er,from the 2 jutsus that were used between kimi himself and that clone,kimi's was way suerio,and kimi was n cs2,that clone was in base,kabuto took only a portion of kimi's dna,he didnt get the full powers of kimi. Also kimi's stongest bone is bone spear,not that one.
comparing madara to sasuke?. And the fact that the magatamas pierced gaara's above steel level defence and cracked onoki's rock golem show that it is superior to an arrow that got stuck in a freaking rock pillar which isnt even as dense or strong as a rock golem or gaara's sand,and got deflected by chakra rods. Madara's magatama would destroy that rock pillar.
which is why kimi's bone forest was much more superior to kabuto's version right?.he just got a portion of his dna,not the whole thing.
Why is it the first thing you people say is "comparing Madara to Sasuke"? it's like you have no other argument.
Last time i checked Gaara's sand being weaker to attacks that pierce doesn't ably to Susanoo arrow being stopped by a rock pillar....use common sense....
Anyway, that was Susanoo arrow(which is far inferior to Enton Blade in piercing power).
er,from the 2 jutsus that were used between kimi himself and that clone,kimi's was way suerio,and kimi was n cs2,that clone was in base,kabuto took only a portion of kimi's dna,he didnt get the full powers of kimi. Also kimi's stongest bone is bone spear,not that one.
comparing madara to sasuke?. And the fact that the magatamas pierced gaara's above steel level defence and cracked onoki's rock golem show that it is superior to an arrow that got stuck in a freaking rock pillar which isnt even as dense or strong as a rock golem or gaara's sand,and got deflected by chakra rods. Madara's magatama would destroy that rock pillar.
which is why kimi's bone forest was much more superior to kabuto's version right?.he just got a portion of his dna,not the whole thing.
part 1 feats doesnt matter he couldnt even crush kimmi forreal no matter what it was also Susanoo with Amaterasu on the tip would cause damage Aoda coated in susanoo using the its madara susanoo thing -sigh- get a better excuses gaara doesnt last a second fight start Genjutsu AMA or susanoo arrow you chose
er,from the 2 jutsus that were used between kimi himself and that clone,kimi's was way suerio,and kimi was n cs2,that clone was in base,kabuto took only a portion of kimi's dna,he didnt get the full powers of kimi. Also kimi's stongest bone is bone spear,not that one.
comparing madara to sasuke?. And the fact that the magatamas pierced gaara's above steel level defence and cracked onoki's rock golem show that it is superior to an arrow that got stuck in a freaking rock pillar which isnt even as dense or strong as a rock golem or gaara's sand,and got deflected by chakra rods. Madara's magatama would destroy that rock pillar.
which is why kimi's bone forest was much more superior to kabuto's version right?.he just got a portion of his dna,not the whole thing.
As many times as I have countered everyone's argument on Susanoo Arrow not destroying a pillar it is still constant use. A Susanoo Arrow is not used to destroy but to pierce.
Gaara's Defense like the majority of defenses are used to block or cushion the blow of impacts. Gaara Successful blocked a Susanoo sword very well[
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The Mokuton Style is a much more dense Defense that the Sand and Look how close the Arrow still is to Danzo. He attempted to Deflect and could only deflect it so far. For something with a far less density it would penetrate right through and kill Gaara regardless of trying to deflect it.
For you to understand a Susanoo Arrow I must first take you back to the fundamentals. Penetration vs Impact/Explosion. One of the best and more known examples of this is the Chidori vs Rasengan. Everytime these two clash both Sasuke and Naruto are Sent back the same way[
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Now for your argument about Susanoo Arrow not being able to break the pillar. Susanoo Arrow would never blow the pillar up even though that is something we could conclude Naruto's Rasengan could do, but it would penetrate it. That is something that it does and did. Susanoo Arrow tip cannot be seen because it is on the other side of the pillar[
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Why is it the first thing you people say is "comparing Madara to Sasuke"? it's like you have no other argument.
Last time i checked Gaara's sand being weaker to attacks that pierce doesn't ably to Susanoo arrow being stopped by a rock pillar....use common sense....
Anyway, that was Susanoo arrow(which is far inferior to Enton Blade in piercing power).
thats the first thing we say because they are nowhere near the same power level. Gaara has never been weak to pietcing attacks,any strong attack that is above his defence at that time would breach it,just like any other defence,whether piercing or explosive.
You use common sense,a rock pillar is nowhere near as dense as a sand wall,thus if an arrow gets stuck in a pillar,it will even do worse against a sand wall stronger than steel.THAT is common sense.
