Tobirama is the weakest Kage

[bigfatloser]

You're just a hater .

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yeah you would avoid contributing to the topic

 

[Naruto KM V2]

Bro, fail thread you know he is awesome
1. Hashirama
2.minato
3.tobirama
4. Hiruzen
5. Tsunade

 

[The Gifted One]

Tobirama is the third strongest hokage. Tsunade is the weakling among the hokages, hiruzen is a weakling too,but just a lil above tsunade

 

[Ababeel]

And your grammar is terrible
Lol you really are retarded.

- Well, i still try to learn this language, I won't argue with you about that. lol
- Well, being retarded is still much better than being YOU, a worthless thing. =D

but anyway, that's my opinion, you don't have to agree. have a nice day. :bouncy:

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

Nice post, but

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OT: The weakest Hokage is Tsunade. The weakest kage? Dk, maybe Mei

Well there isn't any proof I'd agree. Though this would be all I have to say on that...since Minato doesn't have the Senju DNA nor have the Namikaze been rumored to have powerful chakra, it's safe to assume that he likely cannot break it through sheer force or will like Hashirama.

However, I would bet Minato will likely have a Uzumaki fuinjutsu to deal with it if the threat arrives.....of course since Orochimaru broke off from them Tobirama may have just told him the seals to unseal it.

But like you said...no definitive proof.

 

[TheEvilOne]

How can be Tsunade the weakest Hokage when her hype is greater than Hiruzen's?

 

[Vandenreich]

- Well, i still try to learn this language, I won't argue with you about that. lol
- Well, being retarded is still much better than being YOU, a worthless thing. =D

but anyway, that's my opinion, you don't have to agree. have a nice day. :bouncy:

You need to study harder, or use google translate or something.

 

[Chief Keef]

Dis n*gga got some nerve...

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

Suigetsu is a little baby who whines about everything

Tobirama has no way of defeating anyone who is actually strong. Didn't that dragon water jutsu take like 44 handseals? and it sucked. So yeah that's not impressive either.

If that was tobirama at half power, then full power tobirama is only 2x as strong as he was when he fought hiruzen, which isn't very strong.

Only tobirama actually tried to escape oro's control, we don't know if minato or hiruzen could.

We know he died to a weak force of ninja hit men.

1. Is using his jutsu to fight no longer an option for defeating strong opponents?! As that's what he'd do to defeat them. He used the jutsu that takes others 44 seals in one seal, and from what I recall it took a Hokage using defensive Jutsu to deflect it....on top of that it came with no body of water being present and at a fraction of his

2. It wasn't half power, but a FRACTION of it. Now yes 1/2 is a fraction, but Tobirama would have said half. The fact he didn't indicates and implies it's much smaller than one half. If you need further proof compare the Hashiramas...does it appear that only half of Hashirama was used in that battle. power.

3. Tobirama did not attempt to escape, he merely had the power to ignore the orders. It took Senju DNA of Hashirama to just stop him from moving. Tobirama didn't even use the hand seals to break the contract....he just did what Hashirama has done. He could have done what Madara did and just used the hand seals to break the contract. Considering he invented it...he ought to know how it operates.

4. As I explained he died being a target that was trying to gain the attention of (not kill) the Kinkaku Force. On top of 20 or so elite S-Rank criminals/bounty hunters....probably including Kakuzu with Kinkaku and Ginkaku. He had to contain them while drawing them away....a tough way to go without dying honestly.

 

[yondaime4]

While i dont think tobirama is weak by any meams imo he was the worst kage, i mean he didnt actually accomplish anything, tobirama fanboys say he made edo tensei like that helped the village. killing izuna was his only feat and ill give it to him because i think izuna would have been strong. but as a kage he failed hard, hes the reason itachi had to kill his clan and he gave madara the means to come back. wost kage ever

 

[Hatsumomo]

How you dare compare Tsunade with him??? He died fighting against 20 highly skilled shinobi, Tsunade wasn't able deal with Orochimaru and Kabuto even with Jiraiya's, Shizune's and Naruto's help...
by the way he was the first in the history who used and invented the Edo Tensei and he died young so he couldn't finish it...
and what do you want with: ''Only defeated one ninja worth mentioning and only because he got a lucky hit''. You mean Izuna??? That Izuna who was the strongest member of the Uchiha clan with except of Madara?
Orochimaru was able to controll him just because his body was created almost completely by Hashirama's cells and when he was summoned for the first time his power was drastically limited.
By the way FTP is not an ability possessed by everyone, Minato was a genius, but it not means Tobirama was not.
Even Suigetsu described him as one of the 4 strongest zombies.

