So Kishi wasn't trolling back then!!

[Naruto KM V2]

minato is a boss and he had a epic entrance minato = epicgod

 

[Sennin of Logic]

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Look how big that shit is. Its almost the size of the juubi. Part 1 living minato never had enough chakra to S/T that, more over it would take way way more time.
U wanna use kurama as benchmark here? Hachibi was slightly bigger then juubi's eyeball and is same in size as kurama. Look at freaking rest of juubi , how many kuramas will fit there????

But there are really 2 ways of seeing this.
1. Even kakashi supposedly can warp juubi. Which isnt really a big feat for minato then, according to his hype.
2. This is part 2. No this is war arc, everything got more DBZed here.

U cant possibly deny edo tensei play here. It does help minato get stronger.

Actually, I can. Edo's capability's remain the same as when they were alive. They just don't get tired. If being an edo means that you can buff your jutsu, then that means that Madara, Nagato, edo kage (2nd mizukage), and Itachi have all been boosted and would have been crushed by the other characters if they were alive. We've seen no evidence of this. Therefore, Minato was capable of doing this when he was alive.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Actually, I can. Edo's capability's remain the same as when they were alive. They just don't get tired. If being an edo means that you can buff your jutsu, then that means that Madara, Nagato, edo kage (2nd mizukage), and Itachi have all been boosted and would have been crushed by the other characters if they were alive. We've seen no evidence of this. Therefore, Minato was capable of doing this when he was alive.

Not quite. Edo capability allows zombie to bypass chakra output limit from the body w/o aftermath. In other words an edo can use all of its chakra for 1 single move and get refilled asap

Much credible and not BS explanation would be that minato has become sort of jinchuriki of yin kurama

 

[FourthLegacy]

Pfft, it didn't look like he warped the Bijuu Dama to me. smh.

You need to re read the chapter...

 

[FourthLegacy]

You're missing my point. If teleporting Kurama was what exhausted him, teleporting a TBB the size of his mouth should have required effort from Minato. We didn't see it. We just say him completely fresh after that.

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Please show me the chapter where it's stated that they follow the same princibals. If they do, it's certainly reduced for space-time barrier

He fought with obito before though.

Also Edo=unlimited chakra...but im surprised at how fast he did it, so im guessing he had experience.

 

[KidGamer65]

Kakashi wank last week and Minato wank this week....I wonder who its going to be next week?

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Not quite. Edo capability allows zombie to bypass chakra output limit from the body w/o aftermath. In other words an edo can use all of its chakra for 1 single move and get refilled asap

Much credible and not BS explanation would be that minato has become sort of jinchuriki of yin kurama

I haven't seen the "bypass" happen. Itachi, for example, had reason to use it against Kabuto, but he didn't get any stronger. This suggest that it doesn't exist.

As for Minato being a jinchuiki, it's possible. However, we're not seeing the characteristics that come with drawing the 9 tails chakra (being feral).

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Kakashi wank last week and Minato wank this week....I wonder who its going to be next week?

Probably Naruto after he receives the yin chakra.

 

[KidGamer65]

Probably Naruto after he receives the yin chakra.

Lmao, this is going to fun to watch.

 

[AlphaScythian]

I haven't seen the "bypass" happen. Itachi, for example, had reason to use it against Kabuto, but he didn't get any stronger. This suggest that it doesn't exist.

Yes we havent. However logically its there. Itachi could possible had smaller PS if needed, but he never even went full susanoo on kabuto and use it once just to bring totsuka.

As for Minato being a jinchuiki, it's possible. However, we're not seeing the characteristics that come with drawing the 9 tails chakra (being feral).

True, but that's why i said sort of jinchuriki, however we didnt really see him use S/T barrier, we just conclude he did.

 

[Strawberry]

if your trying to prove hes a baws no proving needed he is indeed a bawss of the highest calibre

 

[AlphaScythian]

Kakashi wank last week and Minato wank this week....I wonder who its going to be next week?

Im gonna bet on tobirama or hiruzen. Lastly it will be Sasuke ofc lol

 

[Omega]

So everybody who is agianst this guy just stop. Yes he is happy minato finally silenced some haters and yes i agree it shouldnt go to far or minato fanboys will be like the itachi fanbase, but really last chapter people were getting wet cuz naruto looked cool in one page. At least minato actually did something.

 

[shelke]

You really wanna do this?

1. Minato self teleported like 10 times.
2. He teleported with Kushina and Naruto 2 times each.
3. Teleported a full powered TBB from Kurama.
4. Fought and beat Obito.
5. Summoned Gamabunta.
6. Teleported Kurama with a bijjudama.
7. Then he was going to put up a barrier but Kushina who was out of chakra

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Even after all these chakra draining tasks the Boss wasn't out of chakra, by the time the TNJ was over.

Minato performed another forbidden

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Then we saw

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it looks as his he's recharged.

This is where he's body went

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8. He then summoned the altar.
9. took Kurama's attack like a boss.
10. then summoned Gerotora.

11. Finally he Sealed Kushina's chakra and his remaining chakra in the Hakke Fuuin [another S-Ranked tech]

He sealed his remaining Chkara meaning he had chakra left even after all those chakra tanking events.