Enton blades have no piercing power,hey are regular susanoo blades coated with enton,they function like any susanoo blade,except that they set their foes on fire if they hit them,piercing zetsu dosent equate any strong piercng power.
part 1 feats doesnt matter he couldnt even crush kimmi forreal no matter what it was also Susanoo with Amaterasu on the tip would cause damage Aoda coated in susanoo using the its madara susanoo thing -sigh- get a better excuses gaara doesnt last a second fight start Genjutsu AMA or susanoo arrow you chose
not being able to crush kimi doset help you,as kimi is fa more durable than sasuke. His defence triumphing over kimi's strongest bones weter what i highlighted.
Sand dome sand sensing third eye=genjutsu useless,susanoo arrows are countered already in my other post.
Gaara turns the place to quicksand,restrains his susanoo and kills him.
thats the first thing we say because they are nowhere near the same power level. Gaara has never been weak to pietcing attacks,any strong attack that is above his defence at that time would breach it,just like any other defence,whether piercing or explosive.
You use common sense,a rock pillar is nowhere near as dense as a sand wall,thus if an arrow gets stuck in a pillar,it will even do worse against a sand wall stronger than steel.THAT is common sense.
Enton blades have no piercing power,hey are regular susanoo blades coated with enton,they function like any susanoo blade,except that they set their foes on fire if they hit them,piercing zetsu dosent equate any strong piercng power.
not being able to crush kimi doset help you,as kimi is fa more durable than sasuke. His defence triumphing over kimi's strongest bones weter what i highlighted.
Sand dome sand sensing third eye=genjutsu useless,susanoo arrows are countered already in my other post.
Gaara turns the place to quicksand,restrains his susanoo and kills him.
Enton shits all over his sand if it comes close also he can use ribcage to dodge & be mobile plus he can float in his susanoo so undeground sand will be useless your point on blocking the arrow are extremely flawd 3rd eye will get Amaterasud down also he will be caught way before then you need to remember Amaterasu Genjutsu & Susanoo arrow are all almost instant techs those techs you name wont even get a chance to get off before its over
Sasuke susanoo arrow didnt get stuck in a bould in went thru into the ground
Yet, the sand still couldn't protect him from Yasaka Magatama(which has inferior destructive power compare to Deidara's C3).
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Gaara's sand allows him to with stand more from techniques with destructive power than techniques with high piercing power.
Well, it's true his sand doesn't get burned by Amaterasu or it can defend against Susanoo sword, but Enton Blade or Susanoo arrow would pierce his Sand defense.
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^We have already seen what Yasaka Magatama did to Gaara's ultimate defense.
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^With Enton Blade piercing power...it easily pierces Gaara's defense and lights him on fire....Gaara Sand can't handle anything that can pierce....
The ridiculous thing is that you're claiming something, while having no idea as to how Gaara's Sand/sand shield really works.
The bolded proves you have no idea what my post was refering to.
I stated that "for people to solely rely on a susanoo arrow in their beginning argument, when Gaara's sand has shown more versatile feats that protect him from arrows is what I saw as ridiculous".
In no way is that solely refering to gaara's defence capabilities. All you guys see when you think of gaara is his defense, but its ridiculous to think that his defense isnt enought to tank Susanoo arrow especially when he doesnt even need his defense to deal with sasuke. Gaara's offence alone COULD call a GG for sasuke. You people think that Enton Arrow would GG gaara which is completely ridiculous.
Even if sasuke enters susanoo, gaara could use sand hail/rain to distract sasuke, then rip him out susanoo with the ground under sauskes feet, which means sasuke's defeat.
Sasuke also could get tricked into believing he is fighting gaara, when in actuallity he would be fighting a sand clone, and when sasuke thinks that match is won the real gaara could come from behind and rip his arms and legs off or trap him in Imperial Sand Prison.
Also, what is sasuke's counter when gaara's sand grabs susanoo and completely locks it down so that it cant move (Like he did with Madara)?? That means no enton arrow for sasuke.
How does sasuke counter Flying gaara in his Protective sphere high above the battlefield, while gaara's third eye and large persistant sand manipulations exhusts sasuke of all his chakra.
This is my point. Gaara doesnt need a defence to counter enton arrow, as he has other means to stop or avoid it. Its ridiculous to think that just becuase sasuke has enton arrow that it would mean GG for Gaara.
Gaara can do anything with sand. Sasuke is the limited on in this battle.
Enton shits all over his sand if it comes close also he can use ribcage to dodge & be mobile plus he can float in his susanoo so undeground sand will be useless your point on blocking the arrow are extremely flawd 3rd eye will get Amaterasud down also he will be caught way before then you need to remember Amaterasu Genjutsu & Susanoo arrow are all almost instant techs those techs you name wont even get a chance to get off before its over
Sasuke susanoo arrow didnt get stuck in a bould in went thru into the ground
enton has been tested on gaara's sand,twice,both times it was worthless. If sasuke uses enton on gaara's sand,he will just use that enton sand to roast sasuke.
