Sasuke>/=KM Naruto Speed department or Reaction??

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Actually you can say that because:
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Oh and this:
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Can't even forget about:
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Then A dodging him at point blank range:
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1 pic. Has nothing to do with shunshin or even speed.
2 pic. Attacked from behind? Not a speed feat.
3 pic. Follow up attack? Not a speed feat.
4 pic. Where did A dodge anything here?
 

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1 pic. Has nothing to do with shunshin or even speed.
2 pic. Attacked from behind? Not a speed feat.
3 pic. Follow up attack? Not a speed feat.
4 pic. Where did A dodge anything here?

1. Nygle said Sasuke could keep up with the Raikage this pic proves otherwise
2. Raikage didn't sneak Sasuke, he got blitzed
3. This was a result of Sasuke not being able to keep up
 

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I am glad you like it, there are some that seems to post just because.

Can you pay close attention to both panel and you will notice that when sakura saw sasuke, he has lines of speed the ones up and down that only sunshin and teleport seems to have, also none naruto on sight if you look at it.

Second panel 3 of them but naruto has speed lines right to lefh/lef to right while sasuke has not anymore.

So it clearly shows that sasuke with his sunshin arrived first then naruto second.

Actually you cant not say that sasuke couldn't keep up with Raikage because that its what he actually did but V2 was after and got him from behind, remember that sasuke everytime he fight with a opponent with a superior fighting style, he adapts and gets better.

Others have beaten me to the point of why A blitzed Sasuke, so I'll focus on something that shakes your entire premise that Sasuke's body flicker makes him faster than Naruto (no offense, just making my finds known).


A's full speed is lightning armor and body flicker combined.
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This is when he used body flicker. No upwards lines.
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Naruto dodged A's full speed.
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The translation doesn't say that, but the anime's subs does.

Plus, Naruto's normal speed in KCM is at least equal to body flicker. Here's when Naruto first used speed in KCM without training to make his control (and most likely speed) better.
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Since Naruto improved his control and speed, this proves that he moves faster than any body flicker outside of enhancement.
 

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1 pic. Has nothing to do with shunshin or even speed.
2 pic. Attacked from behind? Not a speed feat.
3 pic. Follow up attack? Not a speed feat.
4 pic. Where did A dodge anything here?


Your right about those pics except for 2. A was standing in front of Sasuke and then used his speed to get behind him. If I stood 50 feet in front of you and ran to your back before you could even turn, that would count as outclassing you with speed.
 

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i call to remember that Naruto has been fighting for days and sasuke hasn't but fanboying makes one forget such things.............
 

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Others have beaten me to the point of why A blitzed Sasuke, so I'll focus on something that shakes your entire premise that Sasuke's body flicker makes him faster than Naruto (no offense, just making my finds known).


A's full speed is lightning armor and body flicker combined.
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This is when he used body flicker. No upwards lines.
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Naruto dodged A's full speed.
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The translation doesn't say that, but the anime's subs does.

Plus, Naruto's normal speed in KCM is at least equal to body flicker. Here's when Naruto first used speed in KCM without training to make his control (and most likely speed) better.
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Since Naruto improved his control and speed, this proves that he moves faster than any body flicker outside of enhancement.

This pretty much^^^
 

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@Naruto X man. Do u not see "A BODY FLICKER TECHNIQUE" written on the last scan u posted in regard to naruto?
KCM naruto's raw speed obviously is inferior to base sasuke.
 

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@Naruto X man. Do u not see "A BODY FLICKER TECHNIQUE" written on the last scan u posted in regard to naruto?
KCM naruto's raw speed obviously is inferior to base sasuke.

If Naruto had to train to make himself precise in KCM, what makes you think that he could use something as advanced as body flicker?
 

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If Naruto had to train to make himself precise in KCM, what makes you think that he could use something as advanced as body flicker?
Its goddamn irrelevant what naruto has trained himself for. Did we see him train for that rikudou seal he used on kurama?
Big fat NO, yet he has it. Manga explicitly states naruto has body flicker /thread
 

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Its goddamn irrelevant what naruto has trained himself for. Did we see him train for that rikudou seal he used on kurama?
Big fat NO, yet he has it. Manga explicitly states naruto has body flicker /thread

Not arguing against your body flicker point but, didn't Naruto simply re-activate his father's seal(turn it), and it trapped Kurama again. Just a question :)
 

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Not arguing against your body flicker point but, didn't Naruto simply re-activate his father's seal(turn it), and it trapped Kurama again. Just a question :)

Was kurama trapped by wooden gates b4? Or did kurama shout minato instead of rikudou?
Imho so6p spirit subconsciously controls naruto
 

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So,basically, everyone is allowed in here.Thanks for telling us...

