Hashirama vs EMS Sasuke, Itachi and the Sannin

Hashirama vs The Sannin, Sasuke & Itachi

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I don't think Minato, the featless Tobirama and Hiruzen can solo him.

minato has RDS,oro can make him use it,thus killing hashi and taking awy minato,which is a victory for oro,and dont forget that he sorta has edo hashirama tooxd
 

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minato has RDS,oro can make him use it,thus killing hashi and taking awy minato,which is a victory for oro,and dont forget that he sorta has edo hashirama tooxd

But he can't control him. So Hashirama will help Hashirama to defeat Oro, lol.
 

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It'd be a joke to think Hashirama could beat all of those people.

No way.

The second team takes it low difficulty.

I think Itachi and Sasuke alone could take on Hashi. Or perhaps even Itachi/Jiraiya, Sasuke/Oro.

There's a lot overrating when it comes to both Hashi and Madara. They aren't invincible.
 

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It'd be a joke to think Hashirama could beat all of those people.

No way.

The second team takes it low difficulty.

I think Itachi and Sasuke alone could take on Hashi. Or perhaps even Itachi/Jiraiya, Sasuke/Oro.

There's a lot overrating when it comes to both Hashi and Madara. They aren't invincible.

The wank in this post is astounding. Shinsuusenju turns them to paste. They can't stop it nor can they guard from its attacks. Its a joke to say any of the duos you mentioned have a chance at beating him.
 

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What is this bs about Tsunade or Hashirama being immune to Tsukuyomi? Lol @ the guy who said Tsukuyomi does physical damage when its a Genjutsu. If you aren't blood related to Itachi you can't break it. Manga fact.


Shinsuusenju turns team 2 to paste. Hashirama wins mid diff.

They can't break it, this is obvious. But they can easily heal from it.
 

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They can't break it, this is obvious. But they can easily heal from it.

They aren't healing anything when they are dead. Tsukuyomi is a one shot kill if Itachi wants it to be. How is Tsunade or Hashirama going to heal from it when the jutsu will render them unable to do anything if it doesn't kill them? That makes no sense whatsoever.
 

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They aren't healing anything when they are dead. Tsukuyomi is a one shot kill if Itachi wants it to be. How is Tsunade or Hashirama going to heal from it when the jutsu will render them unable to do anything if it doesn't kill them? That makes no sense whatsoever.

It can kill a random fodder, but it can't kill someone who has strong willpower. ( The she ***** is cut in half, but can talk )
 

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It can kill a random fodder, but it can't kill someone who has strong willpower. ( The she ***** is cut in half, but can talk )

Itachi has complete control over the length of the Genjutsu. If he makes it long enough it will kill them. Doesn't really matter as either way whoever gets hit is incapacitated.
 

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How is the Byakugo healing the user? By reproducing cells drastically. Will this kind of regeneration help Tsunade to heal herself from mental damage/stress? Certainly not.
 
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The wank in this post is astounding. Shinsuusenju turns them to paste. They can't stop it nor can they guard from its attacks. Its a joke to say any of the duos you mentioned have a chance at beating him.

I seem to recall that being obliterated away [ ][ ][ ]


Regardless, it isn't easy to fight Sasuke and Itachi

In Kabuto's case, he had several defenses for all of their techniques which was quite contrived if I must say.
Kabuto, as I recall, referred to himself being the closest thing to the Sage alive.

Hashirama doesn't have the benefit of snake sensing to close his eyes, nor does he have hydrification, or shedding, heightened reflexes, or even sound genjutsu. Hashirama willingly looks into people's eyes. There's evidence of this during his fight with Madara, and when Sasuke revealed his MS to the Hokage.

Fighting two MS users is extremely difficult, especially when they're as skilled as two cited Uchiha geniuses.

Hashirama would need to fight without looking at either Uchiha, who both are highly skilled in genjtusu (Itachi moreso)
He'd also be required to avert his eyes towards Itachi's finger/hands. If that's not enough, he'd also need to avoid making eye contact with crows etc.

Then, there are the forbidden Uchiha techniques - Izanagi, and Izanami. Izanami which doesn't even require eye contact with your opponent. Which beat the supposed miniature So6P

That's Itachi genjutsu alone. He also has Totsuka sealing, Yata Mirror which can defend against practically anything.