Only madara can float in his susanoo IIRC,and even if sasuke floats,so what?,gaara would just send the sand up after him,and inside hissusanoo there is not a loot of room to navigate,especially as gaara can just keep bringing more sand up there,sasuke would get squished. Ribcage suusanoo gets destroyed by a giant sand burial.
Gaara can place a third eye anywhere on the batlefield,how ould sasukeknow where it is?,and he can just make a new one,his sand sensing will simply tell him where sasuke is.
Gaara is able to put up defences in the split second an explosion goes off,tsukiyomi requires ye contact,which isnt happening,gaara's defence is just as quick to activate,the worst thing that can happen is if ama actually hits him,whicj ofcourse would be hitting his sand armour,which he would just replace. Sand sensing also allows gaara to know when sasuke is about to attack,as heit did to muu in the air.
Gaara can also have sand clones attack from behind while he attacks from the other side,and since the clones also use sand,sasuke would be faced with several oppoenents that would grab him regardless of which susanoo form he is in.
enton has been tested on gaara's sand,twice,both times it was worthless. If sasuke uses enton on gaara's sand,he will just use that enton sand to roast sasuke.
Only madara can float in his susanoo IIRC,and even if sasuke floats,so what?,gaara would just send the sand up after him,and inside hissusanoo there is not a loot of room to navigate,especially as gaara can just keep bringing more sand up there,sasuke would get squished. Ribcage suusanoo gets destroyed by a giant sand burial.
Gaara can place a third eye anywhere on the batlefield,how ould sasukeknow where it is?,and he can just make a new one,his sand sensing will simply tell him where sasuke is.
Gaara is able to put up defences in the split second an explosion goes off,tsukiyomi requires ye contact,which isnt happening,gaara's defence is just as quick to activate,the worst thing that can happen is if ama actually hits him,whicj ofcourse would be hitting his sand armour,which he would just replace. Sand sensing also allows gaara to know when sasuke is about to attack,as heit did to muu in the air.
Gaara can also have sand clones attack from behind while he attacks from the other side,and since the clones also use sand,sasuke would be faced with several oppoenents that would grab him regardless of which susanoo form he is in.
enton can't roast sasuke, he can touch it with his bare hand
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sasuke can move freely within his susanoo, why can't he float
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you have no evidence that he can go all the way up into susanoo as far as we know he can only get you if your fee are on the ground. if so he would have pulled madara out of perfect susanoo.
sasuke can see the color of chakra so the third eye would stick out like a sore thumb. once dealt with he is open for tyukuyomi.
gaara's defense is weak against speed as shown in the chunun exams against sasuke so susanoo arrow would also more than likely be too fast.
and clones are weaker so the defense is breached even easier
enton can't roast sasuke, he can touch it with his bare hand
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sasuke can move freely within his susanoo, why can't he float
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you have no evidence that he can go all the way up into susanoo as far as we know he can only get you if your fee are on the ground. if so he would have pulled madara out of perfect susanoo.
sasuke can see the color of chakra so the third eye would stick out like a sore thumb. once dealt with he is open for tyukuyomi.
gaara's defense is weak against speed as shown in the chunun exams against sasuke so susanoo arrow would also more than likely be too fast.
and clones are weaker so the defense is breached even easier
saske can do that if he is the one controlling the enton,not if the enton is slammed into his face.
Movinr around on the ground doent mean you can float,only madara has shown that, gaara can just send the sand upwards,there is nothing but space inside the susanoo isnt it?,so why cant he raise the sand?,what is stoping him?. Madara's PS had a full body,unlike sasuke's susanoo.
Gaara can make it behind sasuke,or up above in the sky,sasuke has to be looking in the direction of the eye to spot it,and even if he destroys it,gaara just makes another one,gaara also has sand sensing,thus he dosent need to look at sasuke's eyes anyway,so tsukiyomi is out.
CE gaara and current gaara are not the same,speed was his proble m then,by the SRA arc he kept up with kimimaro,who was a lot faster than sasuke at that time,and even boosted his speed with cyrsed seal. By part 2,he reacts to explosions at the instant they explode,an arrow is not a problem.
Dosent matter if the clones are weaker,sasuke will still have to focus on them otherwise they will get his legs,and while he doing that,gaara gets an opening. Gaara's clones might be weaker,but they regenerate and even reform,and can even change their bodies to sand as seen when one caught the mizukage. Not to mention the fact that they will also make more sand,thus further more increasing the sand content in the location. I am very sure they are stronger than 13 yr old gaara or at the sane level,which means the place will turn into a complete desert parade in a very short time.
