Obito, the most overrated one out there

[ForbiddenUzumaki]

Despite the last manga, I still think people are wayy overrating him. Before I go any further, I'd just like to say that Obito is one of my favorite character but still I will have to go against his fanboys despite my different opinion about him.

Obito is overrated because of his Kamui. Of course Kamui is incredibly useful but some ninjas can still take him down if they manage to see how kamui works and counter it. Just a few ninja discovered how to counter it such as Minato,konan and Kakashi. What piss me off is the fact that Obito doesn't have both his sharingan. If he did, he would be OP as **** and I won't have any reason to complain but he doesn't.
If Obito had to go 1vs1 against Kakashi with ''full energie'', I'm sure Obito would hardly win but only because of Kakashi's low stamina compared to Obito who has senju DNA (kinda unfair but still). I'm sure the latest chapter showed how Kakashi outclass Obito in some extent and was always stronger than him since they first meet. Obito is a great villain and all (because of madara) but I can't see how people always putted him in the top 3. He's unskilled with his Rinnegan, haven't shown any feat with Mokuton since his rampage after seeing Rin dead and relies too much on Kamui.


Timeline:

-Always got owned by Kakashi when he was young.
-Lost to Minato even though he had intel on him when Minato didn't.
-''Died'' against konan, stolen sharingan saved his ass.
-Failed to capture Naruto despite all his attempts, even with the tailed beast.
-Beaten by Kakashi just like in the early days.
-Humiliated by Madara.


IMO, Obito is just that kind of guy that's super smart and will start a fight prepared, such as having the nine-tails in his control or the paths. His immense knowledge make's him a very dangerous guy and if you don't know how kamui works, your dead. However, if you do, you can pretty much cause him trouble and it's even worst when his opponent also has Kamui (Kakashi).


... If only Obito had both his eyes, he would be OP as ****. Maybe if he dies because of Madara, Kakashi will take his second eye as another gift from him to save the world or maybe the contrary will happen. In both case, he'll end up good.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Nagato is the one you should make a thread about, He is SOOOOOO damn underrated.

 

[Trollasaur]

He already is OP, and it's funny that you only state the bad things that's happend to him and most of them don't even matter. :/ lol

 

[3 Days Grace]

True fanboys overrate him alot

 

[ForbiddenUzumaki]

Nagato is the one you should make a thread about, He is SOOOOOO damn underrated.

I honestly think he's underrated but Kishi made him look like he isn't as strong as he should by simply by making him say that Jiraiya would have won if he knew the truth from the beginning and seeing how the strongest path had no chances against the Nine-Tails. Of course, the real Nagato like the revived one is another story but still.

 

[A$AP Wap]

I think Nagato could beat him.
People overrate him 'cause of Kamui. Which is BS.
My theory is that if Obito brings Nagato into Kamui world, Nagato kills him there, inserts his Chakra Rods into his body and commands Dead Obito to free him. I hate how you have one OP move and people think you're so OP.

Hashirama > Nagato > EMS Madara > Obito. The way I see it.

 

[Trollasaur]

I think Nagato could beat him.
People overrate him 'cause of Kamui. Which is BS.
My theory is that if Obito brings Nagato into Kamui world, Nagato kills him there, inserts his Chakra Rods into his body and commands Dead Obito to free him. I hate how you have one OP move and people think you're so OP.

Nagato > EMS Madara > Obito. The way I see it.

Why would take Nagatao to the kamui world and then go see Nagato in it? When Nagatos trying to kill, I understand nothing

 

[ForbiddenUzumaki]

He already is OP, and it's funny that you only state the bad things that's happend to him and most of them don't even matter. :/ lol

If we are reading the same manga, we can pretty much say his life is all about fails. The last page page of the manga clearly proves it.

 

[Bronze]

he is already number 1 with madara spot.

 

[Uchiha boii]

sasuke owns obito

 

[Trollasaur]

If we are reading the same manga, we can pretty much say his life is all about fails. The last page page of the manga clearly proves it.

So capturing 7 biju is a fail? Oh and gaining rinnegan is a fail too? What about destroying half of the ninja aliance? Thats a fail too hmm? What about becoming the best fire style user with Madara, also a fail I guess. Also Naruto could of capture Naruto here.

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[ForbiddenUzumaki]

sasuke owns obito

Well I think Sasuke can use Amaterasu as a defense against Kamui but I'm sure Obito has more knowledge about Sasuke's power than Sasuke himself. Would love to see that.

 

[Draphsin]

Timeline:

-Always got owned by Kakashi when he was young.
-Lost to Minato even though he had intel on him when Minato didn't.
-''Died'' against konan, stolen sharingan saved his ass.
-Failed to capture Naruto despite all his attempts, even with the tailed beast.
-Beaten by Kakashi just like in the early days.
-Humiliated by Madara.