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

She beats Hiruzen with low difficulty. The old man has poor stamina and he has nothing to take her down.

She defeats Mei with mid difficulty. Tsunade is faster, she most likely can blizt Mei and punch her head off.

She defeats Ay with high difficulty, the 4th Kazekage with high difficulty, the featless Tobirama with mid difficulty, the featless Yagura with low difficulty, her battle with Gaara and Minato can go either way with certain restrictions.

if Oro who's slightly weaker than her barely won who can Tsunade win with low diff? _@:

While i dont think tobirama is weak by any meams imo he was the worst kage, i mean he didnt actually accomplish anything, tobirama fanboys say he made edo tensei like that helped the village. killing izuna was his only feat and ill give it to him because i think izuna would have been strong. but as a kage he failed hard, hes the reason itachi had to kill his clan and he gave madara the means to come back. wost kage ever

he inspired Hiruzen and Danzou with his self-sacrifice
the reason why they became selfless shinobis who had no problem dying for Konoha is Tobirama
even though I'm not a fan of him he deserves respect for his actions

 

[TheEvilOne]

if Oro who's slightly weaker than her barely won who can Tsunade win with low diff? _@:

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Orochimaru didn't even used his full power.
And don't use A > B > C logic. Tsunade is simply a worse match- up than Orochimaru was.

 

[Penguin]

She beats Hiruzen with low difficulty. The old man has poor stamina and he has nothing to take her down.

She defeats Mei with mid difficulty. Tsunade is faster, she most likely can blizt Mei and punch her head off.

She defeats Ay with high difficulty, the 4th Kazekage with high difficulty, the featless Tobirama with mid difficulty, the featless Yagura with low difficulty, her battle with Gaara and Minato can go either way with certain restrictions.

Tobirama beats Tsunade low diff. Come at me.

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

Orochimaru didn't even used his full power.
And don't use A > B > C logic. Tsunade is simply a worse match- up than Orochimaru was.

he used his strongest jutsu and 2 shadow clones were able to handle it
why is Tsunade a worse match?
please explain

 

[Exaar]

Yes!

.....

Wait, no...

Hokage level > Kage level. This fact alone puts him above most of the Kages.

That logic is bad.

Simply being hokage does not put you above most other kages, Unless you also going to claim Tsunade is above The Current and Past kages.

How can be Tsunade the weakest Hokage when her hype is greater than Hiruzen's?

Oh really?.

Hype: God of Shinobi, Strongest hokage, In his weakened state he was still said to be the strongest of the Kages during that time.

 

[Infinite Yaoi Emperor]

We barely even know his powers, and haven't seen him in a full fight. This thread is pointless.

 

[BladerItachi]

Tobirama would silence Tsunade like he did to Hashirama Lol

OT: Nope, Tobirama is definitely not the weakest. I mean creator of Edo-tensei, Space-time Ninjutsu, Master Suiton Jutsu
alone puts him above the others, except Hashirama maybe!

He fought against Madara's brother and won.... Uchiha Madara's brother who should definitely be one of the strongest Uchiha going by logic so any reasons why he isn't is BS

 

[TheEvilOne]

he used his strongest jutsu and 2 shadow clones were able to handle it
why is Tsunade a worse match?
please explain

1. He didn't used his bosns summons. He didn't used the gathering of the 10.000 snakes. He didn't used the hydra mode.
2. Tsunade's fighting style is extremely destructive. Hiruzen is slow ( same speed as Sakura ), so he won't be able to fully dodge a heavenly kick of pain. The shockwaves of Tsunade's punch/kick would throw him off balance.

Furthermore Tsunade's stamina is better. With her Yin seal outlasting Hiruzen shouldn't be a problem. Hiruzen used 2 shadow clones and two B rank elemental techniques and he run out of chakra. Tsunade healed a whole village without showing the signs of fatigue.

 

[Bijuu13]

*Gasp* How dare you ! Take your stupidity elsewhere.

He has the least feats, not the weakest

Tsunade takes that title