Gaara can simply choose to bury sasuke and his suanoo anyway, or just restrain his susanoo and sink sasuke.
saske can do that if he is the one controlling the enton,not if the enton is slammed into his face.
Movinr around on the ground doent mean you can float,only madara has shown that, gaara can just send the sand upwards,there is nothing but space inside the susanoo isnt it?,so why cant he raise the sand?,what is stoping him?. Madara's PS had a full body,unlike sasuke's susanoo.
Gaara can make it behind sasuke,or up above in the sky,sasuke has to be looking in the direction of the eye to spot it,and even if he destroys it,gaara just makes another one,gaara also has sand sensing,thus he dosent need to look at sasuke's eyes anyway,so tsukiyomi is out.
CE gaara and current gaara are not the same,speed was his proble m then,by the SRA arc he kept up with kimimaro,who was a lot faster than sasuke at that time,and even boosted his speed with cyrsed seal. By part 2,he reacts to explosions at the instant they explode,an arrow is not a problem.
Dosent matter if the clones are weaker,sasuke will still have to focus on them otherwise they will get his legs,and while he doing that,gaara gets an opening. Gaara's clones might be weaker,but they regenerate and even reform,and can even change their bodies to sand as seen when one caught the mizukage. Not to mention the fact that they will also make more sand,thus further more increasing the sand content in the location. I am very sure they are stronger than 13 yr old gaara or at the sane level,which means the place will turn into a complete desert parade in a very short time.
Gaara can simply choose to bury sasuke and his suanoo anyway, or just restrain his susanoo and sink sasuke.
gaara couldn't restrain madara's first susanoo at all, how is he going to restrain a final susanoo. And gaara was beaten by 5 complete susanoo's that were 1/25th of madara's susanoo power. Sasuke's susanoo isn't weaker than 5 clones and he breaches gaara's perfect defense
enton can't roast sasuke, he can touch it with his bare hand
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sasuke can move freely within his susanoo, why can't he float
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you have no evidence that he can go all the way up into susanoo as far as we know he can only get you if your fee are on the ground. if so he would have pulled madara out of perfect susanoo.
sasuke can see the color of chakra so the third eye would stick out like a sore thumb. once dealt with he is open for tyukuyomi.
gaara's defense is weak against speed as shown in the chunun exams against sasuke so susanoo arrow would also more than likely be too fast.
and clones are weaker so the defense is breached even easier
the mist would be the color he would see, considering the sharingan is what gave kakashi the advantage against zabuza id say he could just not in its one tomoe state
the mist would be the color he would see, considering the sharingan is what gave kakashi the advantage against zabuza id say he could just not in its one tomoe state
Man, you fail so hard. Kakashi could not see anything he had to summon dogs to sniff out zabuza. What about madara who has an EMS he could not see a thing either.
gaara couldn't restrain madara's first susanoo at all, how is he going to restrain a final susanoo. And gaara was beaten by 5 complete susanoo's that were 1/25th of madara's susanoo power. Sasuke's susanoo isn't weaker than 5 clones and he breaches gaara's perfect defense
what are you talking about?,he restrained and pinned down madara's susanoo then threw out madara from it.
Last time i checked,he was doing just fine,up until he had to save mei,and then had his back turned,which is when the usanoos attacked him,and they didnt break through,his sand blocked them all,hewas just blown back because of the force,they didnt lay a scatch on him,he got right back up.
Those clones could make susanoos which were full bodied,which is more than i can say for sasuke. One of the clones placed A in genjutsu that he couldnt break free,whereas danzo broke sasuke's tsukiyomi with just the regular kai method. The clones possesed ems rinnegan and moukton.
Gaara wasnt even looking when his sand blocke it,and the amount that blockd the swords was very small. So if gaara could take that attack when his back was turned,sasuke's attacks arent doing anything when he is facing sasuke.
The bolded proves you have no idea what my post was refering to.
I stated that "for people to solely rely on a susanoo arrow in their beginning argument, when Gaara's sand has shown more versatile feats that protect him from arrows is what I saw as ridiculous".
I'm going to say this again and listen very carefully this time....Gaara's sand has shown to be weaker when it comes to attacks that can p[price such as Yasaka Magatama or the Chidori.....
Well, it's true his sand doesn't get burned by Amaterasu or it can defend against Susanoo sword, but Enton Blade or Susanoo arrow would pierce his Sand defense.
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^We have already seen what Yasaka Magatama did to Gaara's ultimate defense.
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^With Enton Blade piercing power...it easily pierces Gaara's defense and lights him on fire....Gaara Sand can't handle anything that can pierce....
