Susanoo can't help against Minato's flying thunder god technique

[DeadManWonderLand]

He cant send chakra to the ground and expect in to concentrate in that one area.

using that logic he could simply infuse his chakra into the kunai and bypass the seal altogether.

Storing chakra into something is usually implemented through a funinjustu which is why he uses the seals on kunai in the first place.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

This is all under the pretension that minato has already set up chakra into something if he could do it at a whim then any fight would be automatically won.

 

[The Necromancer]

He already teleported chakra based attacks. He even distinguished the fact of teleporting Kyubi AND his tbb before teleporting them out of Konoha, which means he could have teleport Kyubi without his TBB and vice verse. The same thing could be said with Susanoo and his user since Susanoo is also a chakra based attack

Why does this matter? He has to teleport with the technique as well, meaning the user can simply reactivate Susano'o before he comes back... Big waste of chakra if you ask me.

 

[Bogard]

Why does this matter? He has to teleport with the technique as well, meaning the user can simply reactivate Susano'o before he comes back... Big waste of chakra if you ask me.

Lol why did i know that this one was coming? xD Unfortunately you're wrong. A Susanoo user can't recreate another one when one is already active
It's been shown in this manga that for the creation of Susanoo, there is a chakra manifestation before

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And when Susanoo is created, it has been shown that the Susanoo user can't create another one. It's for that reason that Madara had no other choice than using Rinnengan's Gakidou ability to warp the attack

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Something that was again proven when Hashirama

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. He couldn't activate it once more at that time

It's because of this that warping the Susanoo user out of his Susanoo will leave him open since at that moment(the time to deactivate the jutsu and reactivate it), he couldn't use Susanoo

FTG is on the contrary instant. Do the math

 

[NarutoUzu69]

I just realized if he teleports someone with susanoo wouldn't the susanoo go with the person
just like minato can teleport anything having contact with Chakra
susanoo which has contact with the user would teleport along with the person being teleported

Unless he is teleporting them far away it is still a problem for minato

 

[Rainbow Dash]

1st option seems ridiculously false. The second one seems much more plausible.

 

[The Necromancer]

Lol why did i know that this one was coming? xD Unfortunately you're wrong. A Susanoo user can't recreate another one when one is already active
It's been shown in this manga that for the creation of Susanoo, there is a chakra manifestation before

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And when Susanoo is created, it has been shown that the Susanoo user can't create another one. It's for that reason that Madara had no other choice than using Rinnengan's Gakidou ability to warp the attack

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To recreate Susanoo, he needs

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Something that was again proven when Hashirama

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. He couldn't activate it once more at that time

It's because of this that warping the Susanoo user out of his Susanoo will leave him open since at that moment(the time to deactivate the jutsu and reactivate it), he couldn't use Susanoo

FTG is on the contrary instant. Do the math

FTG is instant, but if you think Minato will FTG away with susano'o, come back, and attack all within the 5 seconds or so lag... then idk. It's unknown how long it takes to deactivate and reactivate, so it's all speculation beyond this point, which i don't partake in.

 

[Bogard]

FTG is instant, but if you think Minato will FTG away with susano'o, come back, and attack all within the 5 seconds or so lag... then idk. It's unknown how long it takes to deactivate and reactivate, so it's all speculation beyond this point, which i don't partake in.

FTG away and come back? What are you talking about? He can do all what you mention with one FTG only. With one FTG warp, he can teleport the Susanoo user directly before him and finish him with a kunai or rasengan. One FTG is all what it takes for that to happen if he connected his chakra already, that's it. Also, speculation you say? On the contrary of you, i use mangafacts, so they aren't speculation since it has even be proven on multiple occasions. Activating and desactivating susanoo(especially the complete one) takes time and it's self explanatory actually

 

[blackstar9]

earth as a medium ?! i know you think minato is invincible but lets be serious. that whole using the earth thing is fanfiction. Your susanoo argument is lacking . If minato were to teleport a susanoo away , the user just reforms susanoo. If he wanted too . For people that say minato just teleports inside susanoo with ftg . i disagree without a kunai or the user being marked he cant teleport inside . also your assuming the susanoo user just stands there and does nothing . The susanoo user can attack from inside susanoo , while being protected . Now since we are talking uchiha genjutsu is a factor . minato fanboys say oh he wouldnt look at the uchihas eyes thats unlikely . in all of his encounters he looked at the opponant . and it only takes a glance to activate the genjutsu . in itachis case he can use finger and crow genjutsu . also itachi can also use clones himself

 

[Bogard]

earth as a medium ?! i know you think minato is invincible but lets be serious. that whole using the earth thing is fanfiction. Your susanoo argument is lacking . If minato were to teleport a susanoo away , the user just reforms susanoo. If he wanted too . For people that say minato just teleports inside susanoo with ftg . i disagree without a kunai or the user being marked he cant teleport inside . also your assuming the susanoo user just stands there and does nothing . The susanoo user can attack from inside susanoo , while being protected . Now since we are talking uchiha genjutsu is a factor . minato fanboys say oh he wouldnt look at the uchihas eyes thats unlikely . in all of his encounters he looked at the opponant . and it only takes a glance to activate the genjutsu . in itachis case he can use finger and crow genjutsu . also itachi can also use clones himself

@Bold and why is that? If he used Gamakichi as a medium, he can certainly do the same with earth. I see no difference actually

@underlined part not only it has nothing to do with my thread, but i can say the same thing concerning Itachi fanboys

 

[Rainbow Dash]

If Minato can extend his chakra and do his thang, then it kinda contradicts the purpose of his kunai. Otherwise, he wouldn't need to tell the Konoha fodders to throw his kunai in the battlefield.