Minato is simply chakra bake-mono. So teleporting Juubi's TBB isn't a feat by his standards.

So please use the Butthurt cream I gave you, here try this one, its from a different brand

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S/T barrier and FTG mechanics are quite different. Both of them are not even comparable on this ground. Your examples, hence, have no merit on this front when the discussion is for S/T Barrier NOT FTG. Stop calling people butt-hurt and look at one simple fact: the larger the object the greater the chakra consumption. The dude was literally almost out of chakra after he teleported Kurama to a different locality. Going by your logic, Kakashi should Kamui Hachibi under normal circumstances as well, when we both know it's an impossibility given the constraints of the technique.

He would never have been able to accomplish this without this form he's currently in; infinite chakra and Zetsu's body. At least use your head and think this coolly. You are coming across as a typical fanboy who is no different than any other.

 

[Blaze Release]

Again i am not sure why people are going at owarij and uploading butthurt creams lol.
This is what is wrong with nb. When somebody has a greater understanding of the manga or great foresight he is called a hater or a fanboy. Those two tags are easily dished out.

Now i have a fairly decent idea of his jukkuin ninjutsu works and going by owarij's post as well he has a decent grasp.
Nothing so far he has said, if you understand how jukuin ninjutsu works to call him a hater or upload butt hurt creams.

Size and chakra when it comes to jukkikin ninjutsu goes hand in hand, something that jiraiya in part 1 mentioned to naruto when he tried teaching him the kuchiyose. So what you can teleport goes hand in hand with how much chakra you put into it. Something that minato later established when he said he needed to master up enough chakra to teleport kurama

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A few chapter later he was thinking that his reserves was low.

Now the juubi tbb dwarfs the hachibi and the hachibi's tbb [

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I see nothing wrong with what owarij is proposing considering kakashi needed kurama's chakra to teleport the hachibi and even then he didn;t manage to teleprot it all and missed a tail. If the tbb dwarfs the hachibi it speaks for itself.

Wouldn't be wise to throw insults at owarij, when it is unknown and most likely probable. Not defending him, but an understanding of jikuukin ninjutsu makes it easy to digest what he is saying

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Again i am not sure why people are going at owarij and uploading butthurt creams lol.
This is what is wrong with nb. When somebody has a greater understanding of the manga or great foresight he is called a hater or a fanboy. Those two tags are easily dished out.

Now i have a fairly decent idea of his jukkuin ninjutsu works and going by owarij's post as well he has a decent grasp.
Nothing so far he has said, if you understand how jukuin ninjutsu works to call him a hater or upload butt hurt creams.

Size and chakra when it comes to jukkikin ninjutsu goes hand in hand, something that jiraiya in part 1 mentioned to naruto when he tried teaching him the kuchiyose. So what you can teleport goes hand in hand with how much chakra you put into it. Something that minato later established when he said he needed to master up enough chakra to teleport kurama

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A few chapter later he was thinking that his reserves was low.

Now the juubi tbb dwarfs the hachibi and the hachibi's tbb [

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].

I see nothing wrong with what owarij is proposing considering kakashi needed kurama's chakra to teleport the hachibi and even then he didn;t manage to teleprot it all and missed a tail. If the tbb dwarfs the hachibi it speaks for itself.

Wouldn't be wise to throw insults at owarij, when it is unknown and most likely probable. Not defending him, but an understanding of jikuukin ninjutsu makes it easy to digest what he is saying

That was a summoning, not a barrier. They're special, considering that Obito could use one to stop Bee despite not having nearly as much chakra as him.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Yes we havent. However logically its there. Itachi could possible had smaller PS if needed, but he never even went full susanoo on kabuto and use it once just to bring totsuka.
True, but that's why i said sort of jinchuriki, however we didnt really see him use S/T barrier, we just conclude he did.

I think you're grasping at straws with the edo thing. However, you're right, we can't confirm it was a barrier. I'm just assuming that is was since he can use it against projectiles without much effort and clearly, using FTG on a TBB that size is impossible if doing it on Kurama wore him out.

 

[Blaze Release]

That was a summoning, not a barrier. They're special, considering that Obito could use one to stop Bee despite not having nearly as much chakra as him.

I know but the term jikuukin is a canopy for all s/t based techniques, whether a barrier based s/t technique or the kuchiyose. That barrier is a variate of the hiraishin.

All i am saying is while i laughed IRL at those butt hurt creams, i can understand what owarij is saying

 

[Sennin of Logic]

I know but the term jikuukin is a canopy for all s/t based techniques, whether a barrier based s/t technique or the kuchiyose. That barrier is a variate of the hiraishin.

All i am saying is while i laughed IRL at those butt hurt creams, i can understand what owarij is saying

Yeah, I get where he's coming from, but I don't think he's thinking this all the way through.

 

[AlphaScythian]

That was a summoning, not a barrier. They're special, considering that Obito could use one to stop Bee despite not having nearly as much chakra as him.

Summoning and S/T n barrier use same mechanic for different means.
In common:
One must have enough chakra for the summon, S/T of desired size.
One must be able to build up needed amount of chakra and must do it fast enough.