Wind vs Lightning: Which has stronger cutting properties?

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A pencil of all things does not cut. It stabs. The drawing shows that the chakra covering the kunai cut Obito's mask, not the kunai itself.

are you even serious!?!?
didn't you still understood that they both can cut and pierce!?!? :|
1 it's just stronger at cutting/slicing and the other at piercing... but both can doooo eeet....

 

[AzR]

which element cuts the chakra paper... wind of course.... so yeah..wind has more cutting power

 

[BlinkST]

are you even serious!?!?
didn't you still understood that they both can cut and pierce!?!? :|
1 it's just stronger at cutting/slicing and the other at piercing... but both can doooo eeet....

Who is saying wind chakra can't cut and pierce? You must be reading something else.

Kisame plainly states lightning is sharper, because of the vibrations it produces. He uses "pierce" because a pencil does not cut.

 

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I'm not sure what you're trying to say. The manga nor databook stated wind was sharper than Lightning. The databook states one of wind'ss strengths as an element is that it is good for a certain range of jutsu, which is what Asuma was communicating to Naruto. There's nothing stated about it being better at anything.

of course you're not sure about what I'm trying to say, because is just too much information for your brain to process and it must be already overheating.

and I also assume you can't interpretate a simple image!?!?

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[BestFriendsForever]

Wind is stringer against Lighting, so it's Wind....

 

[BenjerminGaye]

A pencil of all things does not cut. It stabs. The drawing shows that the chakra covering the kunai cut Obito's mask, not the kunai itself.

Oh my gosh the same 3 scans. If a pencil doesn't cut but pierce WHY DO YOU KEEP BRINGING IT UP? Show a scan off cutting please so we can get back to the topic of what cuts best.

Asuma already admitted that if he tried he would have pierced through the rock as well yet the scan you bring up is of a pencil that got stopped by a tree and snow

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And oh since u used this card i'll use it too "drawing error"

lol The kunai entered the dimension behind obito's mask and pierced the side as it slid to the front. the scan shows the kunai after it passed by. unless you're saying obito's foot is stronger than his mask.

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[BlinkST]

of course you're not sure about what I'm trying to say, because is just too much information for your brain to process and it must be already overheating.

and I also assume you can't interpretate a simple image!?!?

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That does not contradict what Kisame said.

Oh my gosh the same 3 scans. If a pencil doesn't cut but pierce WHY DO YOU KEEP BRINGING IT UP?

Because you are saying a blade when used for cutting would not benefit from Lightning's vibrations, only the stabbing, when the reason why Kisame used the term "pierce" was because it was a pencil. A pencil cannot cut. It can only stab.

Asuma already admitted that if he tried he would have pierced through the rock as well yet the scan you bring up is of a pencil that got stopped by a tree and snow

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Only a special kind of person would dismantle their own reasoning. You say the pencil was "stopped" by the snow, yet state it has to do with how hard they threw it in the first place.

 

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That doesn't not contradict what Kisame said.

who cares about what Kisame said about a god damn pencil, the guy is dead, let him rest in peace.

don't you see all that damn trees Temari cut with just 1 blow!?!? or is not convenient for you to see it!?!?
she's weaker than Bee, lets see if Bee can do that with a pencil..... xD

 

[BlinkST]

who cares about what Kisame said

Manga evidence. Someone who apparently has experience with either one, concluded the other was sharper, due to how it's vibrations enhance the cutting power. You choosing to believe Wind is sharper than lightning, contradicts what was stated in the manga: lightning chakra is sharper, regardless of how sharp wind chakra may be.

 

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Manga evidence. Someone who apparently has experience with either one, concluded the other was sharper, due to how it's vibrations enhance the cutting power. You choosing to believe Wind is sharper than lightning, contradicts what was stated in the manga: lightning chakra is sharper, regardless of how sharp wind chakra may be.

I really hope you're just trolling, cause no one can be that dense xD
seems most people agree with the fact that is wind better for cutting/slicing and lightning better for piercing. whatever you believe in does not concern me all that much to continue with this nonsense.

 

[BlinkST]

seems most people agree with the fact that is wind better for cutting/slicing and lightning better for piercing.

The manga [Kisame] plainly stated Lightning chakra is sharper, because it vibrates. If the blade is vibrating, the stabbing edge is not the only part of it that will benefit.

To insist Lightning chakra only enhances "piercing", based on what Kisame said in regards to a pencil, is nothing but a failure to exercise proper critical thinking, and more about being biased.

Have a better day.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Because you are saying a blade when used for cutting would not benefit from Lightning's vibrations, only the stabbing, when the reason why Kisame used the term "pierce" was because it was a pencil. A pencil cannot cut. It can only stab.

ive showed scans that proved that when encountering other blades/other things surrounded by chakra the vibrations doesn't help it cut better. Raikage proves this:

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Mifune proves this:

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Only a special kind of person would dismantle their own reasoning. You say the pencil was "stopped" by the snow, yet state it has to do with how hard they threw it in the first place.

