Obito is faster than Naruto

[TheSages456]

obito isnt faster than naruto in foot speed. he can travel extreme distances far faster than naruto due to his spacetime ninjutsu though.

oh btw, all current uchihas have no problem with narutos "speed". speed means nothing to them. period. obito quite clearly saw naruto when he deflected the bijudama as he stated himself.

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[BasedRikudo]

Actual speed while fighting > Speed used to get from one place to another

 

[Midday]

obito isnt faster than naruto in foot speed. he can travel extreme distances far faster than naruto due to his spacetime ninjutsu though.

oh btw, all current uchihas have no problem with narutos "speed". speed means nothing to them. period. obito quite clearly saw naruto when he deflected the bijudama as he stated himself.

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Obito's one inner thought saying "He reflected all of them, in that case.." proves all Uchiha have no problem keeping up with his speed. We know his decision was to go for a more powerful bijuu dama which he felt Naruto wouldn't be able to deflect.

 

[Bronze]

That is one speed feat, now go look at all of minato's other speed feats. The all involve FTG so yes, without FTG minato's speed feats are cut in half.

Obito uses kamui as a replacement for his speed, so yes it is his speed.

when obito travels from a place to another, is no speed feat, its basically teleportation. therefore you cant say its his speed. also when he lets people slip through is also teleportaion since he teleports parts of his body, you cant consider them as his speed feats. you can say his speed reaction time is a feat, when raikage tried to punch him, he was fast enough to teleport parts of his body

 

[AlphaScythian]

obito isnt faster than naruto in foot speed. he can travel extreme distances far faster than naruto due to his spacetime ninjutsu though.
oh btw, all current uchihas have no problem with narutos "speed". speed means nothing to them. period. obito quite clearly saw naruto when he deflected the bijudama as he stated himself.

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So you are one of those fanboys that claim naruto deflected them w/o contact?

 

[TheSages456]

Obito's one inner thought saying "He reflected all of them, in that case.." proves all Uchiha have no problem keeping up with his speed. We know his decision was to go for a more powerful bijuu dama which he felt Naruto wouldn't be able to deflect.

what does anything you said have to do with the fact that obito, clearly kept track of narutos speed and saw him deflect the bijudama?
this discredits your theory of any current uchiha getting lolblitzed. obito who only has the MS kept track of his speed. madara and sasuke who have even greater visual insight than obito due to their EMS do the same.

 

[TheSages456]

So you are one of those fanboys that claim naruto deflected them w/o contact?

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[shelke]

I'm aware the tbb's didn't get pushed away with just speed, i'm talking about the speed he used when he deflected the tbb's. You've picked up on my poor wording but failed to refute the core point in the post which was your claim that Madara can keep up with Naruto's top speed which has not been shown.

Good to know that you don't follow this poor logic I have seen so many fans throw around. TBBs are slow in preparation. Even with Body Flicker, Naruto in KCM, Ae, Minato, or Itachi - if they had KCM defenses - would have easily deflected them.

What have I failed, exactly? You just assume that Naruto was moving so fast, ignoring TBBs sluggishness when this same KCM couldn't land a hit on Itachi, got sucked in by Nagato, and even tripped over a root. Going by these examples, I don't think he was as fast as you believe him to be. Second is the urgency and threat situation. You simply assume Naruto wouldn't have used his top speed, when Madara is a colossal threat on the battle field. Everything hangs in the balance along with the Gedo Mezo and Obito's - another threat - presence. The overwhelming evidence points against it.

 

[Midday]

what does anything you said have to do with the fact that obito, clearly kept track of narutos speed and saw him deflect the bijudama?
this discredits your theory of any current uchiha getting lolblitzed. obito who only has the MS kept track of the speed. madara and sasuke who have even greater visual insight than obito due to their EMS do the same.

It doesn't take much to tell that Naruto deflected them when Kakashi saw the same thing in the same page.

 

[TheSages456]

It doesn't take much to tell that Naruto deflected them when Kakashi saw the same thing in the same page.

thats not what i am talking about but whatever.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

I disagree. Naruto's reaction time might be slower than that of obito's but speed wise naruto's faster.
A good example of this would be when ay punched naruto in kcm mode and stopped both his and bee attempts to get past him.Even though naruto was faster than him speedwise his bad reactions got him hit multiple times.

Only when Ay told naruto(kakashi told naruto) when he(obito) was about to attack, naruto was able to dodge.

 

[Bronze]

obito isnt faster than naruto in foot speed. he can travel extreme distances far faster than naruto due to his spacetime ninjutsu though.

oh btw, all current uchihas have no problem with narutos "speed". speed means nothing to them. period. obito quite clearly saw naruto when he deflected the bijudama as he stated himself.

