the translation part of the whole thing.
 
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Your statement sounds right, regarding the more than 4 element thing, but I think here-in lies the difference between how these sites translate. Think about it, if in the manga it stated 'more than 4 elements' then why did the author write it like that? There are only 5 elements so 'more than 4' doesn't simply imply 5, it directly means 5. So there is no point in Kishi writing 'more than 4' when that only concludes to 5. After reading this line, some translators probably thought about the same thing and believed that Kishi actually meant '4 or more' because why else would he include the number 4 in the statement unless he was leaving the final conclusion semi-cryptic.

I hope I got my point across but clearly the manga is not always 100% clear and sometimes slightly altered statements can make more logical sense to a reader, hence why some translators actually will change lines occasionally. I, of course, prefer pure translations, but in a case like this, why would Kishi say 'more than 4' when that is identical so simply saying 5? I still believe it combines all five, I just wanted to give my 2 cents on the translation part of the whole thing.
Yea I totally agree, it always sounded weird To me when there is only 5 elements total in the first place. that is the "official" translation though, I just checked my WSJ online, and he says "I suspect it's a combination of more than four changes in nature. This is more than a kekkai genkei, or even a kekkai touta!" That's the official translation, like the one that will be in the chapter in the English volume when it is released in book form. still weird though, why kishi would word it like that is beyond me.
 

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Not too sure on the anti-matter side of things, to be honest it wouldn't look black probably just like any other matter; anti-matter is just regular energy within an "anti-structure" its not anti-energy. Every time it annihilates another lump of matter it wouldn't just destroy the matter. The weapon constructed from antimatter would also be annihilated at the same time ergo, every time Obito used it it would disappear for a time. This doesn't happen, he plows through his enemies, the third's temporary death is a good example which we can see clearly, his weapon is still present after he destroys the thirds upper half. No it makes far more sense for this to be an extreme form of gravity manipulation. Ergo the Deva path. One last thing about Antimatter, when it annihilates it releases the energy of both involved atoms in a blast of radiation, usually gamma rays. Though it can vary on how heavy the atoms annihilated are, ergo there might be a flash of light.

Great catch with the Chibaku tensei looking like the "black chakra", gave me an idea. A so called black hole release...It would make sense, the forces at the edge of a black hole render everything down to its smallest components, perhaps even beyond that. So in essence the Deva path should be capable of granting this level of gravity manipulation with sufficient chakra which Obito now has; the space that it is used within appears to be black to all observers because no light can escape the "gravitational" pull of the technique. But Obito must be exerting equal chakra to maintain and control the technique...Honestly it seems like such a hack technique as to be unstoppable.

The third only interpreted the technique as its closest similar relation which is dust release. However as you say it has similar capabilities but the method of execution is so radically different as to be unrecognizable.

However while the annihilating weapons he uses can be explained with Deva path, the exploding orbs seem to be more along the line of mini bijudama. Hes gained the same ability as Naruto to create them in human form. However I'm not entirely convinced that they are mini-Bijudama myself, the fact that it seems to light up prior to its explosion isnt like other Bijudama we have seen. Hmm It could be Anti-matter bombs, With his Deva path he could quite easily, if he is making weapons out of gravity manipulation, contain Anti-matter within a sphere of gravitational force.
1) Light is merely the reflection we see from an object, so if the Anti-Matter object is absorbing the light then it would look black. Because the Anti-Matter is alot denser than it looks, this is also why he is able to extend it the way he does so easily, I believe the composition of Juubito's Anti-Matter to be an extreme supersaturation of plasma. Not to sure about the blast of radiation thing being seen with naked eyes.

2) Not sure what you mean

Other than that I liked everything else you said =D, great ideas

Actually sandaime said he was using MORE than 4 chakra nature's. Go look at the better translations, not mangapanda. The official viz translation says more than 4 also. Anyway, antimatter and matter destroy each other when they come into contact, but not like dust release, which is what the black balls do. They literally explode like an atomic bomb. Anti matter doesn't attract matter either. So the black balls kind of don't act like anti matter to be honest.
1) I didnt use Mangapanda, I used the NB Manga, if you have a different scan link it to me as I dont run around finding peoples evidence for them. Regardless the only reason he assumed it was a KKG is because both it and Oonoki's dematerialize Matter, that is it, one similarity does not = fact. Which is probably why he said "probably was more than 4"

2) When Antimatter and Matter annihilate they produce photons, idk what makes you think they explode like an atomic bomb, then again this is theoretical science so nothing is certain, but photons are the more likely end produce.

