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hahahahahahahha The "Hypocritical" One.
Already read it...

What to say? He's certainly not the right one to talk about values and unity.

That being said, I understand that he went through that; given how tough his Madrid spell was. Especially the media pressure...

Even Arbeloa slammed and criticized lack of professionalism and dedication from Madrid players; how they prioritized their warfare against Mou instead of Madrid's institute. Same for Florentino Perez who did his best to make Mou's exit as respectful as he could, with several statements in the past weeks.

Spanish cultures notably:

"Heroes are always to be idolized" and "Winning shouldn't be at the cost of philosophy" are 2 things that are completely Anti-Mou. The fact that Spanish media never bulge on those principles and overlook many aspects in the course of this, is really saddening imo.

Anyways, I really don't want to get on how Madrid squad exploded or the Casillas issues or even how media harnessed foreign coaches/players and overprotect their Spanish heroes. In any case, I'm glad Mou is leaving Madrid...a union that showcased lots more of theatrics and less of football according to me.
 

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Arbeloa time is coming to an end at RM, especially after he found out the arrival of Carvajal. Not to mention isn't this the same club and Arbeloa who made up stories about Messi meeting him the parking lot? Yes, his words should matter after that lie. If anything he's praying Mou takes him to Chelsea.

Whatever happened between him and Casillas will come out. If Perez didn't offer Mou a respectful departures, Mou would take a nice chunk of cash with him. I find it funny all players were willing to lie down their lives for Mou in the first two season, this even caused a rifted in the Spanish national team dressing room, so I'm not surprised if Casillas stood up to Mou considering the class he was showing to Barcelona after victory and loss each game, and Mou would criticize him for shaking his opponent hand, etc. That whole Ronaldo "I'm sad" issue had to do with Mou as well supposedly.
 

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Arbeloa time is coming to an end at RM, especially after he found out the arrival of Carvajal. Not to mention isn't this the same club and Arbeloa who made up stories about Messi meeting him the parking lot? Yes, his words should matter after that lie. If anything he's praying Mou takes him to Chelsea.

Whatever happened between him and Casillas will come out. If Perez didn't offer Mou a respectful departures, Mou would take a nice chunk of cash with him. I find it funny all players were willing to lie down their lives for Mou in the first two season, this even caused a rifted in the Spanish national team dressing room, so I'm not surprised if Casillas stood up to Mou considering the class he was showing to Barcelona after victory and loss each game, and Mou would criticize him for shaking his opponent hand, etc. That whole Ronaldo "I'm sad" issue had to do with Mou as well supposedly.
Funny how you are ready to argue that Arbeloa is making this up due to being self-centered and keeping a grudge while on the other hand, I could accuse Casillas of the same thing. Stop taking about class and everything on Casillas. The guy's rebellion is the main cause of all this Madrid's disaster...

Mou is a sore loser, which we knew since his Porto days. Imagining how someone rebelled against him, he obviously went for the eye for an eye method. And when more criticism from media/players came onto his way, he stood by that mantra. Thereby, more chaos ensured.

This is how I see it figuratively. A hero started a fire in his own team in an act of rebellion. Someone, instead of extinguishing the fire, asked the rest of the group to walk on the fire through the path of fire. Gradually, this was viewed as tyranny. In general view, the one who asked to walk on the fire was viewed as the dictator while the original perpetrator was protected due to his status. Both are wrong but had the fire not been brewed, the rest of the events would have never occur.

Oh, well, as I said, this is very less of football talks. It's a complete Shakespearean tragic scenario and bloody good one, I must say! I could make one hell of a novel out of it, if I wanted to.
 

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Either way we may never find out the turth. Either way its my respect for Casillas, RM failures ste only Barcelona gain, so starting over again next season je out benefit.
 

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Saint Iker is the Mole, that's all there is to it........
i really hope that Jose stayed, but well **** it
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CR7 has put his Madrid house on sale!

I'm kinda getting some minor " " vibes with this news...xD Who knows? :p
 

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I kinda liked this interview; but this part was more interesting in my ears:

"Cristiano has had three fantastic seasons with me. I don't know if they were the best of his career because he had some fantastic moments with Manchester United."

Normally, a boastful like Mou would have straight-away said that Ronaldo had the best years of his careers under his guidance. That was something I'm sure he would have exclaimed. The fact that he didn't, is a bit perplexing and unlike him... Maybe because Ronaldo already confessed to Mou some months back, that he doesn't consider those 3 years as his favorite ones.
 

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I kinda liked this interview; but this part was more interesting in my ears:

"Cristiano has had three fantastic seasons with me. I don't know if they were the best of his career because he had some fantastic moments with Manchester United."

Normally, a boastful like Mou would have straight-away said that Ronaldo had the best years of his careers under his guidance. That was something I'm sure he would have exclaimed. The fact that he didn't, is a bit perplexing and unlike him... Maybe because Ronaldo already confessed to Mou some months back, that he doesn't consider those 3 years as his favorite ones.
Actually the real quote is

"He played three fantastic seasons with me, I do not know if the best of his career," the Special One said. "I think we discovered a fantastic tactical set-up so that he could express all his potential and express it in goals."

He is giving himself the credit lol but he did say at the end CR always fights and gives his all, even if he's injured. I saw the full interview on TV, he was also saying things about Pepe lol didn't really pay attention.
 

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What would be your 23-man squad for:

- Brazil
- England
- France

at WC2014 and what would be your personal lineups for each 3 teams? I'm asking this, because these are the 3 "big-names" teams that clearly are lacking something from what we have seen in recent matches...So, what would be your changes you'd make? And no, I am not asking to make a FIFA13/FIFA Manager type of selection squad. I want your choice to be based on talents and skills but also on tactics, psychology, chemistry, age and all those stuffs... That is, a deeply thoughtful decision for the betterment of each team...
 

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This will be fun. I'll go through the list and see what players have been doing well this season, as well as what potential some players have and how it can rub off on opposing teams.
 
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