In no way is that solely refering to gaara's defence capabilities. All you guys see when you think of gaara is his defense, but its ridiculous to think that his defense isnt enought to tank Susanoo arrow especially when he doesnt even need his defense to deal with sasuke. Gaara's offence alone COULD call a GG for sasuke. You people think that Enton Arrow would GG gaara which is completely ridiculous.
You calling what i said to be ridiculous when you honestly believe Gaara's offence could gg Sasuke when in fact his offence is too slow to even touch Sasuke?
Even if sasuke enters susanoo, gaara could use sand hail/rain to distract sasuke, then rip him out susanoo with the ground under sauskes feet, which means sasuke's defeat.
No, that isn't working without Onoki using his Light weight technique to Gaara's Sand.....if Gaara knew he could this without Onoki's help.....then he would done it along time ago...if you look closely at the manga scan i'm going to post where Gaara is thinking to himself that he might pull Madara under Susanoo do the Sand being light....."The sand is light now....then that means....!!
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Now, only is that prove enough that Gaara can't do anything against Susanoo without Onoki's help....but there also the fact that Sasuke could counter Gaara's sand where other Uchihas with Susanoo....Sasuke can simply surround himself with the Chidori Nagashi....does avoiding Gaara's Sand from ever touching him.
Sasuke also could get tricked into believing he is fighting gaara, when in actuallity he would be fighting a sand clone, and when sasuke thinks that match is won the real gaara could come from behind and rip his arms and legs off or trap him in Imperial Sand Prison.
That could really work into Gaara's advantage, but that isn't happening thanks to the EMS seeing through clones....which is even more prove enough that more of Gaara's techniques are useless against Sasuke.
Also, what is sasuke's counter when gaara's sand grabs susanoo and completely locks it down so that it cant move (Like he did with Madara)?? That means no enton arrow for sasuke.
How does sasuke counter Flying gaara in his Protective sphere high above the battlefield, while gaara's third eye and large persistant sand manipulations exhusts sasuke of all his chakra.
Huh, and Sasuke can't fly right? Gaara isn't being save in that that place do to Sasuke able to fly with his Hawk and using his Chidori Sharp spear(that can extend 5 meters long) which more than enough with his Hawk.
This is my point. Gaara doesnt need a defence to counter enton arrow, as he has other means to stop or avoid it. Its ridiculous to think that just becuase sasuke has enton arrow that it would mean GG for Gaara.
How else is Gaara going to try to counter Sasuke's Enton blade? with his slow speed....Sasuke would cut his head off before he knows it......Sasuke can know gg Gaara do to his overwhelming Enton blade,sword, and arrow....Gaara can't counter this do its powerful pricing power.
And Sasuke can do anything with his Enton.....you point is?
Gaara's has to be in a long ass distance if he's going to fight Sasuke or else....he will get speedblitzed by Sasuke with his god-like Shunshin No Jutsu(Body Flicker Technique)....his head would be on the ground before he knows what just happened.
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^Chapter 307 page 13
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^Chapter 307 page 14
His Shunshin No Jutsu(Body Flicker Technique) is so great that this happened instantly.....Gaara better hope he isn't close.
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^Stated to be a God-like speed in the databook(written by Masashi Kishimoto)
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^Another example as to how great his Shunshin No Jutsu(Body Flicker Technique) is......
I'm going to say this again and listen very carefully this time....Gaara's sand has shown to be weaker when it comes to attacks that can p[price such as Yasaka Magatama or the Chidori.....
Thats actually far from the truth. Gaara is fully capable of dealing with shinobi with piercing abilities, with was shown in his battle with Kimimaro. There was multiple occasions when gaara's sand stopped many peircing attacks. And none of these attacks successfully made it through gaara's defenses in part one. His Sand has since become stronger and more durable in shippuden.
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Here you see Gaara's sand increase its durability, and this time the diamond hard bone pellets shattered after the contact. (Proof that gaara's sand tanked steel or diamond hard piercing pellets)
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This is one of Gaara's strongest Defenses which tanked the Strongest spear in the manga:
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And it took Gaara NO TIME AT ALL to construct this Shield:
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This obviously proves that gaara is more than capable than tanking or defending against piercing abilities. You also seem to want to compair Madara's Magatama to sasuke's enton arrow, yet I dont see how you can compair the two since they are compleletly diferent jutsu's and work diferently.
Enton Arrow simply is Amaterasu which is shot at the opponent like a arrow, but the arrow has NO Definate shape, as it will begin to envelope what ever it comes into contact with or simply gets lodged into whatever it comes into contact with. Magatama on the other hand is a techinique that explodes on contact which would explain why it begin to crack onoki's defense while Gaara's sand was covering it.
