Sasuke>/=KM Naruto Speed department or Reaction??

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How do you know he slowed down because of that, is there any indication of that? I am missing something...? making things up.?


How do you know he is not using his fullSpeed? mind explaining?

-His friend its in danger of getting her as woop, do you think he will slow down?

Sasuke arrived at Sakura's sides with Sunshin as the image shows and Naruto came to second, did naruto used sunshin whoknows but until then the manga its supporting my claim.

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I will replay you in a few sec! I liked what you posted.

@inanimated!
You are wrong!
Sasuke and no one in their right mind would had ever thought that raikage will do an suicide move like he did, that thing today was really stupid because sasuke still its in one piece while he has none arm.

Sasuke didnt dodge with because who would even try to do what raikage did. xD that's madness!

Even so.. It's logical to dodge... He obviously knew Raikage would do it, that's why he put up the Enton.
 

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Engaging is the start of combat. Sasuke resorted to sharingan after bee brought 8 swords.
In reagard to enton i just speculated. It could be his newly made KKG enton release, thus it wouldnt be big a deal.


What exactly? At least bold it -.-


Which is why I didnt say engage
Uchiha KKG is their dojutsu so regardless it requires his sharigan to be activated



@Nygle: I love how you are arguing with manga facts bit expect your assumption based on a desperate attempt to match Sasuke to Naruto a commendable effort as futile as it is :|
 

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Even so.. It's logical to dodge... He obviously knew Raikage would do it, that's why he put up the Enton.
Its not logical to dodge what u cant see -.-
Which is why I didnt say engage
Uchiha KKG is their dojutsu so regardless it requires his sharigan to be activated

Ur right. I just wanted him to have another. just like mei :p and onooki. We would see how new KKG is born, it would be cool.
 

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How do you know he slowed down because of that, is there any indication of that? I am missing something...? making things up.?


How do you know he is not using his fullSpeed? mind explaining?

-His friend its in danger of getting her as woop, do you think he will slow down?

Sasuke arrived at Sakura's sides with Sunshin as the image shows and Naruto came to second, did naruto used sunshin whoknows but until then the manga its supporting my claim.
I'd like to introduce you to these revolutionary new jutsus called long range jutsus. They're like close range jutsus, except they're fired, negating any need for the attacker to be physically present to defeat an enemy. Examples of such techniques would be rasenshuriken, and enton ,you know those 2 techs Sasuke and Naruto used to take out the juubites that were putting Sakura's life in danger. Sasuke and Naruto rushing there was simply Kishi giving us a team 7 moment.
 

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How do you know he slowed down because of that, is there any indication of that? I am missing something...? making things up.?


How do you know he is not using his fullSpeed? mind explaining?

-His friend its in danger of getting her as woop, do you think he will slow down?

Sasuke arrived at Sakura's sides with Sunshin as the image shows and Naruto came to second, did naruto used sunshin whoknows but until then the manga its supporting my claim.

@naruto x man
I will replay you in a few sec! I liked what you posted.

@inanimated!
You are wrong!
Sasuke and no one in their right mind would had ever thought that raikage will do an suicide move like he did, that thing today was really stupid because sasuke still its in one piece while he has none arm.

Sasuke dint dodge with because who would even try to do what raikage did. xD that's madness!

Sasuke didnt dodge because he couldn't :|
 

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I'd like to introduce you to these revolutionary new jutsus called long range jutsus. They're like close range jutsus, except they're fired, negating any need for the attacker to be physically present to defeat an enemy. Examples of such techniques would be rasenshuriken, and enton ,you know those 2 techs Sasuke and Naruto used to take out the juubites that were putting Sakura's life in danger. Sasuke and Naruto rushing there was simply Kishi giving us a team 7 moment.
Are u kishi by any chance? U cannot give BS explanations that werent even remotely hinted in paraller universe to meet ur own views on manga. U call me a fanboy ,but statement like this put u below any other wanker in this base. Yet u attempt to deny that ur both uchiha hater and anything vs uchiha fanboy.
 

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There are several reasons why Sasuke's body flicker being faster than Naruto makes no sense.

1. His body flicker would have to be faster than A's enhanced body flicker. THIS MAKES NO SENSE!
2. Naruto already has speed comparable to Sasuke's in base mode as shown in the summit arc.
3. By using the logic used for this argument, Ransenshuriken is as fast as amaterasu since ransenshuriken and inferno style blades hit the 10 tails clones at the same time.
4. If Sasuke really surpassed KCM speed, you'd think that he'd mention it in his thoughts. He does it when A keeps up with him, he does it when he sees the 3rd raikage's comparable. You'd think that he'd think "Sasuke's faster than me now!" Instead he though, "His eyes are different and has these black flames." What do you think would make Naruto worry more, black flames that he can dodge, or speed greater than his?!
 