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not all uchiha can track naruto's speed. obito is a special uchiha, he has the best speed reaction out of any character, you cants say all of can do the same as obito.

the scan you brought didnt prove your theory right. you can see after obito seen the TBB exploded, he must have guessed that naruto has deflected them.

your theory was wrong therefore

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[TheSages456]

not all uchiha can track naruto's speed. obito is a special uchiha, he has the best speed reaction out of any character, you cants say all of can do the same as obito.

the scan you brought didnt prove your theory right. you can see after obito seen the TBB exploded, he must have guessed that naruto has deflected them.

your theory was wrong therefore

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[AlphaScythian]

I disagree. Naruto's reaction time might be slower than that of obito's but speed wise naruto's faster.
A good example of this would be when ay punched naruto in kcm mode and stopped both his and bee attempts to get past him.Even though naruto was faster than him speedwise his bad reactions got him hit multiple times.
Only when Ay told naruto(kakashi told naruto) when he(obito) was about to attack, naruto was able to dodge.

Thats cuz naruto was warned in time. But by the distance they've both covered we can calculate whose speed was greater.

 

[Midday]

Good to know that you don't follow this poor logic I have seen so many fans throw around. TBBs are slow in preparation. Even with Body Flicker, Naruto in KCM, Ae, Minato, or Itachi - if they had KCM defenses - would have easily deflected them.

What have I failed, exactly? You just assume that Naruto was moving so fast, ignoring TBBs sluggishness when this same KCM couldn't land a hit on Itachi, got sucked in by Nagato, and even tripped over a root. Going by these examples, I don't think he was as fast as you believe him to be. Second is the urgency and threat situation. You simply assume Naruto wouldn't have used his top speed, when Madara is a colossal threat on the battle field. Everything hangs in the balance along with the Gedo Mezo and Obito's - another threat - presence. The overwhelming evidence points against it.

In all those examples there's you've listed Naruto was in regular speed, not his maximum that he used to dodge the Raikage's fist. That's what i'm trying to get across.

I'm only assuming you're referring to Madara dealing with Naruto's maximum speed which is wrong, he blocked Naruto clone falling in the air with a mini tbb screaming at him. Which itself is not all that impressive, given that you've already given a few examples of Naruto's regular speed being kept up with. The only Uchiha who has shown feats to keep up with Naruto's top speed is Obito not Sasuke or Madara.

You said Naruto isn't as fast as I believe him to be, I believe he's always between stationary and the same speed he used when deflecting the tbb's.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Thats cuz naruto was warned in time. But by the distance they've both covered we can calculate whose speed was greater.

Naruto began moving after obito was already moving.

Edit:Naturally his distance should be smaller.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Naruto began moving after obito was already moving.

We cant really know that. Manga hints however that naruto reacted in time.
Obito barely materialized his head and naruto had exclamation marks above, which hint that he realized obito was there.
Kakashi has given him a warning just panel b4 too.

 

[Bronze]

smh.............

i see you havent answered anything, what cant think of anything to say after i disapproved your theory.

try a better one next time SAGE456

 

[shelke]

In all those examples there's you've listed Naruto was in regular speed, not his maximum that he used to dodge the Raikage's fist. That's what i'm trying to get across.

I'm only assuming you're referring to Madara dealing with Naruto's maximum speed which is wrong, he blocked Naruto clone falling in the air with a mini tbb screaming at him. Which itself is not all that impressive, given that you've already given a few examples of Naruto's regular speed being kept up with. The only Uchiha who has shown feats to keep up with Naruto's top speed is Obito not Sasuke or Madara.

You said Naruto isn't as fast as I believe him to be, I believe he's always between stationary and the same speed he used when deflecting the tbb's.

Doesn't matter what he blocked from a clone, because Shadow clones work on equal chakra distribution anyway. The fact remains that he charged at Madara and he deflected his attack or a clone's attack. It doesn't prove at all that he wasn't used his max speed, unless you have proof for this? Now before you use reverse psychology on me, remember my battlefield, urgency, threat, and all the world 'hanging in the balance' points. There was no reason for Naruto - err clone - not to use his max speed.

P.s: Might continue this tomorrow, if I get a breather from exam prep.

 

[Draphsin]

when obito travels from a place to another, is no speed feat, its basically teleportation. therefore you cant say its his speed.

Minato used FTG to teleport from A to his kunai, is that not speed?

also when he lets people slip through is also teleportaion since he teleports parts of his body, you cant consider them as his speed feats. you can say his speed reaction time is a feat, when raikage tried to punch him, he was fast enough to teleport parts of his body

He uses his speed to activate his jutsu, just like minato. Kamui is the transportation of body parts to another dimension, FTG is the transportation of oneself to another location. kamui is in fact more precise than regular dodging or FTG because he's only moving parts of his body.

His Kamui/intangibility works exactly like FTG, saying that obito's kamui isnt a speed feat is the same thing as saying minato's FTG isnt one.