Anything would shatter Yata Mirror

[KCMNaruto]

Wrong, completly wrong

I have to disagree, Yata mirror is overated too much. I always looked at it like that:

My first interpretation of Databook:

Yata mirror > any elemental attacks(probably even then exist limit, how much power it can tank. I mean Juubi nature attack Could probably break through Yata)

Yata mirror < Any non elemental attacks (Bijuu dama shatter it by touch alone)

Second Interpretation of Databook:

Yata mirror > Any attack - however durability and strength of Yata depends from User itself..., I mean

Itachi's wielding Yata Mirror > Any attack besides (Bijuudama, Juubi nature disaster attack...)

Sage of six paths wieling Yata mirror > Any attack besides the biggest and most powerfull Juubi's bijuudama

That it =D

Conclusion: Itachi's fans/fanboys/wankers are right about Yata, but wrong about Itachi himself, because Yata mirror durability depends from user itself and SOSP > Itachi. Anyone stronger then Itachi by big margin can shatter Yata mirror wielded by Itachi.

This is very probably explenation Kishi give us =D,

Kishi: trolololol

 

[Draphsin]

And I already proved how databook statements are not always 100% true, so there no reason to totally go by this.

Databook statements are debateable when something contradicts it

Theres nothing in the manga or databook that contradicts yata mirrors hype, so we have to go by what is written...Because thats all we have to go off of

Yata mirror > any elemental attacks(probably even then exist limit, how much power it can tank. I mean Juubi nature attack Could probably break through Yata)

Yata mirror < Any non elemental attacks (Bijuu dama shatter it by touch alone)

Show me the proof that yata mirror cant deflect non-elemental attacks

 

[KCMNaruto]

Show me the proof that yata mirror cant deflect non-elemental attacks

You are right I don't have proof, however I can consider abscense of proof supporting Yata mirror can tank bijuudama as my proof, so I can say Kishi has did it on purpouse to keep Yata mirror hype. In other words he didn't want to take his words back so he decided to not put Yata mirror to test against Bijuudama.

That it

 

[Fanta]

Databook statements are debateable when something contradicts it

Theres nothing in the manga or databook that contradicts yata mirrors hype, so we have to go by what is written...Because thats all we have to go off of

Nope, only extreme fanboys use this crappy logic for a situation like this.

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

And I already proved how databook statements are not always 100% true, so there no reason to totally go by this.



Minato was proven the fastest in Naruto. His FTG is instant, you can't get any faster than that.

Also the situation I'm referring to is whether yata can tank everything, that includes juubi bomb ect.. I think you get the idea.

How does that make him faster than anyone not his base speed thats a jutsu

what if we gave chouji the freaking ftg or Hirashin what is he the fastest then???

 

[Draphsin]

Nope, only Itachi fanboys use this crappy logic.

Sorry but Juubi bomb shatters yata mirror, my reason? it's the Juubi.. once again only Itachi wankers would argue against this.

Everything you say is pure goddamn speculation...

You actually get under my skin because you seriously deny facts and arent just playing around to be one of those trolls...

Manga & databook clearly prove you wrong, yet you go on to make assumptions such as "tbb shatters yata mirror"...Where the f*ck is the basis for this argument? The juubi? Please tell me what the hell he's done to prove that yata cant tank its attack?

You are right I don't have proof, however I can consider abscense of proof supporting Yata mirror can tank bijuudama as my proof, so I can say Kishi has did it on purpouse to keep Yata mirror hype. In other words he didn't want to take his words back so he decided to not put Yata mirror to test against Bijuudama.

That it

Rashomen gates easily deflected a tbb without shattering.

So by your logic, rashomen gates >>> Yata mirror?? WTF?

So a defensive jutsu, with absolutely no hype stating what it can do, is stronger than a weapon that is stated to do that sort of thing???....riiiight....U_U

 

[Fanta]

Everything you say is pure goddamn speculation...

You actually get under my skin because you seriously deny facts and arent just playing around to be one of those trolls...

Manga & databook clearly prove you wrong, yet you go on to make assumptions such as "tbb shatters yata mirror"...Where the f*ck is the basis for this argument? The juubi? Please tell me what the hell he's done to prove that yata cant tank its attack?

Yeah, I'm done. Don't have time with silly fanboys thinking yata mirror is indestructible because of what zetsu said.

