[Question] Can, Luffy Beat Doflamingo?

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Oye Mr. Baka kun.... if you read it properly I have placed akainu above luffy and Aokiji is at the same level as luffy. If luffy was between Admiral and Vice-admiral he won't go around challenging yonkou like they were shit. 1 yonkou was enough to bring down an entire Marine HQ even with the shichibukai present. And you think luffy would be challenging them with a group of 10 (and risk loosing all of them again) if he was not strong..... Baka ka umaira??

You just said that Luffy could beat Aokiji, you can stop now you're obviously high as hell.

Also it never stopped him from challenging WhiteBeard pre timeskip so yeah read the manga.
 

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You just said that Luffy could beat Aokiji, you can stop now you're obviously high as hell.

Also it never stopped him from challenging WhiteBeard pre timeskip so yeah read the manga.

woot?? when did I say woot??
 

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woot?? when did I say woot??

I believe that, Luffy is about 2-3 levels below, Aokiji.
Aokiji, may be admiral level but he's at one of the highest of admiral levels. I guess I can say High or Super High admiral level? Once, Luffy defeats, Doflamingo he should be at least 1-2 levels from, Aokiji. He's catching up if you ask me.

I don't think, Luffy and Aokiji will ever fight either so that's something that may be unknown throughout the entire series.
 

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I'm not tryna argue with you since I kinda respect you as a base member but really I just can't see Luffy beating Aokiji

I did not say luffy beats aokiji... O__O how did you get that??
 

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I believe that, Luffy is about 2-3 levels below, Aokiji.
Aokiji, may be admiral level but he's at one of the highest of admiral levels. I guess I can say High or Super High admiral level? Once, Luffy defeats, Doflamingo he should be at least 1-2 levels from, Aokiji. He's catching up if you ask me.

I don't think, Luffy and Aokiji will ever fight either so that's something that may be unknown throughout the entire series.

Aokiji resigned as admiral so I could possibly see him helping the strawhats one day, or idk he might just appear later on in the manga to kick ass but yeah Fujitora is probably low admiral level
 

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You said you place Akainu above luffy and Aokiji at the same level as Luffy

When 2 things are of the same level they end up in a stalemate. And if a fight occurs between 2 people of the same level it is bound to go either way >_> after a really drawn out battle. Like between Aokiji and Akainu.

Between Luffy and Dofla though according to my opinion it will be luffy and I also said it will not be a cakewalk...
 

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You said you place Akainu above luffy and Aokiji at the same level as Luffy

You have it all wrong. He didn't. You didn't read it correctly. He used the highest number as the strongest and numbers below that the at a lower level.
 

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I'm just saying Law is probably on equal standing with Luffy, that's how Oda designed it, just because law can't go gear second and get super speed doesn't mean that luffy automatically wins. First off Law hasn't been training with Haki as luffy has so going against a Logia type would of course be somewhat difficult for him, not like Law was even going all out on that fight. Also you need to learn how to write correctly, you put like 7 commas in a 3 sentence paragraphs yikes.

I know xD She doesn't know how to use commas properly, and it's annoying as hell.
 

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I doubt he's going to be worn out like he was with, Lucci.
That was more of a special case. Luffy, isn't going to go down that easily in his first major fight in the NW.
This is crucial to, Luffy's new hype. I'm sure he's going to get messed up really bad but I'm sure he'll be able to move decently after the fight is over.
Why are you doubting Doflamingo's abilities, hes a formidable opponent as we saw in marineford and punk-hazard. He isn't someone you mess with, you're right it is needed to hype up Luffy but right now I don't think Luffy needs any hyping. This is a bit off-topic but I want to see Chopper and Usopp going all out, just like in alabasta.
 

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Why are you doubting Doflamingo's abilities, hes a formidable opponent as we saw in marineford and punk-hazard. He isn't someone you mess with, you're right it is needed to hype up Luffy but right now I don't think Luffy needs any hyping. This is a bit off-topic but I want to see Chopper and Usopp going all out, just like in alabasta.

This is a stupid question. Use your common sense. I never such a thing.
 

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When 2 things are of the same level they end up in a stalemate. And if a fight occurs between 2 people of the same level it is bound to go either way >_> after a really drawn out battle. Like between Aokiji and Akainu.

Between Luffy and Dofla though according to my opinion it will be luffy and I also said it will not be a cakewalk...

I have to disagree, Luffy has a ways to go before he could even stalemate Aokiji, his powers are too formidable at the moment, yeah but he's bound to defeat Doflamingo as the story demands it right now
 

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This is a stupid question. Use your common sense. I never such a thing.

What question? o_O Do you mean why are you doubting Doflamingo's abilities? To that yes you are doubting him. I never said Luffy will never beat him, I'm just saying he won't beat him on his first try (if they fight in this arc).
 
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It's a bit weird how so many people think Luffy will lose, when in fact it makes sense since it will help progress the story and lead Luffy to fight with stronger enemies.

Look if Luffy defeats Doflamingo the joker, the one who's involved with every major shady business in the One Piece world who do you thinks going to want Luffy's head? Yonkou's.

