Obito, the most overrated one out there

[Trollasaur]

First of all, I never said I was a Obito ''fan'' but I really like that character above many others. I prefer people like Madara,Naruto,nagato way more..... I don't even

Kakashi:

So you're saying that not having Kamui isn't a handicap? Did you just...
Anyway, by your logic, Sasuke not having EMS and all it's abilities when he was young is an handicap. Samething for lee, him not using the eight gates against Gaara was an handicap *sy*. Those are power you acquire through your life, when Obito first got his MS of course he was stronger. He soloed all those ninjas after seeing rin dead, everyone on the base would agreed on how Obito was OP at that age but that doesn't change the fact that Kakashi was way more skilled and stronger ''naturally'' when they used to fight just like they showed in the flashback in the latest chapter. I was pointing out how Kakashi kicked his ass just like in the early days.

Minato :

What are you trying to say? Just admit it, that lost is a huge shame although a part of his plan worked (Uchiha's lost). Why are you desperately trying to say he had ''low'' intel? He already knew his new nickname and about his FTG. There isn't a million ways to describe how ftg works you know. He also saw all those feats another time way before they fought in Konoha when he was dealing with them at the birthplace. Stop your lame excuse.

Konan:

Really?, what are you complaining about ?
Konan still ''killed him''. How dare you find excuses when all of Obito's fights are about prep. He used the Nine-Tails, Zetsu and the paths yet no one complained but you complain about Konan's prep?
He also had knowledge about Konan's power/strength but he still underestimated her. He thought his Kamui was invisible and he had to pay for it. He also had Intel on Minato like I said previously which is also what I call prep. He knew what to expect against minato. Please stop my boy.

Naruto:

If it wasn't the the Tailed Beasts, if it wasn't for fighting and using clones everyone in the war, if it wasn't for all the exhaustion. I'm sure Naruto would have the power to at least survive like you're denying.

Madara:

Please stop my boy, your post is quite good but you are desperately defending Obito. Madara brainwashed him since they first meet and he used the black rods in his body (Madara's will) against him. Those powers were created by madara anyway. Madara is the true villain.

Although Obito admited he lost, Kakashi was stabbed as well and is wounded pretty badly, The latest chapter IMO showed that they were equals in the battle, that was presented. But hey thats just my opnion

 

[ForbiddenUzumaki]

Obito....let's see shall we:
1) As a teen,extracted the nine-tails from Kushina, controlled it and summoned it.
2) Killed a whole bunch of kiri nin, which incidentally Kakashi couldn't do, but anyway, that was ages ago.
3)Controled the 4th Mizukage, the jinchukriki of the saanbi, like his pet. That's high level mastery of the sharingan.
4)Killed Konan, despite here having full intel on his Kamui and having loads of prep time.

And the stolen sharingan didn't save his ass, that's a hater talking nonsense, it was his mastery of the sharingan which allowed him to use Izanagi.

5)He summoned the Gedo Mazou, extracted and controlled 7 bijuu from it, advanced them to their full beast forms, fought Kakashi, Guy and Kyuubi mode Naruto, without any chakra boost, and still fought Kakashi. Kakashi for the record has had a huuuge boost from Naruto, so much so that he was able to Kamui the Hachibi......

As for stolen/ borrowed sharingan, and Kakashi kicking Obito's butt, he wouldn't have without Obito's sharingan in the first place. No doubt Kakashi is a great ninja, but saying he kicked Obito's butt is stupid. He had a huge chakra boost from Naruto and had Naruto and Guy also wearing Obito down. It's like he fought twice.

Skill wise, with the Sharingan, Obito would have to be one of the most talented ninja out there.

I don't ever recalling saying he sucked. I said he was overrated. Period.