Hashirama vs EMS Sasuke, Itachi and the Sannin

[Optimistic]

Hashirama wins.

 

[captainEO]

You were unable to counter, that's why you stopped replying.

Hmph... if you were trying to goad me, you've succeeded. So be it.

Let's continue.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Itachi solos if hes Edo

bahahahahahahaha

Hashirama wins.

 

[KidGamer65]

Hmph... if you were trying to goad me, you've succeeded. So be it.

Let's continue.

Just answer the question asked in my last post.

 

[zamki]

Hashi takes this high diff.

 

[captainEO]

Since you obviously have a problem with getting to the point I'll help you:

How does Team 2 destroy Shinsuusenju? Nothing else in this post matters, answer that simple question and just ignore the rest of the stuff in my post as this is what matters. If you can't answer this question then team 2 can't win. Case and point.

You seem to place all your faith in this "Shinsuusenju" technique.

I can liken that to me saying:
Tell me then, how does Hashirama counter Koto Amatsukami?

How does he? KA can be initiated instantly, even sooner than Shinsuusenju can, and it requires NO EYE CONTACT in the slightest.
This is certainly a valid argument because KA activated within seconds of Itachi activating his Mangekyou, and it at least takes a short while for Hashi to first ACTIVATE SM, and then weave the seals for his jutsu - TWO activations versus ONE

And, perhaps its only requirement is that it may require that one be moderately close to their opponent, perhaps at a mid-long range distance.
^EVIDENCED by Itachi/Nagato vs Naruto[

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And btw, I've already illustrated that Hashirama fights his opponents in CLOSE RANGE, so this won't be a problem. [

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Furthermore, since Hashirama is fighting 5 opponents, it will be fairly easy for them to force him to MOVE to a CERTAIN location where KA can ACTIVATE.
Don't dismiss this:

Spoiler

This is a taste of what ONE of them can do

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, and I ONLY listed ONE because I really CBA - I'm still bored.

To further contribute to this:

1. KA has never been broken, whilst Shinsuusenju has.
2. Hashirama died before Shisui gained prominence, hence he doesn't know him (well, until they were revived and Tobirama spoke of him). BUT he isn't acquainted with any of his techniques
3. Shisui is cited as the powerful Uchiha genjutsu user

Tell me how he counters it. In fact, it doesn't matter because as YOU always do, I'm going to dismiss whatever you reply and say something similar to the following:

5 Kage level Ninja, Susanoo, and summons get pasted by Shinsuusenju unless you tell me how they destroy it? Even if Yata can tank it. After a 10 min. Itachi will die of his sickness due to overusing Susanoo.

 

[KidGamer65]

You seem to place all your faith in this "Shinsuusenju" technique.

I can liken that to me saying:
Tell me then, how does Hashirama counter Koto Amatsukami?

How does he? KA can be initiated instantly, even sooner than Shinsuusenju can, and it requires NO EYE CONTACT in the slightest.
This is certainly a valid argument because KA activated within seconds of Itachi activating his Mangekyou, and it at least takes a short while for Hashi to first ACTIVATE SM, and then weave the seals for his jutsu - TWO activations versus ONE

And, perhaps its only requirement is that it may require that one be moderately close to their opponent, perhaps at a mid-long range distance.
^EVIDENCED by Itachi/Nagato vs Naruto[

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And btw, I've already illustrated that Hashirama fights his opponents in CLOSE RANGE, so this won't be a problem. [

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][

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Furthermore, since Hashirama is fighting 5 opponents, it will be fairly easy for them to force him to MOVE to a CERTAIN location where KA can ACTIVATE.
Don't dismiss this:

Spoiler

This is a taste of what ONE of them can do

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, and I ONLY listed ONE because I really CBA - I'm still bored.

To further contribute to this:

1. KA has never been broken, whilst Shinsuusenju has.
2. Hashirama died before Shisui gained prominence, hence he doesn't know him (well, until they were revived and Tobirama spoke of him). BUT he isn't acquainted with any of his techniques
3. Shisui is cited as the powerful Uchiha genjutsu user

Tell me how he counters it. In fact, it doesn't matter because as YOU always do, I'm going to dismiss whatever you reply and say something similar to the following:

Itachi is going to use the Koto that he himself already stated was unusable at the time he had it? Not to mention the fact that it was rigged to activate on sight of Itachi's transplanted eyes, and carries the command "Protect Konoha"

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Manga nullifies your whole post since it was about KA.

