[Question] Can, Luffy Beat Doflamingo?

[Hexuze]

It's a bit weird how so many people think Luffy will lose, when in fact it makes sense since it will help progress the story and lead Luffy to fight with stronger enemies.

Look if Luffy defeats Doflamingo the joker, the one who's involved with every major shady business in the One Piece world who do you thinks going to want Luffy's head? Yonkou's.

Not to mention the idea of people thinking Luffy will need another time skip to defeat Doflamingo is absurd how weak do you think Luffy is? Also how strong do you think Doflamingo is? You make it sound like he's on a level with the Admirals and Yonkou's.

A reasonable prediction would be Luffy might be defeated once...I'd push it to maybe twice but he'd defeat Doflamingo in the exact same arc and the strawhats have bigger problems than just one Warlord.

Yeah I think Luffy will be defeated at least once, it should develop his character and make us realize that he isn't this undefeatable protagonist that most of us portray him up to be. I think would be a good way to develop his character overall. I was trying to say that they might fight after in another timeskip. I just said that cause Doflamingo wants to be Pirate King as well. Even if he does get beaten in this arc. there will still be another timeskip b/c I cant see luffy being pirate at the age of 19.

 

[Vampy]

Yeah I think Luffy will be defeated at least once, it should develop his character and make us realize that he isn't this undefeatable protagonist that most of us portray him up to be. I think would be a good way to develop his character overall. I was trying to say that they might fight in another timeskip.

You mean like how he was already defeated by crocodile two times? Almost defeated by, Lucci as well?
It's already been proven that he is capable of being defeated. So yeah, it has already developed his character.

That development is that he doesn't give up. He has a strong will. He will continue fighting even if he dies. He will always stand back up if he falls.

Basically what you're talking about has already happened.

EDIT: Your mind has been moved twice. You have said before that, Luffy cannot defeat, Doflamingo. After that you said that, Luffy needs to train more or he can't defeat him. Now you're saying that he will be defeated once. Are you saying he will beat him in the second round?
I've made it quite clear that it's an extremely unlikely outcome. You must be ignoring what I told you above due to your emotional anger and ignorance. I tried to help you with your information but it seems that shame keeps you from responding to it.

You are obviously too incompetent to figure out whether, Luffy will win or lose and you need to develop your common sense. You should remove yourself from this discussion. You are incapable of contributing to this thread.

 

[Hexuze]

You mean like how he was already defeated by crocodile two times? Almost defeated by, Lucci as well?
It's already been proven that he is capable of being defeated. So yeah, it has already developed his character.

That development is that he doesn't give up. He has a strong will. He will continue fighting even if he dies. He will always stand back up if he falls.

Basically what you're talking about has already happened.

I wasn't talking to you.

 

[Vampy]

I wasn't talking to you.

This is my post. You can leave and not come back. Go make your own thread, though I doubt it will have much intelligence due to the details I've gathered on your common sense. So far my information tells me you are incompetent. Leave the thread please, you can't contribute to it.

 

[Hexuze]

This is my post. You can leave and not come back. Go make your own thread, though I doubt it will have much intelligence due to the details I've gathered on your common sense. So far my information tells me you are incompetent. Leave the thread please, you can't contribute to it.

Nah, I wanna be arrogant <3

 

[TheHokage]

Yeah I think Luffy will be defeated at least once, it should develop his character and make us realize that he isn't this undefeatable protagonist that most of us portray him up to be. I think would be a good way to develop his character overall. I was trying to say that they might fight after in another timeskip. I just said that cause Doflamingo wants to be Pirate King as well. Even if he does get beaten in this arc. there will still be another timeskip b/c I cant see luffy being pirate at the age of 19.

Luffy has already been shown he is capable of being defeated. CC defeated him (Granted that was because of Luffy's carelessness) but the fact still remains Luffy was defeated in the punk hazard arc, why is it necessary that he be beaten in each arc, we all know that Luffy isn't the strongest in the series at the moment, we all know if Luffy where to fight an admiral or a Yonkou he would be easily defeated, their are other characters we know that would defeat him Aokiji, Rayleigh, Garp, Mihawk.

Having Luffy lose all the time would suck, as it would show no character development at all, he's already been beaten down by Kuma before the time skip allowing the character development to come to develop his character more Oda would need to show that Luffy has overcome what happened two years ago and can protect his crew.


Having Luffy defeat Doflamingo would show how much more of a threat he is to the world government now.

 

[Vampy]

Nah, I wanna be arrogant <3

Your arrogance is not needed. I'm not interested in it. And no more hearts, I'm not interested in low intelligent perverts.

Luffy has already been shown he is capable of being defeated. CC defeated him (Granted that was because of Luffy's carelessness) but the fact still remains Luffy was defeated in the punk hazard arc, why is it necessary that he be beaten in each arc, we all know that Luffy isn't the strongest in the series at the moment, we all know if Luffy where to fight an admiral or a Yonkou he would be easily defeated.

Having Luffy defeat Doflamingo would show how much more of a threat he is the world government now.

Exactly. I've said this in this thread somewhere as well but with different words. It seems you are capable of contributing to this threads discussion but that other guy is having a hard time due to his level of common sense and emotions.

 

[Hexuze]

Luffy has already been shown he is capable of being defeated. CC defeated him (Granted that was because of Luffy's carelessness) but the fact still remains Luffy was defeated in the punk hazard arc, why is it necessary that he be beaten in each arc, we all know that Luffy isn't the strongest in the series at the moment, we all know if Luffy where to fight an admiral or a Yonkou he would be easily defeated.