And combined, both Sasuke and Itachi have extremely heightened intelligence and capability for incredible foresight and planning. Sasuke in the case of his fight with Deidara. amongst many others. Itachi too

This doesn't include their Shunshin, which allowed Sasuke to evade the Raikage using lightning armour, or prompt Yamato to ask if he was using Hiraishin. Or Itachi with his faster than sight hand seal formation speed.

Not to get into their respective ninjutsu skills. Itachi's mastery of Suiton, Sasuke with Raiton, both of their fire releases which include Amaterasu which is a highly overpowered technique. One which can take down bijuu effortlessly, force Kage to cut off their own arms and risk death by blood loss (Raikage).

This doesn't include their hand to hand combat or weapon skills. Itachi with his kunai, who can deflect multiple shuriken and have them hit targets which were otherwsise unreachable. Sasuke with his Kenjutsu and lightning streaming. Who by the way fought 1000 ninja simultaneously whilst deliberately avoiding killing them.

They both have powerful long rage attacks too - Susano'o arrows drenched in flames, Yasaka Magatama

I haven't even mentioned Koto Amatsukami, or their ability to mirror attacks, or control summonings

Dude, don't underestimate what these guys can do when they fight at the same time.

Hashirama would likely have much difficulty even dodging Sasuke's Amaterasu, let alone Sasuke's Amaterasu with a rear attack from Itachi's lightning fast jutsu, combined with his crows aiming to get him into genjutsu whilst Sasuke swings his Amaterasu blade in a battlefield already sparked alight by it.

NO. Don't overrate him.

We haven't even started with the Sannin. Should I add them to this fight?
 

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I seem to recall that being obliterated away [ ][ ][ ]
I also seem to recall Madara doing that much damage to it. I also recall it grabbing Kyuubi and putting it to sleep so it being obliterated by the Bijuu Dama barrage is obviously false.

Regardless, it isn't easy to fight Sasuke and Itachi

In Kabuto's case, he had several defenses for all of their techniques which was quite contrived if I must say.
Kabuto, as I recall, referred to himself being the closest thing to the Sage alive.

Hashirama doesn't have the benefit of snake sensing to close his eyes, nor does he have hydrification, or shedding, heightened reflexes, or even sound genjutsu. Hashirama willingly looks into people's eyes. There's evidence of this during his fight with Madara, and when Sasuke revealed his MS to the Hokage.

Fighting two MS users is extremely difficult, especially when they're as skilled as two cited Uchiha geniuses.

Hashirama would need to fight without looking at either Uchiha, who both are highly skilled in genjtusu (Itachi moreso)
He'd also be required to avert his eyes towards Itachi's finger/hands. If that's not enough, he'd also need to avoid making eye contact with crows etc.

Sage Sensing is what let Kabuto fight with his eyes closed. Hashirama has Sage Mode. Its not like it matters as long range fighting=No eye contact which equals no Genjutsu. Good luck trying to make eye contact with a guy who has Mokuton Clones, can create a forest in an instant (Good luck even seeing him through a forest). Good luck making eye contact with a guy on top of a statue that towers over Mountains.

If you really believe that Kabuto was/is the closest thing to the Sage then its going to be hard for me to take you seriously.

Then, there are the forbidden Uchiha techniques - Izanagi, and Izanami. Izanami which doesn't even require eye contact with your opponent. Which beat the supposed miniature So6P

That's Itachi genjutsu alone. He also has Totsuka sealing, Yata Mirror which can defend against practically anything.

And combined, both Sasuke and Itachi have extremely heightened intelligence and capability for incredible foresight and planning. Sasuke in the case of his fight with Deidara. amongst many others. Itachi too
Izanagi is absolutely useless and its a stupid tactic in this fight. Izanagi w/o Senju DNA is pretty much imperfect and impractical, and they lose an eye so that means Susanoo goes with it.

Izanami is useless against someone like Hashirama, not to mention he is never going to be able to set it up when he has to hide in Susanoo for the whole fight.

Totsuka reaching Hashirama on top of a statue that dwarfs Mountains? Totsuka hitting Hashirama when he has Sage Sensing and already has impressive speed to boot? Good luck.

Yata Mirror blocking everything is pure hyperbole with no back up.


This doesn't include their Shunshin, which allowed Sasuke to evade the Raikage using lightning armour, or prompt Yamato to ask if he was using Hiraishin. Or Itachi with his faster than sight hand seal formation speed.
The bold never happened. Ever. Sasuke evade the Raikage while he was using his V1 Armor, something Madara (who is Hashirama's physical equal) easily reacted to. Its not like Shunshin of Sasuke and Itachi's speed bears any relevance against a guy with moves like these.




