not the current orochimaru they are miles apart now mokuton is far better than sharinganItachi is superior to orochimaru
it would be one hell of a fightYeah, that definitely had a part in it. But I think he also knew how great he could be, Minato was thought to be the child of prophecy and was already more of a legend, even though he was much younger than Oro. But realistically I've got Minato, Itachi, and Orochimaru extremely close. Like 1a, 1b, and 1c. In a fight to the death I think its way too close to call for them really
I am assuming Leaf Born Excludes the founding members (Madara, Tobirama, Hashirama) correct?!
If so...then I'd agree with your list for the most part...especially since we have only seen the epicosity of an extremely old Hiruzen.
Naruto and Sasuke are hard to place....Kurama noted he's above Minato, but he may not be above Edo Minato. Sasuke being Naruto's equal they kind of share the same fate.
Sometimes I want to say Gai is better than Kakashi...but Kakashi is simply more diverse in tactical offense so I'll give you that one.
Nice work.
Nice work....I'd agree
i hate to burst your bubble but thisSarutobi and danzou and any ninja close to there age or apart of the first ninja war, were not "Born" leaf ninjas! Since there was no leaf to be born in at the time.... smh
my list was not comparing primes but current poweres even so oro is still above kabutoRinnegan Tobi
BM Naruto
Minato
DSM Kabuto
Itachi
Sasuke
Danzo
Orochimaru
Kakashi
Jiraiya
Sarutobi and danzou and any ninja close to there age or apart of the first ninja war, were not "Born" leaf ninjas! Since there was no leaf to be born in at the time.... smh
So is Minato, remember how he analyzed Tobi's Kamui and found out a way to defeat him, his speed and sealing techniques certainly play a big role against Oro..thank you for pointing that out
i did mention that but orochimaru is also vastly more intelligent than any other naruto character
but you also forget that oro has seen those techs including rds not to mention injured and no jutsu Orochimaru took on a 4tail narutoSo is Minato, remember how he analyzed Tobi's Kamui and found out a way to defeat him, his speed and sealing techniques certainly play a big role against Oro..
not the current orochimaru they are miles apart now mokuton is far better than sharingan
it would be one hell of a fight
I think the same sometimes, if Gai ever showed us much ninjutsu I'd put him above him. He took out Kisame, and realistically I haven't seen Kakashi defeat anyone of his level.Sometimes I want to say Gai is better than Kakashi...but Kakashi is simply more diverse in tactical offense so I'll give you that one.
but you also forget that oro has seen those techs including rds not to mention injured and no jutsu Orochimaru took on a 4tail naruto
Lol in his current state...I'd say Orochimaru deffinatly stands at the pedestal of Top Dog of Konoha Born Shinobi with Three Hokage at is command plus who knows what else....he also has the option to mind wipe Hashirama..weakens him, but he can always just de-summon him.
Though I did forget Danzo....I'd put him in around Itachi.....though I'll give Itachi the benefit of the doubt.
10. Kakashi/Gai
9. Tsunade
8. Danzo
7. Itachi
6. Jiraiya
5. Sasuke
4. Naruto
3. Minato
2. Hiruzen
1. Orochimaru
That's including the feats of Edo Minato and the respect for the Hiruzen's younger days....otherwise I'd say Naruto and Sasuke likey take number two and three in their tie....once again hard to place them....and hard to place Minato and Hiruzen without knowing Hiruzen's greatest extent or Minato's potential he lost.
OHHH...if current powers (or powers at death....Jiraiya and Danzo)...I'd probably throw Hiruzen after Naruto and Sasuke then.
Also...if we are counting Kabuto as a Konoha Shinobi I guess he'd actually be off the list with his current condition....otherwise I'd put him at number one during his prime of the Edo Onslaught.....Kabuto never seemed a Konoha shinobi as much as a temporary Danzo tool that was then Orochimaru's Hidden Sound Shinobi.
1st of all we don't know if Oro had figured out how to counter each and every sealing tech of minato, and Oro was able to take out four tailed Naruto because he didn't know how to control Kurama chakra (he even injured Sakura) and minato is better in controlling it..
Sorry I have to go offline, I will comeback to it, later..a fact that many people dont realize is Orochimaru had trained everyone kabuto took dna from for his own body not to mention kabuto himself and sasuke for that mater Orochimaru also has the ability to absorb his chakra
but Orochimaru beat the RDS which is the be all end all of sealing jutsus
Wat abt Hashirama most OP shinobi that ever lived in leaf and true god of Shinobi and wat abt Tobi teacher of 3rd10: Guy - 8 gates
9: Kakashi: kamui and 1000 jutsu
8: Tsunade- 5th hokage. senju dna sage mode (kinda) rapid healing
7: Itachi- MS Amaterasu tsukuyomi and susanoo, alsp knows izanami
6: Jiraiya- sage mode was trained by hiruzen trained minato and naruto, survived an attacked by a raging Tsunade
5: Sasuke- tied with naruto, has EMS, knows tsukuyomi, amaterasu, and susanoo, also has the KKG Blaze
4: Naruto- tied with sasuke, has control of half of kurama, sage mode
3: Minato - controls half of kurama, has the FTG and RDS
2: Hiruzen- considered a god by orochimaru. Was said to be the strongest hokage
1: Orochimaru- was trained by hiruzen the man has been thought to been killed twice. has control of the 3 edo kages. know over 10,000 jutsu, has senju dna also killed the 4th kazekage and responcible for hiruzens death
0: Obito- because juubi and kamui and rinnegan
Wat abt Hashirama most OP shinobi that ever lived in leaf and true god of Shinobi and wat abt Tobi teacher of 3rd
Where is Iruka teacher of Naruto as wel as Sasuke