SasukeUchiha910
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No. Naruto is just being humble
nope its a manga fact sasuke ms > sm naruto
Cant Deny Manga.. MS sasuke>SM naruto
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pateuvasiliu
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Sennin of Logic
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If a title says "Sasuke overpower Naruto" then it's a manga fact, otherwise...
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1. IT means big ball rasengan. He calls it rasengan. But, to explain the fact that it's massive, he says big ball. Isn't this obvious to see?
2. Good, raikiri cuts yata. Fine. What now? Both these techniques are described as having limitless potential -- "Cut's anything", "Reflects Anything". Therefore, since they both have no limits, it's possible raikiri can break through, or some sort of paradox occurs. I'm no physicist.
3. Cop out. Effortlessly blocked exploding tags and a sword. Therefore, this entire part is derailed as it's not featless. Stop using cheap cop outs. Show it being even remotely scratched, else the 'words' are as solid as any other evidence. Because your 'evidence' has been given more screen time and versatility, you're trying to use this as a cheap tactic. Furthermore, if you're trying to enforce Raikiri cuts anything, there are not enough scans to support this, and therefore you go off hype. Hence, Yata's hype has to be solidified to use that arguement. PS; Black zetsu (madara's will) who's seen countless shinobi's. Countless wars. Countless special items such as the gunbai and sage weapons, has much more credibility than iruka who's never left konoha.
TL;DR; Yata has reflected attacks, therefore it's hype is very possible as fact and this is just another cheap cop-out by you.
4. when has yata failed to deflect an attack? Can't say preta can absorb limitless, but yata can't block anything. Preta's never been pushed to the limits of it's hype. A V2 cloak isn't 'Limitless chakra'.
5. How does that make any sense? Do you live in NV? Do you have some sort of hidden book on the past 100 years of history of NV? Character statements are what tell the story. Kishi's logic is never contradictory to the point that it completely breaks jutsu's and their definitions. 'Madara said "Yata breaks all creation."' You even bring up this point. Madara has been through countless wars. He's been there through the creation of konoha and beyond. He's been there through the times of kin and gin. 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th world kages. Madara's seen and heard of everything the world has to offer. He knows of secret, legendary items. He knows of jutsu that revive the dead. He knows of jutsu that break space and time. The fact that yata's mirror comes from his mouth is more than enough proof. Yata needs no feat when it comes from such a credible source. The man's fodderizing an ENTIRE ninja alliance, and has a monster that took some god(So6P) to destroy. He's read the uchiha tablet - Something no one else has/can do because they don't possess EMS or rinnegan. Yata's Hype IS stone cold solidity because of yata. Using any other ninja's (iruka, kakashi, etc) debunked nonsense as proof is ZERO evidence to the contrary. FInd me a scan where MADARA HIMSELF made a contradiction.
The man who can fodderize Every single person, not including Hashirama, who exists within NV is the most credible source as to the hype of a jutsu. If he can't break it, who can? Who??
Itachi's fanboys have a logical reason to be radical. He has a weapon and shield that can reflect and defeat anything. attacks that can hardly be avoided. He's versatile in nin, tai and gen. Infact, itachi fanboys aren't bad at all. Even when they say he beats hashirama/juubi/so6P It makes perfect sense why they'd speak so absurdly. The man's hype is legendary. It's not their job to tell us how these people can beat itachi/exploit his weaknesses. It's our job. More importantly, it's our job to let obvious troll threads die. Trolls will always exist. Don't feed them.
Sennin of Logic
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I didn't read all of your comment, but about the last part. Itachi fanboys are horrible. Especially the ones that just say "Itachi solos" and leave it at that. Their reasoning is atrocious, as if a character has to look into his eyes.:sy:
SasukeNamikaze
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Viz translation says "I know that you can't beat Sasuke just by being strong"
He never said he was weaker. Naruto also claimed he was equal to Sasuke when he only had SM.
He never said he was weaker. Naruto also claimed he was equal to Sasuke when he only had SM.
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Like i explicitly said. Don't feed them. They're obvious trolls. That doesn't make them a horrible fanboy. I've seen people call some itachi fans bad because they use logic that's actually in the manga.
"Amaterasu GG"
"Tsukuyomi GG"
The thing about these posts is that, the other person can't even defence how those attacks DO NOT end the fight. We've seen them easily end fights before. What's the point of going around a long winded sharingan debate when you can simply open MS and end the debate? Infact, that's IC for itachi. We've always seen him just open his MS and 1 shot people in the manga so he could simply escape or cripple someone.
"Kamui GG" Is far worse IMO.
pateuvasiliu
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I am against AmaterasuGG due to the fact that the fastest target it hit was Danzo.
Except Kamui has speed feats.
1. What part of not the same do you get? Similar doesn't mean it is the same. Are you claiming that a base Rasengan has the destructive power as a Chou Odoma Rasengan?
2. Yes it is a paradox
3. Can you learn how to read? I'm not denying Yata's physical feats (hence, why I said I'd believe that Yata can tank a PS slash), I'm saying that you have no proof for it's ability to reflect any and all Nature based chakara attacks (which I stated in this line). Cheap tatics? More screen time? Don't get upset at me because Kishi displayed such a hyperbole and failed to back it up. I like how you just contradicted yourself here saying that Raikiri (admitting that there is manga proof to support its hype) should go off hype but solidifying Yata's hype when it is featless in the reflection of nature based attacks. Quite biased if you asked me. Like I said, when you show me a scan backing yata's hype then I will agree with you until then, it is all assumption
4. When did I say it couldn't? I'm challenging your statement by demanding proof of your claims, you made the statement, now it is up to you to provide the proof and you are failing to do so. Your just making assumption out based off half of the feat of the DB. Like I said, it's contradictory, the manga has always been like that (E.G Ama burning hotter than the sun)
5. What manga have you been reading? |
First of all yata doesn't break all creation, Secondly, this series lives on contradiction and if you haven't observed this, then I suggest you read it back from chapter 1. Character statements DOES NOT EQUAL PROOF an example is Orochi had the Sword of Kusanagi which is also said to pierce all but failed to pierce 4-tailed Naruto. A man who researched Jutsu and did nothing but research was wrong about the weapon he possessed. I still see that you cannot provide me with manga proof and stay with your biased opinion.