Not to get into their respective ninjutsu skills. Itachi's mastery of Suiton, Sasuke with Raiton, both of their fire releases which include Amaterasu which is a highly overpowered technique. One which can take down bijuu effortlessly, force Kage to cut off their own arms and risk death by blood loss (Raikage).
Nothing in this paragraph is relevant bar Amaterasu. Which can be sensed and blocked with a Mokuton dome, or he can move the flames off his body by creating a separate Mokuton clone spawned from his body and heal from the damage with his Byakugo level regen.


This doesn't include their hand to hand combat or weapon skills. Itachi with his kunai, who can deflect multiple shuriken and have them hit targets which were otherwsise unreachable. Sasuke with his Kenjutsu and lightning streaming. Who by the way fought 1000 ninja simultaneously whilst deliberately avoiding killing them.
Kunai and Shuriken have no place in this fight at all. Nor does Sasuke's Kenjutsu.

They both have powerful long rage attacks too - Susano'o arrows drenched in flames, Yasaka Magatama
All of which is easily blocked by Mokuton.

I haven't even mentioned Koto Amatsukami, or their ability to mirror attacks, or control summonings
Controlling summonings has no relevance here.

Koto isn't usable by Itachi. When he got it he said it needed to recharge and he already embedded a "Protect Konoha" command in it.

Dude, don't underestimate what these guys can do when they fight at the same time.

Hashirama would likely have much difficulty even dodging Sasuke's Amaterasu, let alone Sasuke's Amaterasu with a rear attack from Itachi's lightning fast jutsu, combined with his crows aiming to get him into genjutsu whilst Sasuke swings his Amaterasu blade in a battlefield already sparked alight by it.

NO. Don't overrate him.

We haven't even started with the Sannin. Should I add them to this fight?

He doesn't need to dodge Amaterasu, he can sense it and block it by using Mokuton to cover LoS or he can move the flames off his body onto another Mokuton clone by spawning it from his body.
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Itachi's lightning fast jutsu? If he isn't using MS techs it has no place in this fight as Hashirama can easily deal with any of Itachi's basic Ninjutsu.

Add the Sannin, they get pasted as well.

You know, this long ass post and most of it was telling me about their abilities. Abilities that I already know of, you're supposed to tell me how they win, not hype them up with your post. The only thing that came remotely close to a counter was the first three scans...sadly Madara is the one who did that and not the Uchiha bros.

Shinsuusenju pastes them with its Top Transformed Buddha attack.
 

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It'd be a joke to think Hashirama could beat all of those people.

No way.

The second team takes it low difficulty.

I think Itachi and Sasuke alone could take on Hashi. Or perhaps even Itachi/Jiraiya, Sasuke/Oro.

There's a lot overrating when it comes to both Hashi and Madara. They aren't invincible.

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Madara/Hashirama overrated? They live up to their hype. You're just seriously underrating them
Anyway Hashirama takes mid diff. Shinsuusenju destroy's team 2. Also assuming flower world is stronger than madara's version, that can also hugely slow them down.
 

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I also seem to recall Madara doing that much damage to it. I also recall it grabbing Kyuubi and putting it to sleep so it being obliterated by the Bijuu Dama barrage is obviously false.

Regardless, neither overpowered the other. It was a stalemate (both techniques ended), and that was EMS Madara alone. We're dealing with 5 Kage level Shinobi against 1. More if you include Edo Tensei, and of course there'd be summonings as well if you really want - Gamabunta, Manda and Katsuyu

Sage Sensing is what let Kabuto fight with his eyes closed. Hashirama has Sage Mode. Its not like it matters as long range fighting=No eye contact which equals no Genjutsu. Good luck trying to make eye contact with a guy who has Mokuton Clones, can create a forest in an instant (Good luck even seeing him through a forest). Good luck making eye contact with a guy on top of a statue that towers over Mountains.

Yeah, but, in order to win a fight, one must eventually approach their opponent. There's no way you can win from a distance.
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Regardless, even if they were fighting at a distance, Sasuke and Itachi wouldn't lose.

Heck, they don't even need to rely on genjutsu, as that was a small part of my argument.

Jiraiya also has Sage Mode.

And, also, I think you'd find that the Sharingan can see chakra as a colour, so Hashirama wouldn't be able to hide. His clone is debateable, but given that Madara could see through it, Sasuke and Itachi have a good shot to be able to as well.

I'd like to see Naruto track Sasuke or Itachi's movements with his eyes closed.