1)Killer be was aiming to kill. So saying he didn't throw it that hard is moot.
2) Asuma wasn't aiming to kill only to prove a point.
3)asuma said "It can get dangerous so I limited my chakra use if i tried it would go through the rock as well" Meaning the only reason It DIDN'T go through was because he didn't make it sharp enough. Nothing about how had he threw it to begin with. So point 1 and 2 aren't even necessary.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

I really hope you're just trolling, cause no one can be that dense xD
seems most people agree with the fact that is wind better for cutting/slicing and lightning better for piercing. whatever you believe in does not concern me all that much to continue with this nonsense.

he really is. His entire argument is centered around 3 scans and word of mouth from a suiton(not even futon )user.

 

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The manga [Kisame] plainly stated Lightning chakra is sharper, because it vibrates. If the blade is vibrating, the stabbing edge is not the only part of it that will benefit.

To insist Lightning chakra only enhances "piercing", based on what Kisame said in regards to a pencil, is nothing but a failure to exercise proper critical thinking, and more about being biased.

Have a better day.

let Kisame rest in peace man.
and yes pencils are dangerous, don't play with them. specially is they have lightning around it.

he really is. His entire argument is centered around 3 scans and word of mouth from a suiton(not even futon )user.

lol yeah, all his argument revolves around Kisame xD

 

[BlinkST]

ive showed scans that proved that when encountering other blades/other things surrounded by chakra the vibrations doesn't help it cut better.

You've shown examples of them cancelling each other.

If chakra and vibrations did not improve cutting power, the Chidori blade not be called "unblock-able", nor plainly stated to be enhanced thanks to Chidori.

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It has nothing to with the tip of the blade, either. Chidori itself is not limited to stabbing.

1)Killer be was aiming to kill. So saying he didn't throw it that hard is moot.

None of that matters. There's no purpose in showing a weapon piercing the ground, which they both stopped at.

 

[AzR]

he really is. His entire argument is centered around 3 scans and word of mouth from a suiton(not even futon )user.

ohh dude!... now i get it... B use raiton to increase the penetrative power of that pencil because the ones that oscilates is the pencil... hoho

 

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None of that matters. There's no purpose in showing a weapon piercing the ground, which they both stopped at.

Yet the only reason asuma's stopped was because he stated that he didn't throw it hard because he was simply giving an example, Your just assuming bee did the same even though he was trying to kill.

If your trying to kill someone, You won't throw such a thing softly.

 

[BlinkST]

Yet the only reason asuma's stopped was because he stated that he didn't throw it hard because he was simply giving an example, Your just assuming bee did the same even though he was trying to kill.

If your trying to kill someone, You won't throw such a thing softly.

It doesn't matter how hard it's thrown. When it meets resistance [Trees, gravity and such] it will inevitably lose power. Even a bullet will not pass through the ground after it travels, nor do you take into account aiming and precision. I'm not sure what's the point of this.

 

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It doesn't matter how hard it's thrown. When it meets resistance [Trees, gravity and such] it will inevitably lose power. Even a bullet will not pass through the ground after it travels, nor do you take into account aiming and precision. I'm not sure what's the point of this.

Yet once bee's attack met Resistance (The Tree) it basically stopped not far from it, Asuma's only stopped due to hitting a rock after it had broken through the Tree.

So i can assume that asuma's blade would've kept on going after the Tree (unlike Bee's) if the rock wasn't there. Even though he wasn't trying as was stated.

If Asuma did the same thing with intent to kill, It not only would've broke the Tree and gone further that Bee's pencil is would also have broken a rock and anything else in it's path.

Took one Tree to stop Bee's attack with intent to kill, While Asuma's attack with intent to kill wouldn't gone through the Tree and the rock.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

You've shown examples of them cancelling each other.

If chakra and vibrations did not improve cutting power, the Chidori blade not be called "unblock-able", nor plainly stated to be enhanced thanks to Chidori.

It isn't unblock able. Many have blocked it. Raikage, killer b, mifune. In fact anyone who can run chakra through their weapons(not even elemental mifune is proof) can block it.
But when it comes to wind asuma already said the sharper blade will win. Vibrations wont make your blade sharper but wind chakra will.

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It clearly says "it can pierce everything" but what does it say about cutting?"it can cut through steel." they separate this because like ive said many times before and many times again( im positive you won't get it) cutting and piercing aren't synonymous.

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It has nothing to with the tip of the blade, either. Chidori itself is not limited to stabbing.

yet when its not being used to stab its significantly weaker.

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None of that matters. There's no purpose in showing a weapon piercing the ground, which they both stopped at.

No no no bubu. SNOW not the ground. while asmua would have went straight through the rock regardless of momentum