3) What makes you think anti matter doesnt attract matter?


Interesting ideas. Thanks for the credit, but I don't think I was the first to propose it either.

As to your idea about the Juubi possibly controlling all KKG and the Rinnegan providing access to all elements, I would say it is too much to assume he can manipulate ALL KKG, but then again, you can't assume its impossible either considering he is using the ultimate version right now. What I'm saying is that what he is using right now has to be a combination of all 5 because its his go-to technique. Even if he can control all others, why bother with them when this one is clearly the strongest? So again, it would be crazy to assume the Juubi can use ALL KKG, KKT, etc, but you also have to consider the possibility he can use them all considering he is using the ultimate version right now which might imply access to all others.....basically you can only conclude that the Juubi is the source of all the original power.

As to the Rinnegan, I think its clear that it took the 5 element part, but not the combination part. Like we already know, the Sharingan is only a portion of the Rinnegan and the Rinnegan is only a portion of the Juubi's eye, so it would make sense that an upgrade of the use of the 5 elements is being able to combine them all.... and perhaps every combination possible. As to the gravity tech, I think there is a clear subtle difference in the jutsus. As you can see Pain's version of the tech is not a perfect sphere, but a lumpy sphere. This may imply he does not have complete control like the sage did, or it could imply a different jutsu or a downgrade of the original Jutsu. The problem lies in Hiruzen's statement. If we were to ignore his words, it would be hard to argue its not an upgrade of Pain's tech, but with the 4+ element part, we have to separate the 2 entirely.

Ignoring the 4+ elemental thing for a moment, I think you and Valandil may be onto something, it seems like it is simply an extreme form of gravity manipulation more than anything. It would explain why the jutsu itself does not get annihilated on contact, how it can destroy so completely and its connection to Pain. However we know that Pain could not control KG, and certainly not the perfect version of it, so adding in the 4+ element thing makes this almost unsolvable at this point imo.
1) Was merely giving credit to the person I got the idea from, didnt say you were the original maker x__x

2) Could the Juubi have the ability? Sure, I simply assert that it is not the Rinnegans ability, and that it being the Juubi's ability seems unlikely, to me atleast.

3) I disagree when you say it is clear that it took 5 elements, but you make an extremely good point when you say that the Rinnegan is only a portion of the Juubi's eye.

4) Aha but if we are back to saying that this is a Rinnegan ability then you cannot say it is a mixture as the Rinnegan does not seem to be able to grant one use of KKG's.

5) Perhaps, I will let him chase that one down if he choses too, i for one think my thread still has a leg to stand on x__x, but I have always been hard headed.

1. Rinnegan has a black hole jutsu called chibaku tensei
2. Jiraya stated nagato mastered the 5 elements and yes they can there affinity element on there chose
3. Juubi can use his own dojustu and jutsus as shown last chapter
4. Its a alright theory
5. Speculations? You need facts ma friend

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1) Chibaku is not a black hole as things get sucked into a black hole, they do not hover around it.
2) What? I know the Rinnegan allows the use of all 5 elements, I say that myself.. what it doesnt do is allow use of KKG's
3) What are you talking about? What does this have to do with my thread
4) ???
5) ...?
 

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It explodes like an atomic bomb, but not in the same way. It produces so much radiation from gamma rays most likely, that it make the air around it super hot, so everything would be on fire also, and either because of that or not, creates a massive shockwave/blast that would destroy anything around it in a large area. It's destructive power is like an atomic bomb, but you need far less antimatter to achieve the same destructive power. and I don't know where you get that antimatter attracts matter.it's not a black hole, it doesn't have its own gravity. They have to suspend it in a vacuum and make it float with magnets or something so it doesn't touch matter, but it's not attracting matter. If it attracted matter even if they suspended it matter would want to go to it anyway, and you probably couldn't store it safely. Oh and go read my other post for exactly what sandaime said. He said I suspect not probably, and more than four, and greater than kekkei genkai, even a kekkei touta.
 
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