If you really believe that Kabuto was/is the closest thing to the Sage then its going to be hard for me to take you seriously.
This doesn't even contribute to an argument. It's completely irrelevant.

Fact: There were 3 main battles. Madara (dead) vs 5 Kage, Tobi vs Naruto and Bee, and Kabuto vs Sasuke and Itachi

Tobi and Kabuto are the only contenders for the accolade of closest to the Sage. Naruto nearly lost to Tobi, and Sasuke is weaker, the rest are dead.

So, yes, Kabuto's claim was rather valid, but again it isn't important.

Izanagi is absolutely useless and its a stupid tactic in this fight. Izanagi w/o Senju DNA is pretty much imperfect and impractical, and they lose an eye so that means Susanoo goes with it.

Izanami is useless against someone like Hashirama, not to mention he is never going to be able to set it up when he has to hide in Susanoo for the whole fight.

Izanagi isn't useless. In fact it's extremely powerful. Used in the right circumstances it can give them a win. And you can't speak of the quality of the technique without Senju DNA.

And you have no proof to say that Izanami wouldn't work on him. Why not? And he doesn't need to hide in his Susano'o nor does staying in his Susano'o negate Izanami's activation - he can strike from his Susano'o

Totsuka reaching Hashirama on top of a statue that dwarfs Mountains? Totsuka hitting Hashirama when he has Sage Sensing and already has impressive speed to boot? Good luck.

Yata Mirror blocking everything is pure hyperbole with no back up.

Hashirama is fighting against 5 opponents. Combined attacks can leave Hashi wide open as I mentioned earlier with just Sasuke and Itachi alone. He can be pushed off of any wood structure, there are Hawks in Sasuke's case, and Susano'os that can throw people into the air, not to mention Gamabunta etc.

I have yet to see Yata Mirror be unable to block an attack, do you have proof of that?
It quite clearly states in the databook what Yata Mirror can do. I have proof of that.



The bold never happened. Ever. Sasuke evade the Raikage while he was using his V1 Armor, something Madara (who is Hashirama's physical equal) easily reacted to. Its not like Shunshin of Sasuke and Itachi's speed bears any relevance against a guy with moves like these.



Yes, the bold did happen, you must have read another translation. Nevertheless the point I'm trying to establish is that Sasuke is quick. This is known. He's credited in the databook as having "godlike speed". So that's that.

Madara doesn't have anywhere near close the speed feats that either Itachi or Sasuke have. The Uchiha bros. are either equal to Hashirama in speed or likely faster which makes a big difference.

Nothing in this paragraph is relevant bar Amaterasu. Which can be sensed and blocked with a Mokuton dome, or he can move the flames off his body by creating a separate Mokuton clone spawned from his body and heal from the damage with his Byakugo level regen.

Wrong, it is very relevant. Ninjutsu is a valid part of any fight. Mokuton is also ninjutsu (well 3 ninjutsu techniques). And I've listed 3 elemental styles that they have mastered which can be used in multiple ways strategically.

I don't recall Byakugo being able to be used multiple times. Hashi has a chakra limit.



Kunai and Shuriken have no place in this fight at all. Nor does Sasuke's Kenjutsu.

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I can see two blades.

1. All of which is easily blocked by Mokuton.


2. Controlling summonings has no relevance here.

3. Koto isn't usable by Itachi. When he got it he said it needed to recharge and he already embedded a "Protect Konoha" command in it.

1. Again, COMBINED, TIMED ATTACKS. They'll use Yasaka Magatama or Susano'o when Hashi's defense is compromised. That will happen if he's to fight against 5 Shinobi.

2. Well, it's valid in case Hashirama has a summoning, which may be quite possible given his Sage Mode.

3. That's not valid. i.e. you can't say Itachi can't use his MS because Sasuke has his eyes. Or that Danzo can't use his Izanagi in a hypothetical fight because he already used them up against Sasuke etc.



He doesn't need to dodge Amaterasu, he can sense it and block it by using Mokuton to cover LoS or he can move the flames off his body onto another Mokuton clone by spawning it from his body.
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This is a fight involving multiple parties. I said earlier that what's dangerous are omnidirectional attacks. Ssauke attacking with Amaterasu whilst Itachi, Tsunade, Jiraiya, Oro all attack from multiple directions very quickly.

Besides, I don't see how he'll sense it. Also, Amaterasu is really quick, I doubt Hashirama would have the time to even create a clone before it attaches to him.


