Current gaara vs current sasuke

[genii96]

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I hate when people use gaara feats with shakaku as if it would matter my arguement stand sasuke wins this Gaara hasit shown a sand defense like he did against deidara since he fought deidara sasuke susanoo arrow easily plow thru his sand with enton on the tips people seem to forget about enton Magatama witch could spread his enton very quickly also They guy who said sasuke would be burned with his own enton fools sasuke enton would burn the sand down all the sand that got touched with enton gaara removed it

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Gaara clealy attacks with new sand.
His sand can never block Amaterasu enton shot up towards Gaara Ama witch is near instant

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Gaara sand has only been shown to activate when projectile Objects Amaterasu seems as so fast it spawns on the body and also invisible untill its hits the object Gaara sand has no awearness of whats coming also i have predicted sasuke Ama is even Faster than lets say 2 tomoe sasuke had Amaterasu When he was fight naruto he couldnt really getting a beat on him or lock on him that naruto would have been easily to dodge his 2 tomoe Amaterasu however 3 tomoe sasuke would easily roast him

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his ems Amaterasu is indeed quicker added the quick defeat.

His Susanoo is being tooken down by any of gaaras techs as we seen on the last manga Gaara needed Onoki to make his sand lighter Witch made it look like a foggy misty sand smoke gaara obivously couldnt do it alone and Sasuke ribcage witch is mobile could dodge and tanked Gaaras hole arsenal and as for Gaara third eye & Sand dome His susanoo arrow easily plows thru it his chidori made it look like nothing

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And also sasuke Genjutsu is used more perfectly isnt on itachi level buts its good enough he easily caught deidara who prepared for it same with danzo and he didnt use eye contact on deidara

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As i was saying the 3rd eye will be useless its obviously Gaara's real eye and its open for anything As i said susanoo arrow goes thru dat sand dome and his sand will be way to slow to reacted His sand only withstood Madara susanoo sword because there were only 1/25th of there original power as hashirama mokuton clones was no match for Madara seeing how he fodderized them easily so tha feat is thrown out the window here not mention sasuke Raiton Abilities Enton would make Kirin not even seem Like a prep techs Gaara isnt defending against something that moves 1/1000 seconds

Gaara clearly isnt defending against that that is just 1 of many ways this could play also sasuke giant enton sword gaara defense is shitted on here Gamabunta was the size of shakaku those little hand things that wrapped deidara up in sasuke could escape from his hawk or use enton blade to slice right out of there its is far to big to not doe so its the size of Aoda or longer in Amaterasu being stoped by those rods was due to it being a fire/Ama subtance unlike his Enton arrow witch wont stop on something because its connected unto enton arrow witch shot out with nothing behind supporting it also gaara sand is no rods sasuke enton will overwhelm gaara eventually or gaara goes down faster by genjutsu or anything else since his 3rd eye is gone he cannot see and we seen Gaara cannot really detect anything thru his sand since deidara burns got in if his 3rd eye is gone he cannot see by then enton would have already killed him.

i hate it when people actually believe shukaku had anything to do with that. Shukaku wa s more of a problem,gaara pomised never to use shukaku again,he supressed it throughout. Him not using that sand shield dosent mean he cant use it,sasuke hasnt used kirin since itachi either,does that mean he cant do it again?,no.
Gaara blocked enton already,twice. Enton dosent burn his sand,it isnt spreading. Amaterasu is near instant ffrom short range,not long range,sand sphere covers all sides,so speed is moot,auto defence means awareness dosent matter. Gaara used the sand beneath madara to pull him out,not his gourd sand,and he dosent have to pull him out,hust crush his legs and kill him.
Saske destroying the 3rd eye wont make gaara come out of his sand dome,he would just make a new one.Arrows arent piercing the sand,chakra rods and rock pillars halted them.
sand clones distract sasukee and make more sand while gaara crushes him. those clones had full body susanoos,and paralyzed A with regular gen.danzo broke sasuke's tsuki.

