[Theory] Sasuke Has Gotten Weaker Since Kabuto Fight

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The last time we've seen sasuke's EMS was during the fight with Kabuto I believe. However all of his appearances afterward appear to reveal only his original MS. I theorize that Sasuke isn't able to use his full power with the conflict he was going through, and the recent lack of hatred in his heart.

We know that after Sasuke's fight with kabuto, and having a heartfelt moment with his brother, Sasuke became conflicted with his goals. Ultimately resulting in him reviving Orochimaru to talk with the past Hokages. When Sasuke questioned the Hokages he learned of the past events and especially the origins of the UCHIHA power.

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Here the second Hokage talks about how the Sharingan is "Eye That Reflects Feelings". And that the loss of someone close to an Uchiha causes a change in their chakra which results in the Sharigan awakening..

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He further elaborates that once the Sharingan is awakened the Uchiha's pain loss of loved ones turns into Hatred and allows the Sharingan to grow stronger.. We have seen this change occur in sasuke many times.. mostly from his fight with Danzo and later Kakashi.

The first interaction we had between Sasuke and Itachi in part 1 he hinted and this by telling sasuke he "doesn't have enough hatred", which could mean Itachi knew all along that Uchiha strength and power comes from intense never ending hatred (Sounds like Madara huh..)


As the story has progressed now Sasuke has made his decision to stand along side Konoha and wants to become Hokage. Seeing his new resolve sasuke as shown to be alot calmer and more relaxed like his prior persona in part1 however since his decision and the process to reach his decision sasuke's EMS has yet to appear. I think because of his new solve and lack of hatred sasuke's EMS may be unstable or definitely weaker than before, resulting in the recent chapters only displaying his original MS.

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No, sauske still has access to the ms form but still has ems,blaze release and other skills
 

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No, sauske still has access to the ms form but still has ems,blaze release and other skills

Did the manga ever say you could switch between the two? And blaze release is an MS ability.
 

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Did the mange ever say you could switch between the two?

I guess Madara can switch from normal eyes to Rinnegan.... So same is possible with Sasuke's EMS.... =D =D
 

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" one is the strongest when he has to protect something " .
This is the theme of manga, and obviously sasuke wants to protect konoha, so he is now stronger than his previous versions.

don't make such stupid thread.
 

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Ever since Sasuke got his EMS he hasn't been doing that well.
 

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Although in the theory you made things look all that good, I don't think that he has gotten weaker, just cuz that it needs hatred to awaken, not to sustain.
 

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" one is the strongest when he has to protect something " .
This is the theme of manga, and obviously sasuke wants to protect konoha, so he is now stronger than his previous versions.

don't make such stupid thread.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that he isn't able to use it anymore.. I'm simply saying that it's proven throughout this manga that the Uchiha grow in power of hatred, unless your words are proof contradict the manga.. I doubt it..
 

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He most likely still has EMS because if he didn't then Kishi really f*cked him over.
 

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Although in the theory you made things look all that good, I don't think that he has gotten weaker, just cuz that it needs hatred to awaken, not to sustain.

Sasuke didn't awaken his MS right after he learned the truth about Itachi.. He awakened it when he came to terms with his idea of destroying Konoha. If that were the case it would've completely awakened while he was talking to Tobi.

OT: His Susano'o prior to EMS grew everytime he was enraged.. (5 Kage Summit)
 
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Don't let people call this thread stupid. It makes sense.
 

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Did the manga ever say you could switch between the two? And blaze release is an MS ability.

blaze release isnt a ms abillity, its a KKG advanced chakra nature.
 

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blaze release isnt a ms abillity, its a KKG advanced chakra nature.
What you just said.. loss some credibility.. You need Amaterasu (A legit MS ability) to implement blaze release dude. Without it, is like saying you can only manipulate Amaterasu if someone is around to create it.
 

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Sasuke just didnt show his EMS to the Kages. He wanted to have an ace up his sleeve you know?=D

Kakashi didnt show his 1000 jutsu either but we still believe that he knows so many.
 

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Sasuke just didnt show his EMS to the Kages. He wanted to have an ace up his sleeve you know?=D

Kakashi didnt show his 1000 jutsu either but we still believe that he knows so many.

How the Hell would they have known if it was EMS or not. They could have just thought his EMS was MS.
 

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In reality love is stronger than hate
Unlike your thoery I think he'd get a better ems
Proof is itachi... itachi loved his younger bro so much that he became that strong and even took the blame of his clan destruction, that feeling is not hatred but love...
 

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In reality love is stronger than hate
Unlike your thoery I think he'd get a better ems
Proof is itachi... itachi loved his younger bro so much that he became that strong and even took the blame of his clan destruction, that feeling is not hatred but love...

I like your response alot better than the other repsonses cause it makes sense..

OT: If this was the case then why not shelter Sasuke in love like a good big brother? Instead of preaching Hatred (which can account for all of sasuke's power up until this point

Itachi most likely knew everything that the Second talked about, if not more regarding the Uchiha power struggle. If he felt love was stronger, he should've helped his brother.. however Itachi felt that he was helping his brother by shoving hatred down his throat because he wanted the sole survivor to be the strongest.
 
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