Itachi's lightning fast jutsu? If he isn't using MS techs it has no place in this fight as Hashirama can easily deal with any of Itachi's basic Ninjutsu.

That's not valid. You can't discount Madara's Katon just because you feel Hashirama can "easily deal with it". Madara can still use Katon strategically. Katon is still powerful.

What if Hashirama runs out of chakra, will Itachi's ninjutsu still be invalid?

1. Add the Sannin, they get pasted as well.

2. You know, this long ass post and most of it was telling me about their abilities. Abilities that I already know of, you're supposed to tell me how they win, not hype them up with your post. The only thing that came remotely close to a counter was the first three scans...sadly Madara is the one who did that and not the Uchiha bros.

3. Shinsuusenju pastes them with its Top Transformed Buddha attack.

1. Lol

2. Well, you were underrating them. I was illustrating the extent of their techniques, and I did expand on how I thought they could be used in unison.

3. Lol, no. 5 Kage level nin > 1. Orochimaru's walls, their Susano'o including Yata Mirror, Katsuyu, Manda and Gamabunta say hi.
 

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We can debate whether the shield of Yata would withstand Cojo Kebutsu given the hype from the databook. As for the rest, complete annihilation. Their chances are next to zero as Hashirama proved formidable skills in all known areas even in base, can increase them with Sage Mode and is able to continue fighting after he used the Shinsuusenju.
 
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Can someone tell me what hashi's super defence against RDS is?
 

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Regardless, neither overpowered the other. It was a stalemate (both techniques ended), and that was EMS Madara alone. We're dealing with 5 Kage level Shinobi against 1. More if you include Edo Tensei, and of course there'd be summonings as well if you really want - Gamabunta, Manda and Katsuyu

Using A>B>C Logic? Don't come here with that nonsense. Nothing they have can do as much damage as Madara with Kurama did.

Yeah, but, in order to win a fight, one must eventually approach their opponent. There's no way you can win from a distance.
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Not if Shinsuusenju pummels them all till they die. Then he doesn't need to go in directly. He only had to go in directly to finish Madara cause Madara basically made his statue useless when it came to combat and he was exhausted. These guys aren't pushing him that far.

Regardless, even if they were fighting at a distance, Sasuke and Itachi wouldn't lose.
Their counter for Shinsuusenju?

Jiraiya also has Sage Mode.
This changes nothing.

And, also, I think you'd find that the Sharingan can see chakra as a colour, so Hashirama wouldn't be able to hide. His clone is debateable, but given that Madara could see through it, Sasuke and Itachi have a good shot to be able to as well.
Hide? Where did I say he would need to hide? No, his clones aren't debatable. Madara saw through them because of his superior Dojutsu perception. Madara's feats are not Sasuke and Itachi's feats.

I'd like to see Naruto track Sasuke or Itachi's movements with his eyes closed.


Izanagi isn't useless. In fact it's extremely powerful. Used in the right circumstances it can give them a win. And you can't speak of the quality of the technique without Senju DNA.
I can speak of the quality of the technique without Senju DNA because it was already stated that Senju DNA makes it more powerful. Meaning any Izanagi that has been shown would be inferior to Obito's Izanagi, and it would only grant them invincibility for a limited time, afterwards their Sharingan would close, they would lose Susanoo and Hashirama would effortlessly kill them.

Not to mention Sasuke and Itachi have never been hinted to know Izanagi so its moot in this fight.

And you have no proof to say that Izanami wouldn't work on him. Why not? And he doesn't need to hide in his Susano'o nor does staying in his Susano'o negate Izanami's activation - he can strike from his Susano'o
Izanami works using the user and the opponents senses.


Itachi clearly had to replicate his physical movement to use the tech. Not Susanoos.


Not to mention Izanami only traps people who are trying to run from their results or try to change their destiny. Hashirama isn't trying to do any of that so the jutsu is null even if it could be prepared before they get pasted by Shinsuusenju.


Hashirama is fighting against 5 opponents. Combined attacks can leave Hashi wide open as I mentioned earlier with just Sasuke and Itachi alone. He can be pushed off of any wood structure, there are Hawks in Sasuke's case, and Susano'os that can throw people into the air, not to mention Gamabunta etc.
Not even sure if I'm suppose to respond to this nonsense seriously.

-Susanoo isn't throwing anyone on top of a statue that dwarfs Mountains. The thought alone is idiotic.
-Pushed off by who? None of their attacks can even reach him let alone hurt him.
-Sasuke getting on his hawk spells suicide as Hashirama's barrage of fists will easily kill him.