 

[Unorthodox]

i hate it when people actually believe shukaku had anything to do with that. Shukaku wa s more of a problem,gaara pomised never to use shukaku again,he supressed it throughout. Him not using that sand shield dosent mean he cant use it,sasuke hasnt used kirin since itachi either,does that mean he cant do it again?,no.
Gaara blocked enton already,twice. Enton dosent burn his sand,it isnt spreading. Amaterasu is near instant ffrom short range,not long range,sand sphere covers all sides,so speed is moot,auto defence means awareness dosent matter. Gaara used the sand beneath madara to pull him out,not his gourd sand,and he dosent have to pull him out,hust crush his legs and kill him.
Saske destroying the 3rd eye wont make gaara come out of his sand dome,he would just make a new one.Arrows arent piercing the sand,chakra rods and rock pillars halted them.
sand clones distract sasukee and make more sand while gaara crushes him. those clones had full body susanoos,and paralyzed A with regular gen.danzo broke sasuke's tsuki.

Sasuke wont waste his time on a sand clone

the rods stoped an enton arrow not his susanoo arrow and they only stoped an enton arrow because the fire based if i could throw a fire spear at something it would stop in stick/burn the 1st thing it touches

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they arrow went thru the other side into the ground also sasuke chidori from part 1 pieced that sand sheild sasuke gets on hawk in cut that sand thing in half with his giant enton blade gaara dies also gaara isnt blocking Kirin

 

[genii96]

Sasuke wont waste his time on a sand clone

the rods stoped an enton arrow not his susanoo arrow and they only stoped an enton arrow because the fire based if i could throw a fire spear at something it would stop in stick/burn the 1st thing it touches

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they arrow went thru the other side into the ground also sasuke chidori from part 1 pieced that sand sheild sasuke gets on hawk in cut that sand thing in half with his giant enton blade gaara dies also gaara isnt blocking Kirin

if sasuke ignores the sand clone,then they simply ake more sand,and actually maniulate sand under his feet to kill him,ignoring them is a very bad idea.

True,i just noticed that,however,that means enton arrows help either. I have also noticed the scan and the arrows indeed pierced,my mistake,i conceed that one. However, the rocky pillar altered the trajectoy of the arrow from going straight

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to hitting the ground your scan,which means while the arros can pierce an objct,their trajectory will change as seen with my scan and danzo too,gaara's sand walls are a lot denser than that moukton tree and the pillar and such,the arrow,would be altered even worse.
Chidori was an A rank jutsu,gaara's defence wasnt at that level in the CE,it was during the SRA that his defence finally came out,as kimi's bone spear which was at least A class,and even reaching S class levels and he blocked it. V2 A had bijuu levels of chakra concentrated on his body and gaara blocked his kick like it was nothing.
If what you say about the enton arrows are true,then the same goes for the enton sword,it wont reach gaara because it will have a lot of sand to cut through,and we have seen that his sand doset burn off easily,and gaara attacks and deends simultaneously,so sasuke would not get much time with his sword.
How would sasuke even get to swng a sworrd well when his susanoo is restrained?,it didnt take much sand to restrain v3 susanoo of madara himself,a lot of sand would definately hold down sasuke's own susanoo.
Kirin is asily noticeable before sasuke attacks,gaara can clearly see the lightening forming first,and would get a good idea whats coming,you urself saw how it works,the lightening accumulates first,in tha time gaara would just ready his defences,a v2 susanoo took it on,gaara's defences are only behind a v5 susanoo(perfect).
Sasuke's hawk wont help,infact gaara is a great deal better in ariel fights than sasuke,and his defences will still be the same. Also he can make a full bodied karura clone as he showed against madara,that would take almost anyhthing sasuke can throw,and would attack him too.
Also gaara is a much faster flyer than sasuke,he can keep himelf at long range easily.

 

[Brooks]

Thats actually far from the truth. Gaara is fully capable of dealing with shinobi with piercing abilities, with was shown in his battle with Kimimaro. There was multiple occasions when gaara's sand stopped many peircing attacks. And none of these attacks successfully made it through gaara's defenses in part one. His Sand has since become stronger and more durable in shippuden.