Having Luffy defeat Doflamingo would show how much more of a threat he is the world government now.

True, I agree.

 

[Vampy]

True, I agree.

Though you may agree or you're trying to fake a change of heart it's still a fact that even with what this information that he just told you, you still think, Luffy will be defeated and not beat, Doflamingo in this arc.

 

[Hexuze]

Though you may agree or you're trying to fake a change of heart it's still a fact that even with what this information that he just told you, you still think, Luffy will be defeated and not beat, Doflamingo in this arc.

I'm not faking anything, you can believe whatever you like since you're so arrogant. Just be in denial like you always were and keep thinking you're more superior and more intellectual than everyone else. Let's see how far you get in life with that.

 

[Vampy]

I'm not faking anything, you can believe whatever you like since you're so arrogant. Just be in denial like you always were and keep thinking you're more superior and more intellectual than everyone else. Let's see how far you get in life with that.

Well, that's not what I was saying but if you put it that way, I can say I'm more superior than you when it comes down to it due to everything I've read from you.
And yes, I've gotten in a pretty comfortable state in life. Could you leave this post and not come back please? you're not contributing anything with your level of common sense.

 

[VongolaX]

Just a question: Again, I know we've argued before =D But is covering a giant fist harder than covering a regular fist? It's still Luffy's hand. He still has to cover the same amount, it has just expanded.



Hey Princess. Although you're waaaaaay off about Jozu being weak, I agree with most of the rest. I believe this is the arc where the SHs will make a name for themselves in the New World. They will show that they are a crew that is prime and ready to take on any opponent(except for a Yonko crew atm ofc). Luffy won't beat Doflamingo with ease or anything. We know that Luffy hasn't mastered Haki, he's still vulnerable to cuts. Doflamingo seems like the perfect opponent when it comes to that. That doesn't mean Luffy can't be cut by other people, but it's definitely a maaajor improvement if he can sustain a cut from Doflamingo. This is where the SHs will showcase themselves, hopefully, where everyone gets an appropriate bounty.




I usually like your thinking, but I just don't see how you think Luffy needs more time to train to defeat Doflamingo.

I'm not saying that Luffy is at Doflamingo's level right now, but when has Luffy ever matched up against someone that is his equal? Luffy has always fought an uphill battle, and I believe the same goes with Doflamingo

If you look at it closely, it makes sense. Luffy has trained for two whole years. Yes, Doflamingo has been a pirate for a long time, but he might have reached his peak, or else he would still try to conquer or something. Luffy will defeat him, a huge milestone of sorts, then he will defeat a person that is 1st Mate material(SLIGHTLY higher than Doflamingo, think of Marco), which will put him at Admiral level. Then Luffy will have the battle of his life, where he will muster all of his strength, speed and will to defeat the first Yonko, aka Kaido.

Luffy obviously isn't just any pirate. Given that he's the main protagonist, we know what he's gonna do. But pushing that aside, he has always showed tremendous growth during fights, and I believe he's very capable of taking on Doflamingo. Like any other opponent, Doflamingo will probably underestimate him though, until Luffy shows his true strength.

That's just how I see it. I know we have different viewpoints, but I just thought I'd share mine and maybe you would see my reasoning

It maybe luffy's hand, but the size and mass that he is covering the giants arm is still bigger than just covering his body. The size difference matter, you can't just expand your hands with haki. You cover what ever object in haki. I'm assuming that's why it is called armors.

If you don't wanna take my word for it, look here. Luffy expanded his armor before covering it in haki

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Here we see it's haki

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But I'm just going off of what i see happening, you can believe whatever you want.

 

[Ineverquit]

No, atleast not right now... Luffy will need to get stronger/get a new move/powerup before he could even stand a chance in winning.

 

[Hexuze]

It's kinda sad how wrong you are...Vampy

 

[ArabianLuffy]

This is like if ONE PIECE was at Whiskey Peak, and then, someone asks if Luffy can beat Crocodile.

Why asking the obvious?

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

This is like if ONE PIECE was at Whiskey Peak, and then, someone asks if Luffy can beat Crocodile.

Why asking the obvious?

He has a point. But Doflamingo hasn't got weaknesses to exploit.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I don't see Luffy beating Doffy. Is it possible? Yeah sure, he may be able to pull something like what happened with Crocodile and Enel and be able to exploit a weakness to beat his opponent. However, we don't know of any such weakness or if one even exists. As it stands right now, Doffy will beat Luffy. Things could happen to change that, but we don't know.

 

[VongolaX]

Nah I don't think so. Luffy is like Smoker level, he's above him but not by much, and we all saw hoe Dofla beat Smo-yan, so yeah to me Luffy doesn't have uch of a chane unless this time he decides to fight with someone beside him like Law which is unlikely.

Now to your argument on he beat all the bosses before, well Croco-boy did beat his ass twice until Luffy found out his weakness, against Lucci, well I'll say that win was more of a nakama power than anything, because Usopp was there telling him to get the f*ck up. Against Moria, well Moria was just weak and when he became that big it was over for him, he lost agaisnt magellan, he lost in the war of the best, so yeah, he became very strong, but I still think he below Dofla for now, and has little chance of winning.

What the f*ck, how is luffy on smokers level when he is stronger than law?

Did you forget that luffy best a living legend?

 

[Hexuze]

What the f*ck, how is luffy on smokers level when he is stronger than law?

Did you forget that luffy best a living legend?

Dude he posted it months ago...

 

[Shinichi Izumi]

I feel like Luffy not being able to defeat Doflamingo with V.high difficulty right now would not fit with the timeline...