I have yet to see Yata Mirror be unable to block an attack, do you have proof of that?
It quite clearly states in the databook what Yata Mirror can do. I have proof of that.

Hyperbole is hyperbole.

No Limits Fallacy is evident.

When you have scans of Yata blocking an attack as powerful as Shinsuusenju then we can have this talk.



Yes, the bold did happen, you must have read another translation. Nevertheless the point I'm trying to establish is that Sasuke is quick. This is known. He's credited in the databook as having "godlike speed". So that's that.
Scan or it didn't happen.

Speed isn't going to help when faced against a statue that towers over Mountains.

Madara doesn't have anywhere near close the speed feats that either Itachi or Sasuke have. The Uchiha bros. are either equal to Hashirama in speed or likely faster which makes a big difference.
Makes a difference when the latter has a statue that towers over Mountains? Speed isn't relevant in this match at all.

Wrong, it is very relevant. Ninjutsu is a valid part of any fight. Mokuton is also ninjutsu (well 3 ninjutsu techniques). And I've listed 3 elemental styles that they have mastered which can be used in multiple ways strategically.
Itachi and Sasuke's Ninjutsu besides their MS techs are complete fodder to Hashirama. He can effortlessly block each and every one of them.

I don't recall Byakugo being able to be used multiple times. Hashi has a chakra limit.
He has enough chakra to fight a whole day. you better bring some proof if you think Byakugo can't be used multiple times when Tsunade was using it for the majority of her fight with Madara.



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I can see two blades.
That's cause Madara was able to wear him down that far. These guy can't.

1. Again, COMBINED, TIMED ATTACKS. They'll use Yasaka Magatama or Susano'o when Hashi's defense is compromised. That will happen if he's to fight against 5 Shinobi.
And once again in this long ass post you have failed to tell me how Shinsuusenju is defeated.

2. Well, it's valid in case Hashirama has a summoning, which may be quite possible given his Sage Mode.

Hasn't shown one so its not relevant.

3. That's not valid. i.e. you can't say Itachi can't use his MS because Sasuke has his eyes. Or that Danzo can't use his Izanagi in a hypothetical fight because he already used them up against Sasuke etc.

Except those are completely different situations. Itachi's Koto was programmed to make the target protect Konoha so that's what it does. Not to mention he already stated when he had it it was useless.



This is a fight involving multiple parties. I said earlier that what's dangerous are omnidirectional attacks. Ssauke attacking with Amaterasu whilst Itachi, Tsunade, Jiraiya, Oro all attack from multiple directions very quickly.

Besides, I don't see how he'll sense it. Also, Amaterasu is really quick, I doubt Hashirama would have the time to even create a clone before it attaches to him.
Nagato sensed it.




That's not valid. You can't discount Madara's Katon just because you feel Hashirama can "easily deal with it". Madara can still use Katon strategically. Katon is still powerful.
Hashirama can block Bijuu Damas but a Katon or any other lesser Ninjutsu is going to phase him? Just stop with the nonsense.

What if Hashirama runs out of chakra, will Itachi's ninjutsu still be invalid?

Hashirama running out of chakra before anyone in the other Team? Laughable....Call me when Itachi can fight for a day without falling on his face and coughing up blood.


Funny cause its true.

2. Well, you were underrating them. I was illustrating the extent of their techniques, and I did expand on how I thought they could be used in unison.
All I see is a vague post that doesn't answer the real question at hand.

3. Lol, no. 5 Kage level nin > 1. Orochimaru's walls, their Susano'o including Yata Mirror, Katsuyu, Manda and Gamabunta say hi.

5 Kage level Ninja, Susanoo, and summons get pasted by Shinsuusenju unless you tell me how they destroy it? Even if Yata can tank it. After a 10 min. Itachi will die of his sickness due to overusing Susanoo.

Since you obviously have a problem with getting to the point I'll help you:

How does Team 2 destroy Shinsuusenju? Nothing else in this post matters, answer that simple question and just ignore the rest of the stuff in my post as this is what matters. If you can't answer this question then team 2 can't win. Case and point.
 
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I became really bored of this, hence, I stopped replying.
 

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People seem to forget that hashi fights on bijuu sizes. All these close ranged jutsu are ineffective when your opponent is always a kyuubi length and more away. Simply mokuton puts him out of range of all their attacks... SM just trashes them humiliatingly.
 
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