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What's this Sasuke vs Raikage nonsense?
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Karin clearly states the shield of amaterasu was there since Sasuke can't keep track of Ay. Unless you're going Sasuke can also move so fast that even a sharingan can't track him, its undeniable proof that Raikage is faster than Sasuke.
Are u kishi by any chance? U cannot give BS explanations that werent even remotely hinted in paraller universe to meet ur own views on manga. U call me a fanboy ,but statement like this put u below any other wanker in this base. Yet u attempt to deny that ur both uchiha hater and anything vs uchiha fanboy.
Am not Ksihi. Am just an omniscient being with great knowledge. Infact so great is my wisdom, I was even able to predict Sasuke using enton without his eyes showing simply means he used sharingan off panel.
It's common sense if Kishi wants to tell us character A is faster than character B or is portraying a speed feat, he always makes another character comment on it. For every speed feat in the manga, there's always a character commenting on the speed to make it obvious its a speed feat. I dare you to find one speed feat that didnt have a character commenting on it.
 
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:'(Some people are countering with manga pages that happened like *who knows 3 years ago?*can someone reconfirm it.

people improve in that time expecialy sasuke.

The second lastest chapter its the one who its supporting my claim, not a page from 150 pages ago.

Sasuke with Sunshin got behind Sakura before Naruto.

when naruto talked to Sakura, Sasuke dint have any movement/speed lines while naruto had it!.

That its what the manga its showing latetly!

@Naruto x MAn
You don't need to make things up, since when amataresu and Eton has the same speed?
Sasuke used enton not amataresu!

Who its debating ama/eton vs rasenshurin speed.

This its Sasuke Sunshin and KM naruto lol?
 
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What's this Sasuke vs Raikage nonsense?
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Karin clearly states the shield of amaterasu was there since Sasuke can't keep track of Ay. Unless you're going Sasuke can also move so fast that even a sharingan can't track him, its undeniable proof that Raikage is faster than Sasuke.

Good one. Also, the weakness of Chidori is that you move so fast, you get tunnel vision. If Sasuke couldn't keep track of his own normal movements, then he couldn't have possibly used chidori on A like he did in their fight.
 

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There are several reasons why Sasuke's body flicker being faster than Naruto makes no sense.
1. His body flicker would have to be faster than A's enhanced body flicker. THIS MAKES NO SENSE!
2. Naruto already has speed comparable to Sasuke's in base mode as shown in the summit arc.
3. By using the logic used for this argument, Ransenshuriken is as fast as amaterasu since ransenshuriken and inferno style blades hit the 10 tails clones at the same time.
4. If Sasuke really surpassed KCM speed, you'd think that he'd mention it in his thoughts. He does it when A keeps up with him, he does it when he sees the 3rd raikage's comparable. You'd think that he'd think "Sasuke's faster than me now!" Instead he though, "His eyes are different and has these black flames." What do you think would make Naruto worry more, black flames that he can dodge, or speed greater than his?!
1. Correct. Nobody claims sauke to be faster then A, but he can take him with sharingan.
2. Utterly wrong. Naruto's base is weak, hence he had problems with madara, obito and itachi.
3. We cant conclude any of that from picture that shows final result.
4. No. He knows nothing about it. But he did mention that naruto was dragging them down in other words slower.
 

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4. No. He knows nothing about it. But he did mention that naruto was dragging them down in other words slower.

Using incorrect translations to support your views eh? Here's the correct one
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:'(Some people are countering with manga pages that happened like *who knows 3 years ago?*can someone reconfirm it.

people improve in that time expecialy sasuke.

The second lastest chapter its the one who its supporting my claim, not a page from 150 pages ago.

Sasuke with Sunshin got behind Sakura before Naruto.

when naruto talked to Sakura, Sasuke dint have any movement/speed lines while naruto had it!.

That its what the manga its showing latetly!

The reason why we use dated examples is because Sasuke went through surgery. This means that he didn't have training time to increase his speed since the 5 kage summit arc. Therefore, logic that applied then applies now.


Plus, how do you know that Naruto didn't let Sasuke get to Sakura first so that he could cover them from a different angle? For all we know, Sasuke dashed to Sakura to protect her while Naruto checks for enemies to destroy and then hears Sakura say "Sasuke!" and then dashed to her.

The recent panel isn't legitimate proof that Sasuke is faster than Naruto since there's no way to prove that they both went to Sakura, at the same time, at full speed.
 

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:'(Some people are countering with manga pages that happened like *who knows 3 years ago?*can someone reconfirm it.

people improve in that time expecialy sasuke.

The second lastest chapter its the one who its supporting my claim, not a page from 150 pages ago.

Sasuke with Sunshin got behind Sakura before Naruto.

when naruto talked to Sakura, Sasuke dint have any movement/speed lines while naruto had it!.

That its what the manga its showing latetly!

@Naruto x MAn
You don't need to make things up, since when amataresu and Eton has the same speed?
Sasuke used enton not amataresu!

Who its debating ama/eton vs rasenshurin speed.

This its Sasuke Sunshin and KM naruto lol?

Are you serious? So you are saying EMS makes you faster? Have a manga page for this? U_U

I guess everyone forgot that Sasuke was immobile for a good portion of the manga because of the implantation of Itachi's eyes and now everyone is saying that EMS grants the user speed feats, even though this has not been shown in the manga. Obviously he couldn't have trained from then till now because the (big) thing he did next was find Itachi. Which means his speed his just as it was when he fought the Raikage

F**k logic :|
 

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1. Correct. Nobody claims sauke to be faster then A, but he can take him with sharingan.
2. Utterly wrong. Naruto's base is weak, hence he had problems with madara, obito and itachi.
3. We cant conclude any of that from picture that shows final result.
4. No. He knows nothing about it. But he did mention that naruto was dragging them down in other words slower.

