Sasuke>/=KM Naruto Speed department or Reaction??

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Naruto its the faster of the 3 and he will leave it to someone slower than him, when he can get behind her on time.

You are really pricing kishsimoto to much, whom its a 3rd rated author. believes me there are many things that does not makes sense in the manga but we have to accept it, like it or not.

What kishimoto showed in the that chapter that particular panel.

Don't get surprise even Raikage A whom its inferior in speed to naruto
Landed a hit on madara something that naruto has yet to accomplish, so Raikage became the fastest 1 more time? and surpassed naruto out of the blue? even I BM.

Wow you're a massive fanboy. Arguing with you is clearly getting those with proper manga deduction skills no where. Logic seems to escape the minds of those engulfed with the character, Sasuke. If you want to have a proper debate, you must put your fanboyism aside, and concede defeat when someone provides multiple pages of manga evidence that Sasuke is slower than A. A is slower than Naruto. Thus, Naruto is faster than Sasuke. Simple ABC logic, and yes it does apply to speed.
 

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I stopped posting in NB because there are barely ever any post worth answering, yet this thread made me laugh by how incredibly stupid it is.

Thumbs up for the troll who thought of this thread! :)
Oh boy, you should have been here last chapter :|
 

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Using incorrect translations to support your views eh? Here's the correct one
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Incorrect ur ass. Viz translates it like i said.
and :stfu: at last. U cant win
 
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Im taking u down lol
A>sasuke>KCM naruto in speed, ,manga facts. Neither A or sasuke can move too fast to deny sharingans tracking and movement prediction. BOTH sasuke and A managed to dodge the sight itself or rather head movement. Sasuke did that further away thou, where u need to cover more distance to dodge the sight. For faster A, from 2m away, ITS NOT A FEAT. Sharingan was able to track raikages movements and made sasuke dodge his elbow. Its was V1 true, but it also was cumulative speed of KCM fast naruto (base sasuke) in addition. It renders all ur BS of A being faster then sharingan, and that sasuke cant dodge frontal attack. Hence the reason A didnt go frontal again.

Character commenting dont mean a shit unless its lord madara or some1 with credible knowledge. A never stated for naruto to be faster then him, but to dodge only. If i dodge the thrown at me rock i dont get to be faster then it.
Usually they say "so fast" or "hai ai" (i think) which doesnt let us to make any big conclusions. But do remind me who commented on obito's speed in saving sasuke from jinton???
Alpha, you are greatly mistaken. However, I'm going to let Sage handle his own work
 

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Im taking u down lol
A>sasuke>KCM naruto in speed, ,manga facts. Neither A or sasuke can move too fast to deny sharingans tracking and movement prediction. BOTH sasuke and A managed to dodge the sight itself or rather head movement. Sasuke did that further away thou, where u need to cover more distance to dodge the sight. For faster A, from 2m away, ITS NOT A FEAT. Sharingan was able to track raikages movements and made sasuke dodge his elbow. Its was V1 true, but it also was cumulative speed of KCM fast naruto (base sasuke) in addition. It renders all ur BS of A being faster then sharingan, and that sasuke cant dodge frontal attack. Hence the reason A didnt go frontal again.

Character commenting dont mean a shit unless its lord madara or some1 with credible knowledge. A never stated for naruto to be faster then him, but to dodge only. If i dodge the thrown at me rock i dont get to be faster then it.
Usually they say "so fast" or "hai ai" (i think) which doesnt let us to make any big conclusions. But do remind me who commented on obito's speed in saving sasuke from jinton???

Your argument lost all validity the second you said A>KCM Naruto's speed.
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There's no denying that Naruto outclassed him in speed. A's fist was inches from his face, but Naruto evaded it completely anyway.
 