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Here you see Gaara's sand increase its durability, and this time the diamond hard bone pellets shattered after the contact. (Proof that gaara's sand tanked steel or diamond hard piercing pellets)

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This is one of Gaara's strongest Defenses which tanked the Strongest spear in the manga:

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And it took Gaara NO TIME AT ALL to construct this Shield:

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This obviously proves that gaara is more than capable than tanking or defending against piercing abilities. You also seem to want to compair Madara's Magatama to sasuke's enton arrow, yet I dont see how you can compair the two since they are compleletly diferent jutsu's and work diferently.

You know what is even more foolish enough? thinking Gaara can defend against Susanoo arrow piercing power just because he defended against Kimimaro bones.....there a huge different between this two attacks piercing power......Sasuke's Susanoo arrow is a leauge above Kimimaro bones in piercing power......your own words "comparing sasuke's enton arrow to Magatama is foolish becuase they have 2 diferent properties"

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^The force behind the attack was even strong enough to go through Danzo using Hashirama's Moktuon tree with little ease.

Enton Arrow simply is Amaterasu which is shot at the opponent like a arrow, but the arrow has NO Definate shape, as it will begin to envelope what ever it comes into contact with or simply gets lodged into whatever it comes into contact with. Magatama on the other hand is a techinique that explodes on contact which would explain why it begin to crack onoki's defense while Gaara's sand was covering it.

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We know that to be the case becuase Itachi's Magatama exploded when it made contact with the ceiling:

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So, you have no manga proof that sasuke's enton arrow can do any damage to gaara's defence. Kimimaro's steel tempered bone couldnt pierce it and compairing sasuke's enton arrow to Magatama is foolish becuase they have 2 diferent properties when they contact there intended target. Which I have shown in my previous scans.

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I just explained why compairing Enton to Magatama is not accurate in this case as they are different techs with different properties. And shown how that arrow has no peircing feats that is even compairable to kimimaro's ultimate spear, which is hard as tempered steel.

First, i never stated anything about Susanoo arrow in that argument....do you enjoy twisting other people's words?.........I was using Enton Blade....which i would like to point out that it pierce through a pillar and a huge Juubi Clone like nothing...easily feat enough to perice through Gaara's sand.

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Gaara's sand has shown impressive speed feats including blocking Enton/Amaterasu. Quickly being construted to block deidara's explosion. And quickly blocking the raikage's drop when it was less than a foot away from sasuke and he was enhanced by his lightning armour.

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Yes, it blocked Enton(which i would like to point that Sasuke throws it...so, it's easier to for Gaara's to react to it.)....Gaara's speed feats isn't even coming close to reacting to Sasuke via Amaterasu...that unless you think his sand it on par with Ay(the Railkage) V2 speed and shunshin no jutsu(Body Flicker Technique)....so, what if he was able Ay's kcik in the air? you act as if Ay is has speed feats by running in the air....i didn't know Ay had speed feat in the air...by your logic Sasuke is also able to react to Ay in V2 because he was able to put Enton spikes while Ay was in the Air.

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And sasuke's speed is reduced greatly when he is encased in his susanoo.

Yes, Sasuke speed might reduced while you using Susanoo....but his Susanoo arrow or via Amaterasu is enough...

The purpose of Onoki making the sand lighter in Gaara's Gourd was so that he could control more of it without expending as much chakra (seeing as he was exhausted from his previous battles. When the sand was lighter it took no chakra at all for him to control it, and also to move it fast enought so that madara had very little time to react.

Gaara ripping madara out of susanoo had nothing to do with onoki lightening his sand, AS HE USED THE SAND AT MADARA'S FEET TO PULL MADARA OUT. He didnt use the sand from his gourd. This was stated in the manga.(GAARA"S PANEL)

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Stop lying dude...it's not really funny...the Sand has a huge density do to how much it is and Gaara couldn't bull Madara out his Susanoo do this....Gaara has no never shown to be worrying about his Chakra when it came to his sand...so, why is it now?