Toad Oil Bullet? When you are going to stop listing irrelevant jutsus that can't even scratch Shinsuusenju?

Now, how does Team 2 counter Shinsuusenju?

If you aren't going to answer the question and instead or going to keep listing fodder moves like Itachi's Katon and some other stupid shit then this debate is over.

Shinsuusenju pastes them until you tell me how they counter it.

 

[AGoodBoy]

You seem to place all your faith in this "Shinsuusenju" technique.

I can liken that to me saying:
Tell me then, how does Hashirama counter Koto Amatsukami?

How does he? KA can be initiated instantly, even sooner than Shinsuusenju can, and it requires NO EYE CONTACT in the slightest.
This is certainly a valid argument because KA activated within seconds of Itachi activating his Mangekyou, and it at least takes a short while for Hashi to first ACTIVATE SM, and then weave the seals for his jutsu - TWO activations versus ONE

And, perhaps its only requirement is that it may require that one be moderately close to their opponent, perhaps at a mid-long range distance.
^EVIDENCED by Itachi/Nagato vs Naruto[

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]

And btw, I've already illustrated that Hashirama fights his opponents in CLOSE RANGE, so this won't be a problem. [

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][

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][

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Furthermore, since Hashirama is fighting 5 opponents, it will be fairly easy for them to force him to MOVE to a CERTAIN location where KA can ACTIVATE.
Don't dismiss this:

Spoiler

This is a taste of what ONE of them can do

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, and I ONLY listed ONE because I really CBA - I'm still bored.

To further contribute to this:

1. KA has never been broken, whilst Shinsuusenju has.
2. Hashirama died before Shisui gained prominence, hence he doesn't know him (well, until they were revived and Tobirama spoke of him). BUT he isn't acquainted with any of his techniques
3. Shisui is cited as the powerful Uchiha genjutsu user

Tell me how he counters it. In fact, it doesn't matter because as YOU always do, I'm going to dismiss whatever you reply and say something similar to the following:

What would itachi make has hi do with KA?

 

[Smd]

We can debate whether the shield of Yata would withstand Cojo Kebutsu given the hype from the databook. As for the rest, complete annihilation. Their chances are next to zero as Hashirama proved formidable skills in all known areas even in base, can increase them with Sage Mode and is able to continue fighting after he used the Shinsuusenju.

dont think u or kidgamer understands what no restrictions mean.

Orochimaru alone would cause hashirama to be half deafeated.

Summons the other kages + the other ninja that wer in the war.

Jairaiya and his SM

Tsunade and her healing, she could shatter 1k hands just like EMS madara was able to do.

Not to mention itachi and his yata mirror +tosuka blade and sasuke with spaming abiltes .


dont see how hashirama beats them all.

Clones<Amatersu spam

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Madara/Hashirama overrated? They live up to their hype. You're just seriously underrating them
Anyway Hashirama takes mid diff. Shinsuusenju destroy's team 2. Also assuming flower world is stronger than madara's version, that can also hugely slow them down.

Hashirama is clearly overatted kid.

If you dont think so then you dont know what overated means.

It'd be a joke to think Hashirama could beat all of those people.

No way.

The second team takes it low difficulty.

I think Itachi and Sasuke alone could take on Hashi. Or perhaps even Itachi/Jiraiya, Sasuke/Oro.

There's a lot overrating when it comes to both Hashi and Madara. They aren't invincible.

ikr. it be a different story if orochimaru could use edo's.

And if itachi wasnt there.

The wank in this post is astounding. Shinsuusenju turns them to paste. They can't stop it nor can they guard from its attacks. Its a joke to say any of the duos you mentioned have a chance at beating him.

you desever neg rep for this dumb post.

team 2 low - mid diff.

Hashirama cant defeat edo kages+Orochimaru+Itachi+EMS Sasuke+Tsunade

your trolling if you seriously think so

 

[captainEO]

Itachi is going to use the Koto that he himself already stated was unusable at the time he had it? Not to mention the fact that it was rigged to activate on sight of Itachi's transplanted eyes, and carries the command "Protect Konoha"

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Manga nullifies your whole post since it was about KA.

Toad Oil Bullet? When you are going to stop listing irrelevant jutsus that can't even scratch Shinsuusenju?

Now, how does Team 2 counter Shinsuusenju?

