Susanoo can't help against Minato's flying thunder god technique

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no, it doesn't cease to exist, but it's gone, temporarily, creating an opening for minato to attack the user.
the rematerialization of a susanoo takes time.

realistically if Minato could(I doubt it) but if he could warp susanoo away. Minato has nothing in his arsenal that could stop rib cage susanoo. FTG is instant but minato warping away then back is not instant.
 

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So how does Susanoo disappear from the user?
did you even read this thread, or anything i posted?
the answer has been posted a couple times now.

minato touches susanoo teleporting it away, or he teleports it away indirectly. read the OP for that.
 

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realistically if Minato could(I doubt it) but if he could warp susanoo away. Minato has nothing in his arsenal that could stop rib cage susanoo. FTG is instant but minato warping away then back is not instant.
lol what?
ribcage susanoo IS susanoo, just the pre-version. there are no 2 susanoos.

minato doesn't have to warp away with the target, he can send it away by itself.
minato touches tobiramas and hiruzens back and sends each of them to one of his ftg kunais.

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You have completely modified the words to your liking in the post. The scan specifically mentions "I or my Chakra are touching". Your statement is using the term connection, "connected to his chakra without contact." This itself is extending the FTG features, when Minato has not stated that at all. He has specifically used the term 'touch', which means a direct contact, not an extension of his chakra. You are completely incorrect here and so are the 1 and 2 pointers to justify this logic. The term touching would mean his Tag as it's made up of Chakra.

That Gaara statement is a half-hearted logic as ALL the sand around that area, including the one in Gaara's gourd was lightened by Onoki - . Henceforth, this argument is completely non-debatable.

Kurama was teleported because it was directly under him. Also, he may as well have thrown a Kunai on the Fox's head - touching an object with his chakra. If he CAN teleport himself out, he should be able to teleport objects marked with FTG Kunai or tags elsewhere as well, like himself. We never saw him do anything, so this part is speculation. It basically defeats the whole purpose of FTG which is supposed to be point to point teleportation of Minato teleporting to his Kunai. If he does have a range, then every time he teleports, other objects should teleport with him, regardless of his intentions, because whatever is within range, gets teleported.

He simply should have teleported Bee with him, together with Ae when they attacked as they were within his range, in fact mighty close. This would have given Konoha such a large edge. Through out that fight we saw Minato teleporting exactly to the Kunai, never attempting to teleport Bee or Ae. This isn't as simple as you believe.

Even if for a second I do believe you, then Susano'o is directly linked to the users chakra. He isn't teleporting any Susano'o user out of the Chakra manifestation, as it's directly linked to the user. That Gaara link you posted, proves this.

As for teleporting Sasuke and Susano'o because he was not in contact, then there is a very very simple explanation for that: KCM. We saw this with Naruto: . KCM Chakra does have a certain radius as it effected the area surrounding Naruto, when he was not touching it at all, which means he exudes chakra within a certain radius. Which means, since Minato is using KCM now, his chakra shroud should/would behave in a similar manner, which would explain WHY he he was able to teleport Sasuke and Naruto if he wasn't touching them.

You should not drop this out of your analysis as his KCM IS the most crucial point here. Anyhow, pretty good thread. Despite my disagreement, this was the best thread out of you.
 

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did you even read this thread, or anything i posted?
the answer has been posted a couple times now.

minato touches susanoo teleporting it away, or he teleports it away indirectly. read the OP for that.

You see you're basically struggling to testify your point. Minato can possibly teleport Susanoo indirectly but it hasn't been proven. Also the difference is that the chakra envelops around the user. You don't shoot Susanoo against the opponent. Why? Because it's a humanoid that protects you. The OP has some far-fetched parts to its theory. It has to be confirmed in order to be proven true.
 

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As for teleporting Sasuke and Susano'o because he was not in contact, then there is a very very simple explanation for that: KCM. We saw this with Naruto: . KCM Chakra does have a certain radius as it effected the area surrounding Naruto, when he was not touching it at all, which means he exudes chakra within a certain radius. Which means, since Minato is using KCM now, his chakra shroud should/would behave in a similar manner, which would explain WHY he he was able to teleport Sasuke and Naruto if he wasn't touching them.

You should not drop this out of your analysis as his KCM IS the most crucial point here. Anyhow, pretty good thread. Despite my disagreement, this was the best thread out of you.
so it's because of kcm? wrong!

prove:

minato can warp stuff without touching things directly, as long as an indirect connection exists.

prove 1:
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minato is indirectly connected to sasuke and naruto through gamakichi, but he still can warp them.


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minato is indirectly connected to the kyuubi and his tbb through gamabunta, be he still can warp him.


this proves that minato already used this kind of ability even before he got kcm.
 

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You see you're basically struggling to testify your point. Minato can possibly teleport Susanoo indirectly but it hasn't been proven. Also the difference is that the chakra envelops around the user. You don't shoot Susanoo against the opponent. Why? Because it's a humanoid that protects you. The OP has some far-fetched parts to its theory. It has to be confirmed in order to be proven true.

what about minato teleporting away susanoo by touching it directly?


here the prove:

minato touches tobiramas and hiruzens back and sends each of them to one of his ftg kunais.

before teleporting:
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after teleporting:
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lol what?
ribcage susanoo IS susanoo, just the pre-version. there are no 2 susanoos.

minato doesn't have to warp away with the target, he can send it away by itself.
minato touches tobiramas and hiruzens back and sends each of them to one of his ftg kunais.