How would Naruto not know if someone's faster than him?! Also, dragging someone down can also refer to someone being dead weight, aka weaker. However, Sasuke's always been arrogant and has always downplayed Naruto's skills far below what the really are.

Classic example:

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In the dub, he says "your transformation is even worse than Naruto." Yet, Naruto had already fooled Zabuza, a jonin. On top of that, Naruto even fooled Kiba and Akamaru, who knew each other very well. That would require high amount of detail and skill. Clearly Sasuke is not a good judge of Naruto's abilities.
 

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The reason why we use dated examples is because Sasuke went through surgery. This means that he didn't have training time to increase his speed since the 5 kage summit arc. Therefore, logic that applied then applies now.


Plus, how do you know that Naruto didn't let Sasuke get to Sakura first so that he could cover them from a different angle? For all we know, Sasuke dashed to Sakura to protect her while Naruto checks for enemies to destroy and then hears Sakura say "Sasuke!" and then dashed to her.

The recent panel isn't legitimate proof that Sasuke is faster than Naruto since there's no way to prove that they both went to Sakura, at the same time, at full speed.

Naruto its the faster of the 3 and he will leave it to someone slower than him, when he can get behind her on time.

You are really pricing kishsimoto to much, whom its a 3rd rated author. believes me there are many things that does not makes sense in the manga but we have to accept it, like it or not.

What kishimoto showed in the that chapter that particular panel.

Don't get surprise even Raikage A whom its inferior in speed to naruto
Landed a hit on madara something that naruto has yet to accomplish, so Raikage became the fastest 1 more time? and surpassed naruto out of the blue? even I BM.
 

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Naruto its the faster of the 3 and he will leave it to someone slower than him, when he can get behind her on time.

You are really pricing kishsimoto to much, whom its a 3rd rated author. believes me there are many things that does not makes sense in the manga but we have to accept it, like it or not.

What kishimoto showed in the that chapter that particular panel.

Don't get surprise even Raikage A whom its inferior in speed to naruto
Landed a hit on madara something that naruto has yet to accomplish, so Raikage became the fastest 1 more time? and surpassed naruto out of the blue? even I BM.

So I guess you have nothing credible to reply to
You're just gonna keep clutching at straws
 

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1. Correct. Nobody claims sauke to be faster then A, but he can take him with sharingan.
2. Utterly wrong. Naruto's base is weak, hence he had problems with madara, obito and itachi.
3. We cant conclude any of that from picture that shows final result.
4. No. He knows nothing about it. But he did mention that naruto was dragging them down in other words slower.


Also, I agree with your opinion on number 3, that's the point I'm making. It's similar in circumstance, but the idea that they could be equally fast is absurd. Base Naruto is not weak.:sy:
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This is comparable to Sasuke's speed feat when they met up with him in part 2. Also, he protected himself from a fist fight with Deva path which is impressive.
 

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Im taking u down lol
What's this Sasuke vs Raikage nonsense?
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Karin clearly states the shield of amaterasu was there since Sasuke can't keep track of Ay. Unless you're going Sasuke can also move so fast that even a sharingan can't track him, its undeniable proof that Raikage is faster than Sasuke.
A>sasuke>KCM naruto in speed, ,manga facts. Neither A or sasuke can move too fast to deny sharingans tracking and movement prediction. BOTH sasuke and A managed to dodge the sight itself or rather head movement. Sasuke did that further away thou, where u need to cover more distance to dodge the sight. For faster A, from 2m away, ITS NOT A FEAT. Sharingan was able to track raikages movements and made sasuke dodge his elbow. Its was V1 true, but it also was cumulative speed of KCM fast naruto (base sasuke) in addition. It renders all ur BS of A being faster then sharingan, and that sasuke cant dodge frontal attack. Hence the reason A didnt go frontal again.

Am not Ksihi. Am just an omniscient being with great knowledge. Infact so great is my wisdom, I was even able to predict Sasuke using enton without his eyes showing simply means he used sharingan off panel.
It's common sense if Kishi wants to tell us character A is faster than character B or is portraying a speed feat, he always makes another character comment on it. For every speed feat in the manga, there's always a character commenting on the speed to make it obvious its a speed feat. I dare you to find one speed feat that didnt have a character commenting on it.
Character commenting dont mean a shit unless its lord madara or some1 with credible knowledge. A never stated for naruto to be faster then him, but to dodge only. If i dodge the thrown at me rock i dont get to be faster then it.
Usually they say "so fast" or "hai ai" (i think) which doesnt let us to make any big conclusions. But do remind me who commented on obito's speed in saving sasuke from jinton???
 
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I stopped posting in NB because there are barely ever any post worth answering, yet this thread made me laugh by how incredibly stupid it is.

Thumbs up for the troll who thought of this thread! :)
 
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