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We know that to be the case becuase Itachi's Magatama exploded when it made contact with the ceiling:
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So, you have no manga proof that sasuke's enton arrow can do any damage to gaara's defence. Kimimaro's steel tempered bone couldnt pierce it and compairing sasuke's enton arrow to Magatama is foolish becuase they have 2 diferent properties when they contact there intended target. Which I have shown in my previous scans.
I just explained why compairing Enton to Magatama is not accurate in this case as they are different techs with different properties. And shown how that arrow has no peircing feats that is even compairable to kimimaro's ultimate spear, which is hard as tempered steel.
You calling what i said to be ridiculous when you honestly believe Gaara's offence could gg Sasuke when in fact his offence is too slow to even touch Sasuke?
Gaara's sand has shown impressive speed feats including blocking Enton/Amaterasu. Quickly being construted to block deidara's explosion. And quickly blocking the raikage's drop when it was less than a foot away from sasuke and he was enhanced by his lightning armour.
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And sasuke's speed is reduced greatly when he is encased in his susanoo.
No, that isn't working without Onoki using his Light weight technique to Gaara's Sand.....if Gaara knew he could this without Onoki's help.....then he would done it along time ago...if you look closely at the manga scan i'm going to post where Gaara is thinking to himself that he might pull Madara under Susanoo do the Sand being light....."The sand is light now....then that means....!!
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Now, only is that prove enough that Gaara can't do anything against Susanoo without Onoki's help....but there also the fact that Sasuke could counter Gaara's sand where other Uchihas with Susanoo....Sasuke can simply surround himself with the Chidori Nagashi....does avoiding Gaara's Sand from ever touching him.
The purpose of Onoki making the sand lighter in Gaara's Gourd was so that he could control more of it without expending as much chakra (seeing as he was exhausted from his previous battles. When the sand was lighter it took no chakra at all for him to control it, and also to move it fast enought so that madara had very little time to react.
Gaara ripping madara out of susanoo had nothing to do with onoki lightening his sand, AS HE USED THE SAND AT MADARA'S FEET TO PULL MADARA OUT. He didnt use the sand from his gourd. This was stated in the manga.(GAARA"S PANEL)
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Also, I dont know what you think a Chidori's stream is going to accomplish since it is a known fact that lighting is not the weakness of gaara's sand. By doing that sasuke is only wasting chakra. Since gaara's sand is so relentless, as soon as sasuke releases the technique he will be captured by gaara.
That could really work into Gaara's advantage, but that isn't happening thanks to the EMS seeing through clones....which is even more prove enough that more of Gaara's techniques are useless against Sasuke.
Gaara locked Madara's susanoo in place to restrict its movements before pulling him out of susanoo. Notice the sand around his arms and under torso. Its more clearly seen in the anime, if you choose to see it.
Huh, and Sasuke can't fly right? Gaara isn't being save in that that place do to Sasuke able to fly with his Hawk and using his Chidori Sharp spear(that can extend 5 meters long) which more than enough with his Hawk.
Im confused what you think a chidori spear will do to a flying mobile gaara, especially when gaara has sand after sasuke while he's in the air. Does this look familiar?
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Even though deidara barely manage to escape, he was still tagged with the sand which crushed his arm.
The scale of gaara's attacks are far greater than the scale of sasuke's. Gaara could flood to field to give him the advantage, or make it rain sand so that sasuke it distracted trying to dodge it. Gaara can do what ever he wants to make sasuke respond the way gaara wants him too which we have seen gaara do when he battled his father, kimimaro, and Mizukage.
Gaara's has to be in a long ass distance if he's going to fight Sasuke or else....he will get speedblitzed by Sasuke with his god-like Shunshin No Jutsu(Body Flicker Technique)....his head would be on the ground before he knows what just happened.
what are you talking about?,he restrained and pinned down madara's susanoo then threw out madara from it.
Last time i checked,he was doing just fine,up until he had to save mei,and then had his back turned,which is when the usanoos attacked him,and they didnt break through,his sand blocked them all,hewas just blown back because of the force,they didnt lay a scatch on him,he got right back up.
Those clones could make susanoos which were full bodied,which is more than i can say for sasuke. One of the clones placed A in genjutsu that he couldnt break free,whereas danzo broke sasuke's tsukiyomi with just the regular kai method. The clones possesed ems rinnegan and moukton.
Gaara wasnt even looking when his sand blocke it,and the amount that blockd the swords was very small. So if gaara could take that attack when his back was turned,sasuke's attacks arent doing anything when he is facing sasuke.
Thats actually far from the truth. Gaara is fully capable of dealing with shinobi with piercing abilities, with was shown in his battle with Kimimaro. There was multiple occasions when gaara's sand stopped many peircing attacks. And none of these attacks successfully made it through gaara's defenses in part one. His Sand has since become stronger and more durable in shippuden.