Not to mention the idea of people thinking Luffy will need another time skip to defeat Doflamingo is absurd how weak do you think Luffy is? Also how strong do you think Doflamingo is? You make it sound like he's on a level with the Admirals and Yonkou's.

A reasonable prediction would be Luffy might be defeated once...I'd push it to maybe twice but he'd defeat Doflamingo in the exact same arc and the strawhats have bigger problems than just one Warlord.
 

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What question? o_O Do you mean why are you doubting Doflamingo's abilities? To that yes you are doubting him. I never said Luffy will never beat him, I'm just saying he won't beat him on his first try (if they fight in this arc).

You don't know what I doubt because you can't read my mind. Don't say such silly things, and just to help you out I don't doubt his powers, I believe in, Luffy's power.

The question you should be asking is the none sense of people here saying that, Luffy can't beat him. You shouldn't be asking me this question. The fact that I didn't say I doubt, Doflamingo makes it quite obvious that you are picking at my judgment because you don't like it and that's why you asked a question that made no sense.

Let me enlighten you on something you can't seem to figure out.
Oda, has been slowly revealing, Doflamingo's powers. You have noticed right? Do I really have to bring you manga images to show you? Why has he been doing such a thing? He never did in the past, correct? The higher a persons common sense the closer they come to the correct answer. The lower a persons common sense the more many answers they get which can have answers that are all wrong or just one is correct. Here's the correct sensible answer. He's planning to reveal all his power when, Luffy and him fight because this is the arc in which he gets defeated by the future pirate king.

At the same time the only thing that can make, Luffy's fight with him a possible 1 loss is, Doflamingo's abilities being mysterious. Now, look at the paragraph I typed above. Understand now?

Now another thing you must feed your common sense is the fact that, Trafalgar Law ally to, Monkey D. Luffy is about to end up in a confrontation which will most likely result in an all out fight that will obviously not last long due to what I've said before, Law is near, Smokers level of strength and, Doflamingo laid him out instantly. He stands no chance but one benefit he can gain from this fight is figuring out how, Doflamingo's DF ability works. Due to the obvious fact that, Trafalgar Law won't be finished off due to an interruption from some bad ass heading towards, Green Bit he will escape with that information and possibly tell, Luffy.

Another thing you must remember is that, Luffy is a haki user and he has observation type. The force of, Doflamingo's strings wont always hit him since he will be able to sense how and where the attack will come from and because of that observation he will figure out that it's strings that are being used by, Doflamingo. He will be able to dodge them due to his observation. Any fighter with enough common sense which we may call a genius can figure out exactly what to do to fight against a DF ability such as, Doflamingo's. The part where I explained about how, Smoker can't even see, Luffy's top speed shows that, Luffy is on an entirely different level than, Smoker. All of you guys can only speculate. You can only guess with baseless information.

I have explained my many details and my reasoning as to why, Luffy would win this fight due to the fact that most of you do not have enough common sense and you keep pushing me to tell you more information. Details are a key and knowledge is power.

Again, do I have to continue telling you guys more details? All you need to do is use your common sense and look for details.

EDIT: So far from the information I have now my only guess as to what the fruit, Doflamingo ate is the Puppet Puppet Fruit. That's all I can think of now from what I've seen in details of the revealing of his abilities. I can come up with a better answer if we see more of his powers.

Doflamingo, may say. "I ate the Puppet Puppet Fruit, I'm a Puppet man."
 
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The fact that Luffy is beating Doflamingo in this arc, makes no sense. He should not be able to progress this fast, in case you haven't know we still have a strong 8-10 years to go.
 

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The fact that Luffy is beating Doflamingo in this arc, makes no sense. He should not be able to progress this fast, in case you haven't know we still have a strong 8-10 years to go.

Do I need to explain this to you as well?
 

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Do I need to explain this to you as well?

What's with your b!tchy attitude? Do we have to explain this to you as well? You're so arrogant. I even try being nice because I believe everyone deserves a second chance and can be changed for the better by being nice to them but wow.
 

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What's with your b!tchy attitude? Do we have to explain this to you as well? You're so arrogant. I even try being nice because I believe everyone deserves a second chance and can be changed for the better by being nice to them but wow.

I'm a sociopath, there is no "B!tchy" attitude. This is how I normally speak. I don't have emotions and my information on emotions isn't sharp. Don't mistake.

I just tried to help you figure something out. I only asked you if you need me to explain it to you if you can't figure it out.

EDIT: Did I really just waste my time typing all of that for you?

The fact that Luffy is beating Doflamingo in this arc, makes no sense. He should not be able to progress this fast, in case you haven't know we still have a strong 8-10 years to go.

The thing that should be obvious is that it's not real life. This is an animation and story made with no real life logic to it. That should be obvious.

Another thing is the Time Skip. 2 years of training which other pirates do not do during their time as a pirate. That's where his amazing progress came from.
It almost seems like you haven't read all the manga chapters. Have you?
 
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