Also, I dont know what you think a Chidori's stream is going to accomplish since it is a known fact that lighting is not the weakness of gaara's sand. By doing that sasuke is only wasting chakra. Since gaara's sand is so relentless, as soon as sasuke releases the technique he will be captured by gaara.

Lighting isn't Gaara's sand, but Chidori is....you seriously need to stop avoiding Manga facts...Sasuke could also use that few seconds to attack Gaara while his attention is way from Sasuke.

Thatt is a good point (about the clones) but that doesnt prove that gaara's techiniques are useless against sasuke becuase he has EMS.lmao

I still got my point...that's all that matters really....

Gaara locked Madara's susanoo in place to restrict its movements before pulling him out of susanoo. Notice the sand around his arms and under torso. Its more clearly seen in the anime, if you choose to see it.

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Good point....not that i see it matters since Sasuke could use the Chidori or use the Final Susanoo to escape it with pure force.

Im confused what you think a chidori spear will do to a flying mobile gaara, especially when gaara has sand after sasuke while he's in the air. Does this look familiar?

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Even though deidara barely manage to escape, he was still tagged with the sand which crushed his arm.

I see someone is using Shakaku Gaara feats....he was able to do that to Deidara do to having Shakaku ability ...so, that feat is useless in here.....*now, about Gaara his Sand shield in the air and using the third eye*...this the big advantage Sasuke would get at him since Sasuke is easily able to take out the third eye with a single Susanoo arrow...while Gaara is there like a sitting duck....Sasuke also shown to pierce his Sand Shield with a normal Chidori...so, have no doubt his Chidori sharp spear pierces through his sand.

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The scale of gaara's attacks are far greater than the scale of sasuke's. Gaara could flood to field to give him the advantage, or make it rain sand [/FONT][/SIZE]so that sasuke it distracted trying to dodge it. Gaara can do what ever he wants to make sasuke respond the way gaara wants him too which we have seen gaara do when he battled his father, kimimaro, and Mizukage.

Again, Sasuke could blocked his any of his Sand attack by protect himself Susanoo(Gaara himself stated external attacks won't work Sasuke's Susanoo) or Sasuke could simply summon his Hawk and take of the ground and dodge each and one of Gaara's sand attacks.

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HAHAHA. Sasuke cant speed blitz gaara while he is in the air. The Hawk has no blitzing feats.lol

why are you laughing so hard....is it to avoid my argument or something?...Huh, where did i ever stated Sasuke's Hawk speed feat? i can't tell if you're fuking with me or just avoiding shit.....i was talking Sasuke's speed(which will run all over Gaara's slow speed feat....that's unless you're saying this fight is starting in the air.

 

[AGoodBoy]

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Replace mini juubi with gaara, and the shield with his sand.

Gaara's sand is weak to strong piercing attacks as shown in the manga. Strong explosive, slashing and crushing attacks always have little to no effect on his sand, but piercing attacks wreck it - along with other attacks ofcourse.

 

[genii96]

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Replace mini juubi with gaara, and the shield with his sand.

Gaara's sand is weak to strong piercing attacks as shown in the manga. Strong explosive, slashing and crushing attacks always have little to no effect on his sand, but piercing attacks wreck it - along with other attacks ofcourse.

which is why he blocked a cs2 bone drill from kimi right?

 

[AGoodBoy]

which is why he blocked a cs2 bone drill from kimi right?

1/10 piercing attacks means nothing, not when that was a special defence for the occasion. Don't pretend you don't know info on gaara, you know exactly that his sand isn't always like that shukaku ultimate defence. We both know that you know as much, if not more than me, on gaara.

 

[End of Days]

which is why he blocked a cs2 bone drill from kimi right?

>bone
>enton

huge difference

i am not the one to say amaterasu or enton solos but it does solo in this case

 

[Brooks]

which is why he blocked a cs2 bone drill from kimi right?

You're comparing Enton Blade to bones now?