Want a contradtiction? Gladly....
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Why does "Madara's Will" observe that Sussano "carries a lot of risk" When he himself specializes in the manipulation of Sussano?
Itachi fanboys say Itachi can solo the sage. The extreme fanboys have no credibility. Yet you all hold something in common you cannot back up Yata's (full) hype :|
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1. Dude, I've been referring to raikiri and chidori being similar this entire time. Same, Similar, wow big difference? ... You just bring it out like they use completely different methods and executions when the only difference is attack power. What does that change about the jutsu other than how far it can pierce? Exactly.
3. this coming from the guy who's misread my posts. Irony, it's here folks. "It can turn back ANY attack". If you can't understand what any means, then that's your business. Raikiri is probably a magic trick, and not an attack in that case. Furthermore, I was stating that you were the one saying raikiri can cut anything (completely based off hype since no manga fact to prove 'anything'.), yet trying to dispute yata's hype claims of blocking anything. Please don't try to insult me with 'learn to read' since you don't even read and understand my posts :|. Show me a scan backing raikiri's hype, Then i'll believe you. Until then, raikiri can't cut yata, therefore yata blocks the only attack you try to slyly claim breaks it.
4. Have you ever felt amaterasu? Ever been to the sun? No. Furthermore, amaterasu's hype wasn't disproved, now was it. Enton blocked gaara's sand. Enton made ay lose an arm. Amaterasu killed an undying dog.
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It deflected all attacks aimed at it. Ergo, it proved it's hype. It's impossible to prove 'any'. Even if god himself shot it with a holy sniper rifle, and it didn't break, that would still not prove 'any'. Any means any. You can't prove any, you can only disprove it. Now disprove it or shut up. Stop trying to act like a smart ass, because you only come off as ignorant. Once again, you're left not answering my questions. I want 1 scan -- I have 3 solidifying my arguement -- of yata failing to block an attack. I just want to see a scratch or chip in yata.
5. "Sword of Kusanagi which is also said to pierce all but failed to pierce 4-tailed Naruto." Rofl you're making so much asspull to disprove yata. Nothing's been contradicted in the manga.
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we see the sword inside the kyuubi -- pierced.
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we see the kyuubi holding back the sword so it won't go right through him. It pierces anything, not cuts the hand of anything trying to hold it back. Try again pl0x. Please bring up your next 'contradiction' and 'Similiar not same jutsu' examples."Character statements DOES NOT EQUAL PROOF" Oh yes it does. Unless you can show me a picture of you standing in NV. Until you can prove that you know more than the characters in their own world, I should presume they know alot more than you.
"Itachi fanboys say Itachi can solo the sage. The extreme fanboys have no credibility. Yet you all hold something in common you cannot back up Yata's (full) hype" I just did.
Can you prove god doesn't exist. Therefore he does.
What you're saying is that, because i cannot see it, i should assume it doesn't exist. Fine, Since i cannot see your brain, i'll assume you don't have one.
Disprove me or stop responding. These desperate posts of yours are getting redundant.
Wow just wow, that's all I can say
1. Please open a dictionary before making claims similar and same don't equal the same definition. Raikiri is more concentrated than Chidori thus making it STRONGER (key word: stronger). You're not even using logic if you equate that a base rasengan is the same as a Chou Odoma Rasengan
3. And I still don't see any manga scans just words. Ok, let me borrow you logic
You say that Yata can be proven since it's reflected Sasuke's Sword, the Orochi strike and explosions but yet you deny Raikiri's hype when it has been proven already based on manga events? You're right about dat irony, and you're choc full of it
4. Are you serious right now bro? lol. I don't have to be in the NV or go near the sun to know that if Ama hype was true that whole summit would have been melted along with anyone in it. In case you didn't know, it is impossible for a human to go near the sun. Heck we sweat from it and we're thousand and thousands miles away from it
Do you know how to read? Do you not read what I am saying? How many times must I redundantly tell you, that I accept Yata blocking physical attacks, however I won't conform to it's ability to block (all) Nature based attacks due to it being featless (in this department). You are still not providing with factual manga evidence to back up your claim of Yata's (full) hype.
5. Keep reading, what did Oro say? He said it didn't pierce him, Naruto didn't grab it until after he hit the floor which means that he was trying to pierce him but couldn't so this post is invalid
6. This post is also invalid E.G Iruka claimed Hiruzen to be the God of Shinobi
It was said Hiruzen knew all of the Leaf's Jutsu
Pain was held as the second sage of the six paths (but lost to Naruto)
You did not backup Yata's hype and keep straying off topic, if you're gonna debate do it right. Show me a scan backing Yata deflecting Nature Based Attacks
Character statement of Raikiri (since you want to play these games)
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lol at all the co writers of naruto.
Ot- this is the manga scan i was looking for weeks ago to prove
now these kids look foolish.
Sennin of Logic
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Didn't help Kakashi.
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Or Pain, who had extreme skill in seeing chakra and ninjutsu.
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