Im sorry but I cant take your logic seriously, you're an obito fan? Give me a break........this right here proves that you arent.

Kakashi:
When Obito was young he always was behind, kakashi was a ninja that excelled in skill. However when obito unlocks his MS he far surpasses kakashi in power. & we all know that power > skill so thats why kamui makes such a difference. And for the record, obito was handicapped, he had no kamui, otherwise he would win with little difficulty. Lets take a look at how kakashi fares against obito with a

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shall we?

Minato :
Obito barely knew about FTG, he had one experience seeing it, thats it. Not only that but obito was still a teen who never utilized any genjutsu & he was using a slow kamui because he was being cocky (as shown from teens, example is sasuke who was extremely cocky). So obito didnt have much info but he did have some, & thats what I want to adress.

Konan:
& this is where your haterade starts to pour in, konan not only had full info on obito's kamui (more than anyone in the manga has ever gathered), but she had prep, prep that would kill anybody next to the top 10 pretty much. She also ran simulations, simulations that never failed. Yet with all of this info & prep she still managed to lose to obito (it doesnt matter how she lost, she still lost, I could say that sasuke's sharingan save him all the time U_U).

Naruto:

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, he failed because he had help, 1v1 & this would be over.

Madara:
Plot, kishi wants madara to be the main villain, so he trolled obito.

I hope i've opened your eyes, because your words are not that of an obito fan

 

[iFlowMotion]

A true fan indeed nice thread. I had to do the same thing for sasuke.

 

[ForbiddenUzumaki]

So capturing 7 biju is a fail? Oh and gaining rinnegan is a fail too? What about destroying half of the ninja aliance? Thats a fail too hmm? What about becoming the best fire style user with Madara, also a fail I guess. Also Naruto could of capture Naruto here.

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Please stop posting my boy, I really love Obito but your fanboyism as clearly taken over. Someone that was manipulated, completely brainwashed and went on a way different path than his original fate. All of that to Madara's benefit and his lost, isn't what I call a ''win''. By the way, Obito didn't even capture 1 Tailed Beast *sy*, the members of the akatsuki did. Maybe we can give him a point for the third tails but Deidara pretty much did all of it.

 

[Narubro]

Im sorry but I cant take your logic seriously, you're an obito fan? Give me a break........this right here proves that you arent.

Kakashi:
When Obito was young he always was behind, kakashi was a ninja that excelled in skill. However when obito unlocks his MS he far surpasses kakashi in power. & we all know that power > skill so thats why kamui makes such a difference. And for the record, obito was handicapped, he had no kamui, otherwise he would win with little difficulty. Lets take a look at how kakashi fares against obito with a

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shall we?

Minato :
Obito barely knew about FTG, he had one experience seeing it, thats it. Not only that but obito was still a teen who never utilized any genjutsu & he was using a slow kamui because he was being cocky (as shown from teens, example is sasuke who was extremely cocky). So obito didnt have much info but he did have some, & thats what I want to adress.

Konan:
& this is where your haterade starts to pour in, konan not only had full info on obito's kamui (more than anyone in the manga has ever gathered), but she had prep, prep that would kill anybody next to the top 10 pretty much. She also ran simulations, simulations that never failed. Yet with all of this info & prep she still managed to lose to obito (it doesnt matter how she lost, she still lost, I could say that sasuke's sharingan save him all the time U_U).

Naruto:

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, he failed because he had help, 1v1 & this would be over.

Madara:
Plot, kishi wants madara to be the main villain, so he trolled obito.

I hope i've opened your eyes, because your words are not that of an obito fan

^this. Also it's colorful

 

[Draphsin]

So all in all, the fact that you say obito lost against minato with little info, yet almost lost against konan who had full info & prep proves that you arent analyzing the situations enough to be called a "true" fan

 

[Trollasaur]

Please stop posting my boy, I really love Obito but your fanboyism as clearly taken over. Someone that was manipulated, completely brainwashed and went on a way different path than his original fate. All of that to Madara's benefit and his lost, isn't what I call a ''win''. By the way, Obito didn't even capture 1 Tailed Beast *sy*, the members of the akatsuki did. Maybe we can give him a point for the third tails but Deidara pretty much did all of it.

Obito created the atakuski pretty much I consider him creating the akatsuki his orginization, him capturing the beasts it was his plan from the begining well Madaras orginally but you know what I mean, and I can ensure you I am no fanboy, also what are your counters for my other points? Hmmmmmmmmmm

 

[nj tandi]

Obito....let's see shall we:
1) As a teen,extracted the nine-tails from Kushina, controlled it and summoned it.
2) Killed a whole bunch of kiri nin, which incidentally Kakashi couldn't do, but anyway, that was ages ago.
3)Controled the 4th Mizukage, the jinchukriki of the saanbi, like his pet. That's high level mastery of the sharingan.
4)Killed Konan, despite here having full intel on his Kamui and having loads of prep time.