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Im taking u down lol
A>sasuke>KCM naruto in speed, ,manga facts. Neither A or sasuke can move too fast to deny sharingans tracking and movement prediction. BOTH sasuke and A managed to dodge the sight itself or rather head movement. Sasuke did that further away thou, where u need to cover more distance to dodge the sight. For faster A, from 2m away, ITS NOT A FEAT. Sharingan was able to track raikages movements and made sasuke dodge his elbow. Its was V1 true, but it also was cumulative speed of KCM fast naruto (base sasuke) in addition. It renders all ur BS of A being faster then sharingan, and that sasuke cant dodge frontal attack. Hence the reason A didnt go frontal again.
I like how you countered yourself there. Good job. Sasuke could track v1 Ay's movements, not v2.
Character commenting dont mean a shit unless its lord madara or some1 with credible knowledge. A never stated for naruto to be faster then him, but to dodge only. If i dodge the thrown at me rock i dont get to be faster then it.
Flawed example there. If you dodge a rock from close range, with the rock only a few centimeters away from hitting you, then yes you're faster than the rock.
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As you can see here, Ay's puch was merely a few centimetres away from making contact.
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Naruto moves his whole body out of the way before the punch connects. Conclusion: Naruto is faster than Ay.
Usually they say "so fast" or "hai ai" (i think) which doesnt let us to make any big conclusions. But do remind me who commented on obito's speed in saving sasuke from jinton???
There wasn't any comment. You know why? Because it wasn't a speed feat. There was no comparison of 2 shinobi's speed being made there. Thanks for proving my point. There isnt a single instance where the manga compares the speed of two people without a comment on it.
 
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:'(Some people are countering with manga pages that happened like *who knows 3 years ago?*can someone reconfirm it.

people improve in that time expecialy sasuke.

The second lastest chapter its the one who its supporting my claim, not a page from 150 pages ago.

Sasuke with Sunshin got behind Sakura before Naruto.

when naruto talked to Sakura, Sasuke dint have any movement/speed lines while naruto had it!.

That its what the manga its showing latetly!

@Naruto x MAn
You don't need to make things up, since when amataresu and Eton has the same speed?
Sasuke used enton not amataresu!

Who its debating ama/eton vs rasenshurin speed.

This its Sasuke Sunshin and KM naruto lol?

Just so you know, time in real life does not constitute as equal time in the Narutoverse. 3 years in real life is not the same as few days in the manga.

No, Sasuke did not physically train at that time due to his EMS surgery.
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The argument that Naruto surpassed A in terms of full speed still stands. A and Minato were canonically portrayed by the author as the fastest shinobis alive and dead, faster than Sasuke Uchiha.
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The whole point of the "Two Suns" was depicted Naruto's will to prove he can surpass Minato in terms of speed and is not to be underestimated. A tested him using V2 Armor noted by the flaring hair, he passed. The speed situation is debatable in this scenario depending on view. But you simply cannot deny that KCM Naruto>Sasuke in full speed.

This was supposed to be a significant moment in the Shinobi World War Arc. A still wanted to keep Naruto and Bee from going out to the battlefield, but NAruto refused to go back. If Naruto wants to fight in the war, he has to first prove he has the power and ability to kick asses. And he proved his capabilities through full speed. Just like how A tested Killer Bee in physical strength through the Lariat Technique. From then on, Naruto ended the Zetsu bloodshed, saving the Alliance in a flash, no pun intended.
 

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Sigh, Naruto did solo raikage. The 8 tails didn't have a clue to what scared the raikage.
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In fact, he gave a false guess. Naruto took the information that he was given and figured out what happened like a detective and figured out raikage's weakness. He figured out what everyone else couldn't.

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Manga>You.

Also, Naruto was with Sasuke the whole time, Sakura just looked at his direction.

cool story kid.

Naruto asked bee how did he beat raikage.

/ your whole troll post

I agree it actually reminds me of this though
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Everyone seem to mentioning Raikage vs Naruto/Sasuke fight but you have to realized the way he fought (compare & contrast)

When Raikage vs Sasuke fought A was trying to stay out of the sharingan line of site hence the reason he attacked Sasuke from the back ( Also I believe he state something like your sharingan cant keep up with me)

Now A did this so the sharingan cant keep up with him, and see what he was able to do ( like Naruto )

But during the Naruto vs Raikage fast he clearly attacked Naruto directly in front of his face..( or his line of vison) hence the reason Naruto seen the attack . and was able to dodge it.

