Itachi can copy both FTG AND Minatos reflexes with the sharingan

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Sharingan can copy seals of a move it sees. This is how Itachi would copy FTG.

We also saw a 2-t and 1-t sasuke copy lees taijutsu speed. I am sure a 3-t/MS pair of eyes could copy minatos reflexes and speed.

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At this point, itachi can use all of minatos own kunai teleportation seals against him, at minatos speed. This is a big weakness for minato as he carries a bunch of these on his person at all times. itachi can then teleport directly to minato and 1-shot him with a kunai or whatever. Itachi after this fight would be even more powerful as he could now use FTG on demand.

Other Simple ways Itachi could defeat Minato


  • Tsukuyomi (minato has no knowledge, and has been seen looking into the eyes of his opponent every fight)
  • Finger genjutsu - this techinque doesn't even require the victim to look at the finger, it just instantly works
  • Koto, if itachi in his prime
 

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He cant copy ftg or his reflexes. its to quick for the sharingan to see?

not to mention the ftg does not requires seals it only requires a jutsu formula and a kunai
 

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Has itachi ever copied any jutsu?
 

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Why are you using a part 1 Naruto's manga page analyzing a Genin and 2-tomoe Sasuke, and applying it to Itachi copying a speed of Minato's?

You can't use this. The factors are too different to compare accurately.

Then there's the fact that, even though Itachi *could* copy the usage of FTG, only a select few ninja have the chakra to use it. Other ninja have to be within a group to use it effectively. So Itachi could learn what FTG is, but could not perform it by himself and expect it to be in his favor.

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People need to stop giving Itachi KA. That's not his, and it's no longer active at this point in time.
 
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Even if he can copy the seal.

A) He even skilled enough to use it to his advantage
B) He isnt fast enough to use it as a weapon
C) He has no projectiles to throw it with
D)He doesnt have any use for it
 

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Damn, Sasuke's fast .-. He needs to get in a damn taijutsu battle :noes:
 

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Why are you using a part 1 Naruto's manga page analyzing a Genin and 2-tomoe Sasuke, and applying it to Itachi copying a speed of Minato's?

You can't use this. The factors are too different to compare accurately.

At that point in time, Lee was to Minato as Sasuke was to Itachi. You're forgetting that while minato is leagues faster than lee in that scan, Itachi is also leagues better than sasuke in that scan.

OT: I doubt he could copy FTG, but his reflexes could be a possibility.
 

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You cannot copy speed and reflexes.

It took Sasuke a whole month to copy lees high speed, while training. Itachi cant do that in a battle.
 

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He cant copy the unique seal, just because the sharingan sees something doesn't mean it can copy it. Meteorite technique is a perfect example since its unique to rinnengan. (key word "unique") The sharingan cant copy everything
 

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Even if he can copy the seal.

A) He even skilled enough to use it to his advantage
B) He isnt fast enough to use it as a weapon
C) He has no projectiles to throw it with
D)He doesnt have any use for it

I'm pretty sure he is.

OT: imo I don't think he would be able to do it.
 

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At that point in time, Lee was to Minato as Sasuke was to Itachi. You're forgetting that while minato is leagues faster than lee in that scan, Itachi is also leagues better than sasuke in that scan.

There is no "at this point in time" because this analogy has too many variables; these ninja are vastly different from each other. "leagues better than Sasuke" is the difference of one tomoe sharingan, because the only thing Mangekyo Sharingan is documented to bestow are Ocular Jutsu techniques, not "faster sight detection".
 

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Why are you using a part 1 Naruto's manga page analyzing a Genin and 2-tomoe Sasuke, and applying it to Itachi copying a speed of Minato's?

You can't use this. The factors are too different to compare accurately.

Then there's the fact that, even though Itachi *could* copy the usage of FTG, only a select few ninja have the chakra to use it. Other ninja have to be within a group to use it effectively. So Itachi could learn what FTG is, but could not perform it by himself and expect it to be in his favor.

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People need to stop giving Itachi KA. That's not his, and it's no longer active at this point in time.

It's not fair to say 'oh well it might not work in another similar situation' because that's how the sharingan was defined to work in the actual manga. It was literally defined as such. Minato doesn't have any special speed enhancements so his reflexes can be copied.

Itachi may not be able to copy FTG since there aren't seals associated with it, but that's up in the air.
 

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Lol that was hilarious hahahahahhahahaha!......oh you were serious?
 

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So Itachi can magically copy and use FTG at Minato's level who studied Tobirama's FTG for years? alright.
 

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I'm pretty sure he is.

OT: imo I don't think he would be able to do it.

Minato in base speed was able to turn around and throw a kunai, while Raikage was at full speed directly at him.

Itachi hasnt showed a feat like that
 

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There is no "at this point in time" because this analogy has too many variables; these ninja are vastly different from each other. "leagues better than Sasuke" is the difference of one tomoe sharingan, because the only thing Mangekyo Sharingan is documented to bestow are Ocular Jutsu techniques, not "faster sight detection".

You mean to say years more of experience with the sharingan's ocular powers yields no improvement in the users efficiency? I disagree.
 

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this ^^^^
and to add on to it.... even if he could do you think hes just gonna master FTG like minato instantly
hes not kirby you fool

All sharingan users have the ability to copy jutsu.

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Look a sharingan user cant copy stamina or reflexes. as itachi stated that in part 1 that kakashi lacks the uchiha stamina for the sharingan and that something he cant copy.
 
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