 

[Bogard]

If Minato can extend his chakra and do his thang, then it kinda contradicts the purpose of his kunai. Otherwise, he wouldn't need to tell the Konoha fodders to throw his kunai in the battlefield.

Not really. The kunais are here as destination mark for his jutsu. Without markings, he can't teleport himself or things on area. The principe of the chakra extension has nothing to do with it. The chakra extension only helps Minato to have a certain contact with the opponent/things in order to teleport said opponent/thing to the markings or kunais already placed

 

[The Necromancer]

FTG away and come back? What are you talking about? He can do all what you mention with one FTG only. With one FTG warp, he can teleport the Susanoo user directly before him and finish him with a kunai or rasengan. One FTG is all what it takes for that to happen if he connected his chakra already, that's it. Also, speculation you say? On the contrary of you, i use mangafacts, so they aren't speculation since it has even be proven on multiple occasions. Activating and desactivating susanoo(especially the complete one) takes time and it's self explanatory actually

I don't think you understood what i meant. Minato has to physically travel WITH whatever he wishes to teleport. Meaning he has to travel with susano'o away, then back to the battle, unless you are saying he will travel a distance of a few feet away to a kunai he has placed. However my personal feelings on this fight are that Itachi wins via genjutsu, and if that somehow fails, Minato wins via stamina/hand-to-hand/FTG spam or whatever you wish to call it.

 

[GenKiDama]

@Bold and why is that? If he used Gamakichi as a medium, he can certainly do the same with earth. I see no difference actually

@underlined part not only it has nothing to do with my thread, but i can say the same thing concerning Itachi fanboys

on paper you can say that because there isn't much ammunition to say he can't but in NV it will never happen. It would completely overshadow the need for the ftg kunai and he wouldnt have used it in this war at all if he could just use the earth.

as for the minato vs itachi, I just don't see how minato answers itachi's genjutsu via eye contact or his hand.

 

[blackstar9]

@Bold and why is that? If he used Gamakichi as a medium, he can certainly do the same with earth. I see no difference actually

@underlined part not only it has nothing to do with my thread, but i can say the same thing concerning Itachi fanboys

its fanfiction cause gamakichi is not the planet earth !!!!!!!! big difference . you did not prove that a susanoo user cant reform susanoo . susanoo has been shown to be able to reform almost instantly considering itachi reformed it before kirin hit . which is a super fast jutsu . I forgot the speed zetsu said it travels . also like i mentioned your assuming the susanoo user is sitting there doing nothing . lastly minato can be caught in genjutsu in a matter of seconds it just takes a glance

 

[BlackFlame44]

Woah this puts base minato at a WHOLE new tier good thread minato is my fave hokage =D with hashirama being the 2nd:yeah:

 

[Bogard]

I don't think you understood what i meant. Minato has to physically travel WITH whatever he wishes to teleport. Meaning he has to travel with susano'o away, then back to the battle, unless you are saying he will travel a distance of a few feet away to a kunai he has placed. However my personal feelings on this fight are that Itachi wins via genjutsu, and if that somehow fails, Minato wins via stamina/hand-to-hand/FTG spam or whatever you wish to call it.

Physically travel with what he wants to teleport? Not really. It's basically the same principe he used when he teleported his original(having his chakra) next to him during this chapter. Seems that you don't grasp the principe of FTG, so i'd redirect you to this thread:

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[The Necromancer]

Physically travel with what he wants to teleport? Not really. It's basically the same principe he used when he teleported his original(having his chakra) next to him during this chapter. Seems that you don't grasp the principe of FTG, so i'd redirect you to this thread:

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Please. Don't lecture me. I actually gave you some credit before. Don't push it.

 

[ajpn920]

If Minato can extend his chakra and do his thang, then it kinda contradicts the purpose of his kunai. Otherwise, he wouldn't need to tell the Konoha fodders to throw his kunai in the battlefield.

You're wrong. The kunai itself which has the mark is the extension to his chakra. It did not contradict anything.

 

[johnny335704]

Minato's kunais are the marks for a long range where Minato can teleport instantly like Minato warped Juubi's TBB to ocean instantly.

While Minato extends his chakra in close range to save the people around him like he did with Naruto, Sasuke, Gamakichi. Maybe Hiruzen was away from his chakra extension so Minato left him because Hiruzen was at ground and Minato was on the top of Gamakichi. And Gamakichi is huge in size now so probably it was his out of reach.