Another thing everyone seem to be talking about is Naruto speed decreasing is because he low on chakra but he was in KM..

Everytime Naruto has even drained/fatique he recieves chakra from Kurama , and everything is instantly restored.. like his speed feats


People just never want to give Sasuke his props.. :sy: BUT DOESNT MATTER WHAT PEOPLE SAY manga proves Sasuke > Naruto in KM until prove otherwise! ( see this is a fact not a opinion there a differenecs)

its because they have no respones to the last 2 manga chapters.

So they want to talk about MS sasuke

Patheic

Are u kishi by any chance? U cannot give BS explanations that werent even remotely hinted in paraller universe to meet ur own views on manga. U call me a fanboy ,but statement like this put u below any other wanker in this base. Yet u attempt to deny that ur both uchiha hater and anything vs uchiha fanboy.

:'(Some people are countering with manga pages that happened like *who knows 3 years ago?*can someone reconfirm it.

people improve in that time expecialy sasuke.

The second lastest chapter its the one who its supporting my claim, not a page from 150 pages ago.

Sasuke with Sunshin got behind Sakura before Naruto.

when naruto talked to Sakura, Sasuke dint have any movement/speed lines while naruto had it!.

That its what the manga its showing latetly!

@Naruto x MAn
You don't need to make things up, since when amataresu and Eton has the same speed?
Sasuke used enton not amataresu!

Who its debating ama/eton vs rasenshurin speed.

This its Sasuke Sunshin and KM naruto lol?

Yeah basically lol. I think some of these kids think there kishi.

Thats why i left the thread once they started trolling.

Idk why there compareing chp 300 sasuke and current naruto

Patheic
 

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Since we're throwing logic out the window.
Gaara and Oonoki=Naruto
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Karin, Suigetsu and Juugo= Sasuke
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cool story kid.

Naruto asked bee how did he beat raikage.

/ your whole troll post



its because they have no respones to the last 2 manga chapters.

So they want to talk about MS sasuke

Patheic





Yeah basically lol. I think some of these kids think there kishi.

Thats why i left the thread once they started trolling.

Idk why there compareing chp 300 sasuke and current naruto

Patheic

I love how you stalk random threads and think the crap you post is in anyway logical. Just shut up lol
You don't contribute to anything
 

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Uchihas can copy speed with their Sharingan.

That's absurd. Here's why.
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If you're referring to the finals, Sasuke had a month of preparation. It required exercise, not instantaneous copied speed.
 

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Body Flicker, yes. If I remember correctly, in his first Shippuden appearence, he was good enough with Shunshin to move from one place to another in the blink of an eye, so I would agree, his Body Flicker could be on the similar levels.

Raw speed? No, still one of the fastest Shinobi around though.
 

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Sasuke and Chakra mode naruto are closer than Naruto fanboys admit, but no he's not faster. His sharingan does however give him a good amount of time to react.

Speed:
Base Naruto<base Sasuke
Chakra mode Naruto>>Base Sasuke
Chakra mode Naruto> Sharingan Sasuke
Bm>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sharingan Sasuke
 

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cool story kid.

Naruto asked bee how did he beat raikage.

/ your whole troll post



its because they have no respones to the last 2 manga chapters.

So they want to talk about MS sasuke

Patheic





Yeah basically lol. I think some of these kids think there kishi.

Thats why i left the thread once they started trolling.

Idk why there compareing chp 300 sasuke and current naruto

Patheic

What part of "We both collapsed" do you not understand! It was a tie! What part of "I don't remember clearly" do you not understand!

Naruto pieced the mystery together and flat out beat the raikage. There's no denying that truthfully unless you live inside a bubble and believe only what you want to believe. Naruto figured out raikage's weakness, he blitzed him and exploited that weakness. Naruto beat him, period.

This is not a troll post. I put up a scan that supports what I said. You're the only troll around here. Your opinion is worthless due to you making up things to suite your own purposes. You claim to be logical and insult others for disagreeing with you, but you're the opposite of logical. If you were logical, you'd think calmly and examine evidence to see who's right or wrong. You have an opinion and won't let go despite the evidence thrown in your face.
 