If you aren't going to answer the question and instead or going to keep listing fodder moves like Itachi's Katon and some other stupid shit then this debate is over.

Shinsuusenju pastes them until you tell me how they counter it.

Lol, what a lousy counterargument.

This is a HYPOTHETICAL fight, unless you're unaware of what that means.

Hashi is dead but in this HYPOTHETICAL fight, he'd be alive, likewise for the rest. Just as Itachi would still have his eyes in this HYPOTHETICAL fight, despite Sasuke having them. What, are you going to say that Danzo can't use his own KA in a fight because he used it at the Kage meeting? NO.

Hence, I've defeated your argument.

NOW, tell me again. How does Hashirama counter Koto Amatsukami?

And, if you can't come up with anything valid, this debate is over. I'm bored of it now.

And Lol @ "keep listing fodder moves like Itachi's Katon". Lol, as if Itachi's Katon is fodder

What would itachi make has hi do with KA?

Um... perhaps "Protect Konoha", could become "Kill yourself"? Yeah, I'm sure that'd do the trick.

 

[KidGamer65]

dont think u or kidgamer understands what no restrictions mean.

Orochimaru alone would cause hashirama to be half deafeated.

Summons the other kages + the other ninja that wer in the war.

Jairaiya and his SM

Tsunade and her healing, she could shatter 1k hands just like EMS madara was able to do.

Not to mention itachi and his yata mirror +tosuka blade and sasuke with spaming abiltes .


dont see how hashirama beats them all.

Clones<Amatersu spam





Hashirama is clearly overatted kid.

If you dont think so then you dont know what overated means.




ikr. it be a different story if orochimaru could use edo's.

And if itachi wasnt there.



you desever neg rep for this dumb post.

team 2 low - mid diff.

Hashirama cant defeat edo kages+Orochimaru+Itachi+EMS Sasuke+Tsunade

your trolling if you seriously think so

Kill yourself for the bold.

Old Hiruzen and featless Tobirama are worthless in this fight. The only one worth while is Minato. Not to mention none of them can destroy Shinsuusenju so they get shitted on.

 

[captainEO]

dont think u or kidgamer understands what no restrictions mean.

Orochimaru alone would cause hashirama to be half deafeated.

Summons the other kages + the other ninja that wer in the war.

Jairaiya and his SM

Tsunade and her healing, she could shatter 1k hands just like EMS madara was able to do.

Not to mention itachi and his yata mirror +tosuka blade and sasuke with spaming abiltes .


dont see how hashirama beats them all.

Clones<Amatersu spam





Hashirama is clearly overatted kid.

If you dont think so then you dont know what overated means.




ikr. it be a different story if orochimaru could use edo's.

And if itachi wasnt there.



you desever neg rep for this dumb post.

team 2 low - mid diff.

Hashirama cant defeat edo kages+Orochimaru+Itachi+EMS Sasuke+Tsunade

your trolling if you seriously think so

Finally, someone with sense!!

<3

 

[KidGamer65]

Lol, what a lousy counterargument.

This is a HYPOTHETICAL fight, unless you're unaware of what that means.

Hashi is dead but in this HYPOTHETICAL fight, he'd be alive, likewise for the rest. Just as Itachi would still have his eyes in this HYPOTHETICAL fight, despite Sasuke having them. What, are you going to say that Danzo can't use his own KA in a fight because he used it at the Kage meeting? NO.

Hence, I've defeated your argument.

NOW, tell me again. How does Hashirama counter Koto Amatsukami?

And, if you can't come up with anything valid, this debate is over. I'm bored of it now.

And Lol @ "keep listing fodder moves like Itachi's Katon". Lol, as if Itachi's Katon is fodder

Are you stupid? Itachi NEVER HAD ACCESS TO KOTOAMATSUKAMI. Danzo did have access to it as he was able to use it on Mifune.. From the time he got it to the time he gave it away it was useless thus its not a part of his arsenal.

When you can show me a scan of Itachi ever having access to a usuable Koto then he can use it in this debate. Until then, he can't and he doesn't have it.

No answer= Debate over.

 

[captainEO]

Are you stupid? Itachi NEVER HAD ACCESS TO KOTOAMATSUKAMI. Danzo did have access to it. From the time he got it to the time he gave it away it was useless thus its not a part of his arsenal.

No answer=Debate over. Don't bother replying again.