The diamond hard bone pellets:
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Here you see Gaara's sand increase its durability, and this time the diamond hard bone pellets shattered after the contact. (Proof that gaara's sand tanked steel or diamond hard piercing pellets)
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This is one of Gaara's strongest Defenses which tanked the Strongest spear in the manga:
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And it took Gaara NO TIME AT ALL to construct this Shield:
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This obviously proves that gaara is more than capable than tanking or defending against piercing abilities. You also seem to want to compair Madara's Magatama to sasuke's enton arrow, yet I dont see how you can compair the two since they are compleletly diferent jutsu's and work diferently.
Enton Arrow simply is Amaterasu which is shot at the opponent like a arrow, but the arrow has NO Definate shape, as it will begin to envelope what ever it comes into contact with or simply gets lodged into whatever it comes into contact with. Magatama on the other hand is a techinique that explodes on contact which would explain why it begin to crack onoki's defense while Gaara's sand was covering it.
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We know that to be the case becuase Itachi's Magatama exploded when it made contact with the ceiling:
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So, you have no manga proof that sasuke's enton arrow can do any damage to gaara's defence. Kimimaro's steel tempered bone couldnt pierce it and compairing sasuke's enton arrow to Magatama is foolish becuase they have 2 diferent properties when they contact there intended target. Which I have shown in my previous scans.
I just explained why compairing Enton to Magatama is not accurate in this case as they are different techs with different properties. And shown how that arrow has no peircing feats that is even compairable to kimimaro's ultimate spear, which is hard as tempered steel.
Gaara's sand has shown impressive speed feats including blocking Enton/Amaterasu. Quickly being construted to block deidara's explosion. And quickly blocking the raikage's drop when it was less than a foot away from sasuke and he was enhanced by his lightning armour.
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And sasuke's speed is reduced greatly when he is encased in his susanoo.
The purpose of Onoki making the sand lighter in Gaara's Gourd was so that he could control more of it without expending as much chakra (seeing as he was exhausted from his previous battles. When the sand was lighter it took no chakra at all for him to control it, and also to move it fast enought so that madara had very little time to react.
Gaara ripping madara out of susanoo had nothing to do with onoki lightening his sand, AS HE USED THE SAND AT MADARA'S FEET TO PULL MADARA OUT. He didnt use the sand from his gourd. This was stated in the manga.(GAARA"S PANEL)
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Also, I dont know what you think a Chidori's stream is going to accomplish since it is a known fact that lighting is not the weakness of gaara's sand. By doing that sasuke is only wasting chakra. Since gaara's sand is so relentless, as soon as sasuke releases the technique he will be captured by gaara.
Thatt is a good point (about the clones) but that doesnt prove that gaara's techiniques are useless against sasuke becuase he has EMS.lmao
Gaara locked Madara's susanoo in place to restrict its movements before pulling him out of susanoo. Notice the sand around his arms and under torso. Its more clearly seen in the anime, if you choose to see it.
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Im confused what you think a chidori spear will do to a flying mobile gaara, especially when gaara has sand after sasuke while he's in the air. Does this look familiar?
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Even though deidara barely manage to escape, he was still tagged with the sand which crushed his arm.
The scale of gaara's attacks are far greater than the scale of sasuke's. Gaara could flood to field to give him the advantage, or make it rain sand so that sasuke it distracted trying to dodge it. Gaara can do what ever he wants to make sasuke respond the way gaara wants him too which we have seen gaara do when he battled his father, kimimaro, and Mizukage.
HAHAHA. Sasuke cant speed blitz gaara while he is in the air. The Hawk has no blitzing feats.lol
I hate when people use gaara feats with shakaku as if it would matter my arguement stand sasuke wins this Gaara hasit shown a sand defense like he did against deidara since he fought deidara sasuke susanoo arrow easily plow thru his sand with enton on the tips people seem to forget about enton Magatama witch could spread his enton very quickly also They guy who said sasuke would be burned with his own enton fools sasuke enton would burn the sand down all the sand that got touched with enton gaara removed it
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Gaara clealy attacks with new sand.
His sand can never block Amaterasu enton shot up towards Gaara Ama witch is near instant
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Gaara sand has only been shown to activate when projectile Objects Amaterasu seems as so fast it spawns on the body and also invisible untill its hits the object Gaara sand has no awearness of whats coming also i have predicted sasuke Ama is even Faster than lets say 2 tomoe sasuke had Amaterasu When he was fight naruto he couldnt really getting a beat on him or lock on him that naruto would have been easily to dodge his 2 tomoe Amaterasu however 3 tomoe sasuke would easily roast him
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his ems Amaterasu is indeed quicker added the quick defeat.