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Sasuke and Chakra mode naruto are closer than Naruto fanboys admit, but no he's not faster. His sharingan does however give him a good amount of time to react.

Speed:
Base Naruto<base Sasuke
Chakra mode Naruto>>Base Sasuke
Chakra mode Naruto> Sharingan Sasuke
Bm>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sharingan Sasuke

Completely correct except maybe for base comparison. However, the point isn't reaction and defending, it's about movement speed.
 

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I like how you countered yourself there. Good job. Sasuke could track v1 Ay's movements, not v2.
Countered my self? U wish. As i said it was speed of sasuke + v1 A. Thus it decreases reaction time and movement prediction at that cumulative speed worked flawlessly. If u gonna state that Av2 speed is greater then that ur delusional.
Flawed example there. If you dodge a rock from close range, with the rock only a few centimeters away from hitting you, then yes you're faster than the rock.
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As you can see here, Ay's puch was merely a few centimetres away from making contact.
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Naruto moves his whole body out of the way before the punch connects. Conclusion: Naruto is faster than Ay.
In no freaking way. Naruto was running sidewards with his base kcm speed and at the last time pulled shunshin.
A basically failed to intercept naruto due to linear shunshin movement and variable speed naruto used.

Punch few centimenters away? Given how his hand is much bigger then head i can only say that it is already amiss since that can only happen if its closer to the POV.

Here is how A in V1 was trashing naruto's speed all along.
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So we can conclude 2 things here. 1) V2 A isnt much faster then V1. 2) Either A let naruto escape either naruto used same strategy i described.
Cuz no naruto cant get ass pull speed increase just like that.
There wasn't any comment. You know why? Because it wasn't a speed feat. There was no comparison of 2 shinobi's speed being made there. Thanks for proving my point. There isnt a single instance where the manga compares the speed of two people without a comment on it.
hmm.
For every speed feat in the manga, there's always a character commenting on the speed to make it obvious its a speed feat. I dare you to find one speed feat that didnt have a character commenting on it.
Ur the one contradicting urself. Scratch that ur full of BS that is, and dont stand by ur words.
 
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@Alpha You just ended the thread, my man. Not to mention Naruto's V2 dodge came with a prior warning from Raikage. *****
 

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Countered my self? U wish. As i said it was speed of sasuke + v1 A. Thus it decreases reaction time and movement prediction at that cumulative speed worked flawlessly. If u gonna state that Av2 speed is greater then that ur delusional.
In no freaking way. Naruto was running sidewards with his base kcm speed and at the last time pulled shunshin.
A basically failed to intercept naruto due to linear shunshin movement and variable speed naruto used.

Punch few centimenters away? Given how his hand is much bigger then head i can only say that it is already amiss since that can only happen if its closer to the POV.

Here is how A in V1 was trashing naruto's speed all along.
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So we can conclude 2 things here. 1) V2 A isnt much faster then V1. 2) Either A let naruto escape either naruto used same strategy i described.
Cuz no naruto cant get ass pull speed increase just like that.
hmm.

Ur the one contradicting urself. Scratch that ur full of BS that is, and dont stand by ur words.


All I'm reading is denial of facts. Denial denial denial. I give up trying to convince you fanboys.:devil: As far as I'm concerned, I disproved the idea that Sasuke>KCM speed-wise. I used almost nothing but manga facts and common sense of the given information. It's a fact that Naruto KCM>Sasuke speed-wise.

Show me a scan where KCM Naruto and Sasuke undeniably start dashing towards a place at the same time and Sasuke gets there first. Then we'll talk.
 

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Body Flicker, yes. If I remember correctly, in his first Shippuden appearence, he was good enough with Shunshin to move from one place to another in the blink of an eye, so I would agree, his Body Flicker could be on the similar levels.

Raw speed? No, still one of the fastest Shinobi around though.

At least someone who its getting the thread or what I was saying!
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