And the stolen sharingan didn't save his ass, that's a hater talking nonsense, it was his mastery of the sharingan which allowed him to use Izanagi.

5)He summoned the Gedo Mazou, extracted and controlled 7 bijuu from it, advanced them to their full beast forms, fought Kakashi, Guy and Kyuubi mode Naruto, without any chakra boost, and still fought Kakashi. Kakashi for the record has had a huuuge boost from Naruto, so much so that he was able to Kamui the Hachibi......

As for stolen/ borrowed sharingan, and Kakashi kicking Obito's butt, he wouldn't have without Obito's sharingan in the first place. No doubt Kakashi is a great ninja, but saying he kicked Obito's butt is stupid. He had a huge chakra boost from Naruto and had Naruto and Guy also wearing Obito down. It's like he fought twice.

Skill wise, with the Sharingan, Obito would have to be one of the most talented ninja out there.

 

[ForbiddenUzumaki]

Im sorry but I cant take your logic seriously, you're an obito fan? Give me a break........this right here proves that you arent.

Kakashi:
When Obito was young he always was behind, kakashi was a ninja that excelled in skill. However when obito unlocks his MS he far surpasses kakashi in power. & we all know that power > skill so thats why kamui makes such a difference. And for the record, obito was handicapped, he had no kamui, otherwise he would win with little difficulty. Lets take a look at how kakashi fares against obito with a

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shall we?

Minato :
Obito barely knew about FTG, he had one experience seeing it, thats it. Not only that but obito was still a teen who never utilized any genjutsu & he was using a slow kamui because he was being cocky (as shown from teens, example is sasuke who was extremely cocky). So obito didnt have much info but he did have some, & thats what I want to adress.

Konan:
& this is where your haterade starts to pour in, konan not only had full info on obito's kamui (more than anyone in the manga has ever gathered), but she had prep, prep that would kill anybody next to the top 10 pretty much. She also ran simulations, simulations that never failed. Yet with all of this info & prep she still managed to lose to obito (it doesnt matter how she lost, she still lost, I could say that sasuke's sharingan save him all the time U_U).

Naruto:

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, he failed because he had help, 1v1 & this would be over.

Madara:
Plot, kishi wants madara to be the main villain, so he trolled obito.

I hope i've opened your eyes, because your words are not that of an obito fan

First of all, I never said I was a Obito ''fan'' but I really like that character above many others. I prefer people like Madara,Naruto,nagato way more..... I don't even

Kakashi:

So you're saying that not having Kamui isn't a handicap? Did you just...
Anyway, by your logic, Sasuke not having EMS and all it's abilities when he was young is an handicap. Samething for lee, him not using the eight gates against Gaara was an handicap *sy*. Those are power you acquire through your life, when Obito first got his MS of course he was stronger. He soloed all those ninjas after seeing rin dead, everyone on the base would agreed on how Obito was OP at that age but that doesn't change the fact that Kakashi was way more skilled and stronger ''naturally'' when they used to fight just like they showed in the flashback in the latest chapter. I was pointing out how Kakashi kicked his ass just like in the early days.

Minato :

What are you trying to say? Just admit it, that lost is a huge shame although a part of his plan worked (Uchiha's lost). Why are you desperately trying to say he had ''low'' intel? He already knew his new nickname and about his FTG. There isn't a million ways to describe how ftg works you know. He also saw all those feats another time way before they fought in Konoha when he was dealing with them at the birthplace. Stop your lame excuse.

Konan:

Really?, what are you complaining about ?
Konan still ''killed him''. How dare you find excuses when all of Obito's fights are about prep. He used the Nine-Tails, Zetsu and the paths yet no one complained but you complain about Konan's prep?
He also had knowledge about Konan's power/strength but he still underestimated her. He thought his Kamui was invisible and he had to pay for it. He also had Intel on Minato like I said previously which is also what I call prep. He knew what to expect against minato. Please stop my boy.

Naruto:

If it wasn't the the Tailed Beasts, if it wasn't for fighting and using clones everyone in the war, if it wasn't for all the exhaustion. I'm sure Naruto would have the power to at least survive like you're denying.

Madara:

Please stop my boy, your post is quite good but you are desperately defending Obito. Madara brainwashed him since they first meet and he used the black rods in his body (Madara's will) against him. Those powers were created by madara anyway. Madara is the true villain.