@ KidGamer65: slap yourself

 

[Sabaku No Gaara100]

I love Gaara, but he isn't beating Sasuke....lets be honest with ourselves people.

 

[genii96]

1/10 piercing attacks means nothing, not when that was a special defence for the occasion. Don't pretend you don't know info on gaara, you know exactly that his sand isn't always like that shukaku ultimate defence. We both know that you know as much, if not more than me, on gaara.

gaara can easily make that kind of defence again,and much faster than before(which was pretty mich almost instant) if he feels that sasuke can breach his normal defences. If gaara made than shield for bones,je wont make an even stronger one for a v4 susanoo?. For goodness sake,a rock pillar and an incomplete moukton tree caused an arrow to hit the ground,gaara's defence is much denser,it will do even worse aagainst a sand wall than a rock pillar. The arrows have high killing potential,but they are not piercing defences denser than steel,at the very most,they will hit the ground as their trajectory will be altered just like danzo.

>bone
>enton

huge difference

i am not the one to say amaterasu or enton solos but it does solo in this case

you mean the enton gaara so easily blocked while simultaneously stopping a v2 kick from A?,or the ones he caught 3 times in 2 panels from 8m easily?.

You're comparing Enton Blade to bones now?

@ KidGamer65: slap yourself

nope,just pointing out that gaara can deal with piercing attacks and isnt helpless as good boy is saying.

 

[slimreaper]

gaara can easily make that kind of defence again,and much faster than before(which was pretty mich almost instant) if he feels that sasuke can breach his normal defences. If gaara made than shield for bones,je wont make an even stronger one for a v4 susanoo?. For goodness sake,a rock pillar and an incomplete moukton tree caused an arrow to hit the ground,gaara's defence is much denser,it will do even worse aagainst a sand wall than a rock pillar. The arrows have high killing potential,but they are not piercing defences denser than steel,at the very most,they will hit the ground as their trajectory will be altered just like danzo.




you mean the enton gaara so easily blocked while simultaneously stopping a v2 kick from A?,or the ones he caught 3 times in 2 panels from 8m easily?.


nope,just pointing out that gaara can deal with piercing attacks and isnt helpless as good boy is saying.

either way gaara has no way to get sasuke out of his susanoo while riding aoda

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gaara hasn't been able to restrain a complete susanoo without using the sand under the user's feet.
gaara falls victim to an onslaught and can't pull sasuke out of susanoo

 

[genii96]

either way gaara has no way to get sasuke out of his susanoo while riding aoda

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gaara hasn't been able to restrain a complete susanoo without using the sand under the user's feet.
gaara falls victim to an onslaught and can't pull sasuke out of susanoo

ever hear of quicksand?,and riding aoda wont do much good,considering the snake is moving on the sand,so gaara can literary sink it,or upturn it easily. As long as sasuke is fighting on the ground,he is dead.
What onslaughts?,arrows are blocked,enton is useless,genjtsus wont be helpful.
Who told you gaara needs to grab the user's feet to restrain the susanoo?,he grabbed madara's feet to pull him out,he restrained his susanoo to keep it from interfering,resreaining sasuke's susanoo is easy,and aoda cant prevent that from happening.
Aoda is a snake,which means sasuke is still grounded,thus flying will not only give gaara the advantage,but an ariel view of where to strike, he could jjust pop this out of the ground and grab that snake

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,and sasuke would be knocked off balance. Gaara threw madara out cuz he needed to seal him,sasuke dosent need to be sealed,thus he dosent even ned to pull him out,simply burying his susanoo,or crushing him while inside will suffice.
If sasuke brings out aoda,then gaara brings out sand arms whose fingers are bigger than a man his claybird. And he can make many of them in a whim,

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. And since that snake is riding on the ground,these sand arms will just pop out from underneath.