His Susanoo is being tooken down by any of gaaras techs as we seen on the last manga Gaara needed Onoki to make his sand lighter Witch made it look like a foggy misty sand smoke gaara obivously couldnt do it alone and Sasuke ribcage witch is mobile could dodge and tanked Gaaras hole arsenal and as for Gaara third eye & Sand dome His susanoo arrow easily plows thru it his chidori made it look like nothing
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And also sasuke Genjutsu is used more perfectly isnt on itachi level buts its good enough he easily caught deidara who prepared for it same with danzo and he didnt use eye contact on deidara
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As i was saying the 3rd eye will be useless its obviously Gaara's real eye and its open for anything As i said susanoo arrow goes thru dat sand dome and his sand will be way to slow to reacted His sand only withstood Madara susanoo sword because there were only 1/25th of there original power as hashirama mokuton clones was no match for Madara seeing how he fodderized them easily so tha feat is thrown out the window here not mention sasuke Raiton Abilities Enton would make Kirin not even seem Like a prep techs Gaara isnt defending against something that moves 1/1000 seconds
Gaara clearly isnt defending against that that is just 1 of many ways this could play also sasuke giant enton sword gaara defense is shitted on here Gamabunta was the size of shakaku those little hand things that wrapped deidara up in sasuke could escape from his hawk or use enton blade to slice right out of there its is far to big to not doe so its the size of Aoda or longer in Amaterasu being stoped by those rods was due to it being a fire/Ama subtance unlike his Enton arrow witch wont stop on something because its connected unto enton arrow witch shot out with nothing behind supporting it also gaara sand is no rods sasuke enton will overwhelm gaara eventually or gaara goes down faster by genjutsu or anything else since his 3rd eye is gone he cannot see and we seen Gaara cannot really detect anything thru his sand since deidara burns got in if his 3rd eye is gone he cannot see by then enton would have already killed him.
I hate when people use gaara feats with shakaku as if it would matter my arguement stand sasuke wins this Gaara hasit shown a sand defense like he did against deidara since he fought deidara .sasuke susanoo arrow easily plow thru his sand with enton on the tips people seem to forget about enton Magatama witch could spread his enton very quickly also They guy who said sasuke would be burned with his own enton fools sasuke enton would burn the sand down all the sand that got touched with enton gaara removed it
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Gaara clealy attacks with new sand.
His sand can never block Amaterasu enton shot up towards Gaara Ama witch is near instant
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Gaara sand has only been shown to activate when projectile Objects Amaterasu seems as so fast it spawns on the body and also invisible untill its hits the object Gaara sand has no awearness of whats coming also i have predicted sasuke Ama is even Faster than lets say 2 tomoe sasuke had Amaterasu When he was fight naruto he couldnt really getting a beat on him or lock on him that naruto would have been easily to dodge his 2 tomoe Amaterasu however 3 tomoe sasuke would easily roast him
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his ems Amaterasu is indeed quicker added the quick defeat.
His Susanoo is being tooken down by any of gaaras techs as we seen on the last manga Gaara needed Onoki to make his sand lighter Witch made it look like a foggy misty sand smoke gaara obivously couldnt do it alone and Sasuke ribcage witch is mobile could dodge and tanked Gaaras hole arsenal and as for Gaara third eye & Sand dome His susanoo arrow easily plows thru it his chidori made it look like nothing
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And also sasuke Genjutsu is used more perfectly isnt on itachi level buts its good enough he easily caught deidara who prepared for it same with danzo and he didnt use eye contact on deidara
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As i was saying the 3rd eye will be useless its obviously Gaara's real eye and its open for anything As i said susanoo arrow goes thru dat sand dome and his sand will be way to slow to reacted His sand only withstood Madara susanoo sword because there were only 1/25th of there original power as hashirama mokuton clones was no match for Madara seeing how he fodderized them easily so tha feat is thrown out the window here not mention sasuke Raiton Abilities Enton would make Kirin not even seem Like a prep techs Gaara isnt defending against something that moves 1/1000 seconds
Gaara clearly isnt defending against that that is just 1 of many ways this could play also sasuke giant enton sword gaara defense is shitted on here Gamabunta was the size of shakaku those little hand things that wrapped deidara up in sasuke could escape from his hawk or use enton blade to slice right out of there its is far to big to not doe so its the size of Aoda or longer in Amaterasu being stoped by those rods was due to it being a fire/Ama subtance unlike his Enton arrow witch wont stop on something because its connected unto enton arrow witch shot out with nothing behind supporting it also gaara sand is no rods sasuke enton will overwhelm gaara eventually or gaara goes down faster by genjutsu or anything else since his 3rd eye is gone he cannot see and we seen Gaara cannot really detect anything thru his sand since deidara burns got in if his 3rd eye is gone he cannot see by then enton would have already killed him.