Sasuke is nowhere near as fast as Naruto, just ask the fourth raikage.
 

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Was kurama trapped by wooden gates b4? Or did kurama shout minato instead of rikudou?
Imho so6p spirit subconsciously controls naruto

Well I'm pretty sure we've seen the gates come down on Kurama before, which is why I've asked :p.

1 pic. Has nothing to do with shunshin or even speed.
2 pic. Attacked from behind? Not a speed feat.
3 pic. Follow up attack? Not a speed feat.
4 pic. Where did A dodge anything here?

1. Sorry, check the chapter ahead of that. He liger bombed Sasuke after they blitzed each other. Sasuke was completely out classed from the beginning.
2. Again, check the page before. A shunshins next to him and chops him, without so much as a head turn from Sasuke. Impressive shunshin capabilities from the Raikage.
3. Raikage completely turned his body around in the time it took Sasuke to fall to the ground. He was heading straight at him at that time too. While you may not notice at first, that's a completely impressive speed feat, as he changed his direction in mid air.
4. Raikage turned around completely, faced him, then blitzed him before Sasuke could get more than a foot closer. Another extremely amazing speed feat based on physics.
 

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The image is there, that's why the rebuttals are so damn funny. KCM Naruto didn't make it back faster than Sasuke and that's that. Too funny.
 

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Well I'm pretty sure we've seen the gates come down on Kurama before, which is why I've asked :p.
Never. Naruto had a key to minato's seal. He opened it then closed. Wooden gates are completely new
1. Sorry, check the chapter ahead of that. He liger bombed Sasuke after they blitzed each other. Sasuke was completely out classed from the beginning.
Yes they both were stationary and A grabbed sasuke. Grabbing sasuke is this the feat u refer to?
2. Again, check the page before. A shunshins next to him and chops him, without so much as a head turn from Sasuke. Impressive shunshin capabilities from the Raikage.
Thats incorrect. A avoided amaterasu. A has most importantly avoided sasuke's eye sight. He did it from 2m distance, which isnt hard at all for shunshin to accomplish that. Sasuke has noted it and proceeded to use enton. A appeared behind and sasuke was mockingly looking at him. Then A proceeded to use suicidal chop. Quite a time has passed since A got off sight actually. Read the chapter again.
3. Raikage completely turned his body around in the time it took Sasuke to fall to the ground. He was heading straight at him at that time too. While you may not notice at first, that's a completely impressive speed feat, as he changed his direction in mid air.
Lol what? He made a half spin needed to perform that kick! Thats impressive speed feat? Sasuke had time to make spikes and gaara blocked with sand. There was no speed feat in that.
4. Raikage turned around completely, faced him, then blitzed him before Sasuke could get more than a foot closer. Another extremely amazing speed feat based on physics.
What are u talking about? Sasuke used shunshin to get behind A. A used it to get away, then they clashed where sasuke dodged A's elbow and hit him with chidori. I see nothing impressive here.
 
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I agree it actually reminds me of this though
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Everyone seem to mentioning Raikage vs Naruto/Sasuke fight but you have to realized the way he fought (compare & contrast)

When Raikage vs Sasuke fought A was trying to stay out of the sharingan line of site hence the reason he attacked Sasuke from the back ( Also I believe he state something like your sharingan cant keep up with me)

Now A did this so the sharingan cant keep up with him, and see what he was able to do ( like Naruto )

But during the Naruto vs Raikage fast he clearly attacked Naruto directly in front of his face..( or his line of vison) hence the reason Naruto seen the attack . and was able to dodge it.

Another thing everyone seem to be talking about is Naruto speed decreasing is because he low on chakra but he was in KM..

Everytime Naruto has even drained/fatique he recieves chakra from Kurama , and everything is instantly restored.. like his speed feats


People just never want to give Sasuke his props.. :sy: BUT DOESNT MATTER WHAT PEOPLE SAY manga proves Sasuke > Naruto in KM until prove otherwise! ( see this is a fact not a opinion there a differenecs)
 

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So this is the level Sasuke fans have sunk to. Interesting.
 
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