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There are different stages of susanoo. The Ribs is all thats needed to block Minato's attacks. His strongest attack is basic rasengan.....
 

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There are different stages of susanoo. The Ribs is all thats needed to block Minato's attacks. His strongest attack is basic rasengan.....
doesn't matter, minato teleports away ribcage/complete susanoo.

susanoo can't defend against minato, because it can be send away.
 

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what about minato teleporting away susanoo by touching it directly?


here the prove:

minato touches tobiramas and hiruzens back and sends each of them to one of his ftg kunais.

before teleporting:
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after teleporting:
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Why are you posting the same post twice in a row. What i'm saying is how does FTG teleport the Susanoo away from the user? I know about Minato's FTG abilities, but the chakra that he so much talks about must be launched at him like the TBB.
 

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Why are you posting the same post twice in a row. What i'm saying is how does FTG teleport the Susanoo away from the user? I know about Minato's FTG abilities, but the chakra that he so much talks about must be launched at him like the TBB.

i'm posting it again and again, because you don't seem to get it.
i already posted the answer, but it seems you're just ignoring it.


minato used the s/t barrier to warp away the tbb and not, ftg.

ftg and s/t barrier are 2 different jutsus.

s/t barrier: warps away incoming attacks like tbb.

ftg: allows minato to teleport things away by touching it, or teleport to a mark, or create a marking by touch.
 
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i'm posting it again and again, because you don't seem to get it.
i already posted the answer, but it seems you're just ignoring it.


minato used the s/t barrier to warp away the tbb and not, ftg.

ftg and s/t barrier are 2 different jutsus.

s/t barrier: warps away incoming attacks like tbb.

ftg: allows minato to teleport things away by touching it, or teleport to a mark, or create a marking by touch.

Then Minato better have several Kage Bushing for it. You must be delusional if you think one Minato is going to remove Susanoo from the user. Until proven by Kishi he can't accomplish this feat. Besides im not saying anything about Minato's teleportation. He teleported the Hokages to the location of the Kunai. How is that proof that it can make Susanoo vanish around the user? No proof, whatsoever.
 

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For there to be a susano user they would have to have the sharingan, surely said dojutsu should be able to see this chakra.
Obviously he teleported naruto and sasuke, both having some form of chakra detection, but perhaps were caught up with the obito fracas therefore weren't paying much attention.

Its too early to say this.

Personally i believe he forms some form of chakra barrier where everything in that barrier (within his chakra) can be teleported. In that case, it will not pass a shinobi with some of chakra detection. ALso possible the range in which he could form this 'chakra barrier' should be limited as so far when he has done this the things he has teleported where not too far from him and that could explain why he couldn't teleport hiruzen

Dunno about the medium you speak of though
 
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Then Minato better have several Kage Bushing for it. You must be delusional if you think one Minato is going to remove Susanoo from the user. Until proven by Kishi he can't accomplish this feat. Besides im not saying anything about Minato's teleportation. He teleported the Hokages to the location of the Kunai. How is that proof that it can make Susanoo vanish around the user? No proof, whatsoever.
minato could remove susanoo by himself, he is fast enough, but he does have KBs, which makes this even easier.

susanoo is a physical object and can therefore be warped away. the manga also proved that susanoo can be apart from its user.


physical object: a tangible and visible entity; an entity that can cast a shadow. ( from google)
 
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minato could remove susanoo by himself, he is fast enough, but he does have KBs, which makes this even easier.

susanoo is a physical object and can therefore be warped away. the manga also proved that susanoo can be apart from its user.

Jutsus that effect the sight of the user, puts the user in a genjutsu, or pulling them away from the Susanoo. Please note that Susanoo is the users chakra itself. You can't teleport Susanoo without teleporting the user.
 

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Susanoo can't help ? How about Madaras Susanoo which has legs ? Or his PS. Even other Susanoos.. your arguments are speculations. He cannot teleport Susanoo..
 

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Susanoo can't help ? How about Madaras Susanoo which has legs ? Or his PS. Even other Susanoos.. your arguments are speculations. He cannot teleport Susanoo..

People who believe that Susanoo can magically disappear from the user because of Minato's FTG are delusional.
 

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Susanoo could easily protect someone from FTG since it's defenses are very strong and only the strongest attacks can break it.
 

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Jutsus that effect the sight of the user, puts the user in a genjutsu, or pulling them away from the Susanoo. Please note that Susanoo is the users chakra itself. You can't teleport Susanoo without teleporting the user.
do you have any prove?

the manga confirmed that susanoo can be apart from its user.
tsunade even tore off susanoos sword and slashed madara with it.
 

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FTG away and come back? What are you talking about? He can do all what you mention with one FTG only. With one FTG warp, he can teleport the Susanoo user directly before him and finish him with a kunai or rasengan. One FTG is all what it takes for that to happen if he connected his chakra already, that's it. Also, speculation you say? On the contrary of you, i use mangafacts, so they aren't speculation since it has even be proven on multiple occasions. Activating and desactivating susanoo(especially the complete one) takes time and it's self explanatory actually

I think he's referring to the fact that whenever Minato teleports something away, he teleports with it as far as we've seen.
 
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