 

[slimreaper]

ever hear of quicksand?,and riding aoda wont do much good,considering the snake is moving on the sand,so gaara can literary sink it,or upturn it easily. As long as sasuke is fighting on the ground,he is dead.
What onslaughts?,arrows are blocked,enton is useless,genjtsus wont be helpful.
Who told you gaara needs to grab the user's feet to restrain the susanoo?,he grabbed madara's feet to pull him out,he restrained his susanoo to keep it from interfering,resreaining sasuke's susanoo is easy,and aoda cant prevent that from happening.
Aoda is a snake,which means sasuke is still grounded,thus flying will not only give gaara the advantage,but an ariel view of where to strike, he could jjust pop this out of the ground and grab that snake

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,and sasuke would be knocked off balance. Gaara threw madara out cuz he needed to seal him,sasuke dosent need to be sealed,thus he dosent even ned to pull him out,simply burying his susanoo,or crushing him while inside will suffice.
If sasuke brings out aoda,then gaara brings out sand arms whose fingers are bigger than a man his claybird. And he can make many of them in a whim,

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. And since that snake is riding on the ground,these sand arms will just pop out from underneath.

this fight isn't in the desert, gaara can't just come from under ground wherever, he has to make the sand.
and an enton arrow has great peircing/cutting capabilities and is incredibly fast, I believe sasuke can pierce gaara's armor liek so

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I understand that was a juubi clone but sasuke cut through it like butter. gaara's defense should be a little harder but not that much

 

[bablujojo]

sasuke (high diff)
they equal in ninjutsu
sasu wont get enough time for dojutsu or genjutsu
itll come to taijutsu and physical fighting. sasuke is definitely stronger than gaara physically

 

[Anub]

Wow. Really? I don't want to get into this whole argument, but you need to stop overestimating Gaara. We're talking about current Sasuke and current Gaara. Well here's the thing and this debate should be easily nullified by the manga. Naruto and Sasuke "evolve" almost at the same time. They have always been equals and Sasuke usually was the one who had the advantage. But now, Sasuke doesn't even need to be on Naruto's level to beat Gaara. Look at the main people fighting Obito and I may come back in about 2 weeks on this thread after Sasuke shows off some more of his EMS to just remind you how strong Kishi already made him. Don't confuse his hard fights (vs Kabuto and Obito) as weaknesses.

 

[Champ]

Large enton arrow kills Gaara

 

[genii96]

this fight isn't in the desert, gaara can't just come from under ground wherever, he has to make the sand.
and an enton arrow has great peircing/cutting capabilities and is incredibly fast, I believe sasuke can pierce gaara's armor liek so

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I understand that was a juubi clone but sasuke cut through it like butter. gaara's defense should be a little harder but not that much

13 year old gaara made a desert out of a forest under a minute

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,and he also said making sand takes no effort for him,

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,current gaara will make a much bigger wave in much less time.

Enton arrows have little piercing power,susanoo arrows have the piercing power,enton arrows have the piercing power. Enton arrows are made of pure amaterasu,and thus will ignite the first thing they hit,which is why chakra rods stopped the attack,all gaara has to do is put up a wall or intercept it with sand drizzle

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to stop it. Susanoo arrows got altered by a rock pillar,they would do even worse against against a sand wall several times stronger than steel.

Those juubi clones were beaen by almost everyone,even kiba tore through several of them,and they are made of skin,so an enton blade on them would easily slice them,gaara's sand has proven resilient to enon,not once,

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,but twice,

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with the same gourd sand he was using,note that the first enton didnt even ignite his sand,it was the second one,where he caught the flames that they ignited the front of the sand.
How is sasuke ven going to get gaara in that range,when gaara is flying and he is on a snake?,and since gaara is above,he can easily attack sasuke with ariel sand attacks and restrain his susanoo,while keeping out of genjutsus and susanoo sword ranges.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

I understand that was a juubi clone but sasuke cut through it like butter. gaara's defense should be a little harder but not that much

Gaara's sand was blocking Madara's Susanoo slashes so Sasuke's enton toothpick has dim chances of getting through.

 

[Unorthodox]

Gaara's sand was blocking Madara's Susanoo slashes so Sasuke's enton toothpick has dim chances of getting through.

madara susanoo was 1/25 of its original power also enton burns thru things they cant be compared