"Itachi never had access to Koto Amatskuami"? Really? Is that why he DIDN'T use it to implant the command "Protect Konoha", oh wait... HE DID.

Lol, you really couldn't come up with a counterargument. It's quite okay because I became tired of this a long time ago.

Wasted time is wasted.

 

[Smd]

Lol, what a lousy counterargument.

This is a HYPOTHETICAL fight, unless you're unaware of what that means.

Hashi is dead but in this HYPOTHETICAL fight, he'd be alive, likewise for the rest. Just as Itachi would still have his eyes in this HYPOTHETICAL fight, despite Sasuke having them. What, are you going to say that Danzo can't use his own KA in a fight because he used it at the Kage meeting? NO.

Hence, I've defeated your argument.

NOW, tell me again. How does Hashirama counter Koto Amatsukami?

And, if you can't come up with anything valid, this debate is over. I'm bored of it now.

And Lol @ "keep listing fodder moves like Itachi's Katon". Lol, as if Itachi's Katon is fodder



Um... perhaps "Protect Konoha", could become "Kill yourself"? Yeah, I'm sure that'd do the trick.

lol... i knew as soon as i saw him useing that shitty arguement.

That he was defeated, i forgot all about KA lolol.

The OP says no restrictions, so why the french is he makeing his own restrictions?

Kill yourself for the bold.

Old Hiruzen and featless Tobirama are worthless in this fight. The only one worth while is Minato. Not to mention none of them can destroy Shinsuusenju so they get shitted on.

you shouldnt say that. could get u banned just sayain.

But its clear that you have hashirama up your ass.

Once again Hashirama cant defeat edo's and even if there arnt as strong, there in numbers.

Edo Tobirama,Minato,Hiruzen dont underestimate them in this thread.

And thats just 3 edo's.


And to answer about the tsunade part, she was able to break or send back some of madara's susanno clones.

EMS madara was able to destory the 1k hands with his susanno. Mabye tsunade cant shatter it solo, but she can sure as hell crack it.

What about amatersu also, whos to say that he cant be one shotted by amatersu.

Dont base your agruements on your opionion

Base them off the manga plz

Finally, someone with sense!!

<3

I just read the manga and try and respone accordingly

 

[KidGamer65]

you shouldnt say that. could get u banned just sayain.

But its clear that you have hashirama up your ass.

Once again Hashirama cant defeat edo's and even if there arnt as strong, there in numbers.

Edo Tobirama,Minato,Hiruzen dont underestimate them in this thread.

And thats just 3 edo's.


And to answer about the tsunade part, she was able to break or send back some of madara's susanno clones.

EMS madara was able to destory the 1k hands with his susanno. Mabye tsunade cant shatter it solo, but she can sure as hell crack it.

What about amatersu also, whos to say that he cant be one shotted by amatersu.

Dont base your agruements on your opionion

Base them off the manga plz



I just read the manga and try and respone accordingly

Not even gonna waste my time on this nonsense.

 

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Not even gonna waste my time on this nonsense.

like a child, once you dont get your way, you cry.

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Tsunade has the power, but you still havent told me how hashirama beats all the other ninja.

Until you do

Team 2 low diff

 

[AGoodBoy]

Lol, what a lousy counterargument.

This is a HYPOTHETICAL fight, unless you're unaware of what that means.

Hashi is dead but in this HYPOTHETICAL fight, he'd be alive, likewise for the rest. Just as Itachi would still have his eyes in this HYPOTHETICAL fight, despite Sasuke having them. What, are you going to say that Danzo can't use his own KA in a fight because he used it at the Kage meeting? NO.

Hence, I've defeated your argument.

NOW, tell me again. How does Hashirama counter Koto Amatsukami?

And, if you can't come up with anything valid, this debate is over. I'm bored of it now.

And Lol @ "keep listing fodder moves like Itachi's Katon". Lol, as if Itachi's Katon is fodder



Um... perhaps "Protect Konoha", could become "Kill yourself"? Yeah, I'm sure that'd do the trick.

It wouldn't. It needs to create a memory that you act on. Who'd just kill themself because it was a passing thought...
Don't make the jutsu into something it's not

 

[AGoodBoy]

like a child, once you dont get your way, you cry.

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Tsunade has the power, but you still havent told me how hashirama beats all the other ninja.

Until you do

Team 2 low diff

Mokuton, ftw, bod. They can't even stop FtW...

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

this is basically an Itachi Sasuke Jman vs Hashirama