Tobirama is the weakest Kage

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Died to fodder ninjas from the mist
Couldn't beat an 80 year old man
Couldn't break out of oro's control
Only defeated one ninja worth mentioning and only because he got a lucky hit, which later became infected.
No support techinques
suiton techinques unimpressive
weak edo tensei, oro and kabuto both vastly improved it.
His FTG was much worse then minatos.

Even when looking at other villages, he's a weak kage. Gaara, Onoki, Trollkage, Muu, 3rd and 4th raikage all seem far out of his league. And the current kage, tsundare can heal tons of people at once, has super strength and super healing, making her excellent support, and a very powerful kage.

Do you think most kage level ninjas would die to a bunch of weak ninjas? only the gin kin brothers were of note, and darui beat them. Minato would have easily wiped them out, hashirama would have wiped them out, even hiruzen prime and tsundre would have won with help from their summons. Not tobirama though, he doesn't even have a summoning contract as far as we know. he was truly the weakest and least memorable kage; that's why kishi decided to leave him out of the plot until now.
 

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First of all your over exaggerating a lot of his faults.

Second as much as I hate to admit it Tsunade is the weakest.
 

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Have you not seen his fur!? He is the Prada King, he cannot be killed by scrub shinobi U_U
 

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Nah, he can beat Tsunade.
 

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Yes!

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Wait, no...

Hokage level > Kage level. This fact alone puts him above most of the Kages.


Nah, he can beat Tsunade.

Katsuyu solos him.
 
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"Prime Hiruzen" does not exist. We only know of the old ass "Professor". Tsunade is the weakest, followed by Hiruzen.
 

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Stopped reading when you said he died to fodder ninja of the Mist. I didn't know that fodder Mist ninja = A force of 20 S-Rank Jounin from Kumogakure.
 

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First of all your over exaggerating a lot of his faults.

Second as much as I hate to admit it Tsunade is the weakest.

Tsundare has shown way more feats then tobirama has. he's done nothing but lose fights and complement minato.

he's amazing if your thristy imo

A water bottle is more useful then tobirama, you have to give tobirama food whereas a water bottle just needs water.

Nah, he can beat Tsunade.

Slug summon > tobirama
 

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wow... so much hate in one post...

first off he face 20 elite ninja.. which included ginkaku and kinkaku ..
his water techs are said to be one of the best within the series..
he created edo tensei oro put talismans in them the first time so both hashi and tobirama could not escape.. this was also one of the only reason hiruzen defeated them... and that is only because he had to resort to RDS

.. doesnt matter what u say really tobirama still defeated a strong ninja.. izuna was no weakling .. not to mention his space time techs aswell

i would easily rate tobirama the third strongest kage

Stop hatin bro :cool:
 

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1.Hashirama
2.Minato
3.Tobirama
4.Hiruzen
5.Tsunade
 

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He's stronger than than tsunade other than that he is the weakest, his suiton abilities are better than everyone in the anime. They weren't mist ninja they were the kinkau force which are master bounty hunters !!
 

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Stopped reading when you said he died to fodder ninja of the Mist. I didn't know that fodder Mist ninja = A force of 20 S-Rank Jounin from Kumogakure.

minto defeat elite mist ninjas as if he was just grabbing a beer from the fridge.

wow... so much hate in one post...

first off he face 20 elite ninja.. which included ginkaku and kinkaku ..
his water techs are said to be one of the best within the series..
he created edo tensei oro put talismans in them the first time so both hashi and tobirama could not escape.. this was also one of the only reason hiruzen defeated them... and that is only because he had to resort to RDS

.. doesnt matter what u say really tobirama still defeated a strong ninja.. izuna was no weakling .. not to mention his space time techs aswell

i would easily rate tobirama the third strongest kage

Stop hatin bro :cool:

tobirama has literally done nothing other then shoot a small water gun attack with his supposedly 'best' suiton user status. even fishface aktusksi member was doing techs x100 what he pulled off.

and if he had anything like fishface, or any of the akuski members, he wouldn't have died, but he did. he wasn't strong.
 
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Died to fodder ninjas from the mist
Couldn't beat an 80 year old man
Couldn't break out of oro's control
Only defeated one ninja worth mentioning and only because he got a lucky hit, which later became infected.
No support techinques
suiton techinques unimpressive
weak edo tensei, oro and kabuto both vastly improved it.
His FTG was much worse then minatos.

Even when looking at other villages, he's a weak kage. Gaara, Onoki, Trollkage, Muu, 3rd and 4th raikage all seem far out of his league. And the current kage, tsundare can heal tons of people at once, has super strength and super healing, making her excellent support, and a very powerful kage.

Do you think most kage level ninjas would die to a bunch of weak ninjas? only the gin kin brothers were of note, and darui beat them. Minato would have easily wiped them out, hashirama would have wiped them out, even hiruzen prime and tsundre would have won with help from their summons. Not tobirama though, he doesn't even have a summoning contract as far as we know. he was truly the weakest and least memorable kage; that's why kishi decided to leave him out of the plot until now.

If you're talking about the edo kage's then Hiruzen is the weakest. If you're talking about all time, then it's Tsunade.
 

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He's stronger than than tsunade other than that he is the weakest, his suiton abilities are better than everyone in the anime. They weren't mist ninja they were the kinkau force which are master bounty hunters !!

gin kin brothers were killed by darui, and if the rest of the kinkau force was so strong why didn't they kill the entire village?
 

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but no really this thread is bs we dont really know much about him and he's still greater than tsunade and hiruzen
 

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If you're talking about the edo kage's then Hiruzen is the weakest. If you're talking about all time, then it's Tsunade.

Tsunade slug summon > tobirama
Monkey summon > tobirama
 

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Laugh my ass off you are funny.

1. We do not know how he died. Ninny.

2. He was barely half powered as an edo, and Orochimaru couldn't beat Hiruzen either.

3. Neither could Minato or Hiruzen. In that aspect, Hashi > Tobi > Minato > Hiruzen.

4. Lucky hit? Hiraishingiring an MS user takes skill. <3

5. Suiton is great for support. Ninny.

6. He did a jutsu that requires 44 Handseals in 1 Handseal as a half powered Edo. Ninny.

7. He invented it, and we have not seen him use it. Kabuto and Oro edo tensei are almost perfect so ya, I bet they do have better Edo. No other Kage has Edo Tensei though so.......your a ninny.

8. Much worse? I doubt it. It is worse but not by that much.

He lifted 1 finger and made Suigetsu piss his pants, and scared Kage level ninja. Hashirama was the only one that was un-afraid. He is either 2nd or 3rd strongest Kage, not the weakest. LMFAO.
 
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