 

[Draphsin]

Yeah, I'm done. Don't have time with silly fanboys thinking yata mirror is indestructible because of what zetsu said.

Zetsu & databook

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

Yeah, I'm done. Don't have time with silly fanboys thinking yata mirror is indestructible because of what zetsu said.

That Zetsu had the will of Madara {theblack one} and Harashima{the white one}

 

[Draphsin]

That Zetsu had the will of Madara {theblack one} and Harashima{the white one}

Doesnt matter, databook completely "shatters" this debate Lol

 

[Fanta]

Zetsu & databook

So I can also say that Hiruzen is the strongest shinobi surpassing Hashirama and Madara going by hype and databook. Problem?

 

[Draphsin]

So I can also say that Hiruzen is the strongest shinobi surpassing Hashirama and Madara going by hype and databook. Problem?

Lol, manga contradicts that statement, so it can be debated.

Show me the manga contradicting yata's hype? Problem? =D

 

[Fanta]

Lol, manga contradicts that statement, so it can be debated.

Show me the manga contradicting yata's hype? Problem? =D

Where does manga contradict it? Nobody knows what feats Prime Hiruzen had. Problem?

 

[Momo86]

Also the situation I'm referring to is whether yata can tank everything, that includes juubi bomb ect.. I think you get the idea.

My point is that trying to measure how some jutsu could EXACTLY fare against ALL others jutsu (including known and unknown ones) is pointless. Not in Yata but in just any other instance. The Yata could, or could not, block all attacks. No way to know.

One thing I know for sure is that the OP is wrong, I doubt the Yata is featless. I suspect Itachi would have been electocuted without it. The fight, the databook, Zetsu, neither of those are conclusive and undisputable proofs that the Yata is a good defense but summing it all up you get the idea that it is.

Conversely, a statement like "no jutsu ever works against the Yata" is basically impossible to prove even if fifteen databooks combined stated it. It would be proven if every jutsu in the Narutoverse from Rasengan to Beetle Sphere is thrown at it and it resists all of those and all possibile combination of those. Since that's never going to happen, one has no way to affirm that the Yata makes one impervious to all powers in the Narutoverse. A strong concussive force may very well break it, and two natures combined could break it as well.

 

[Fanta]

My point is that trying to measure how some jutsu could EXACTLY fare against ALL others jutsu (including known and unknown ones) is pointless. Not in Yata but in just any other instance. The Yata could, or could not, block all attacks. No way to know.

One thing I know for sure is that the OP is wrong, I doubt the Yata is featless. I suspect Itachi would have been electocuted without it. The fight, the databook, Zetsu, neither of those are conclusive and undisputable proofs that the Yata is a good defense but summing it all up you get the idea that it is.

Conversely, a statement like "no jutsu ever works against the Yata" is basically impossible to prove even if fifteen databooks combined stated it. It would be proven if every jutsu in the Narutoverse from Rasengan to Beetle Sphere is thrown at it and it resists all of those and all possibile combination of those. Since that's never going to happen, one has no way to affirm that the Yata makes one impervious to all powers in the Narutoverse. A strong concussive force may very well break it, and two natures combined could break it as well.

That's exactly my point.

 

[Draphsin]

Where does manga contradict it? Nobody knows what feats Prime Hiruzen had. Problem?

Okay, then prime hiruzen > Hashi & madara according to databook (assuming you think that prime hiruzen somehow has a jutsu to stop 1000 hands, or a PS cloaked kurama).

Bringing hiruzen into this does nothing for you, because he could very well be stronger than hashi & madara

 

[Fanta]

Okay, then prime hiruzen > Hashi & madara according to databook (assuming you think that prime hiruzen somehow has a jutsu to stop 1000 hands, or a PS cloaked kurama).

Bringing hiruzen into this does nothing for you, because he could very well be stronger than hashi & madara

But then why is it socially acceptable to say Hashirama > Hurizen? hmm

This was a fun talk.

 

[Uchiha Gohan]

any self respecting attack would break it. its useless. its featless. its nothing. its not even worth being used in itachis edo fights. no one worth their salt ever mentoned anything about him having it or expressed worry about fighting it.
one sentence of hype from a plant android fodder means literally nothing and shows how worthless the hype was, that it couldnt even come from itachis own mouth meaning even he thinks its useless and worthless.
why on earth would anyone think it was useful or strong when its done nothing and blocked nothing in 629 chapters except for weak useless paper bombs from a dying sasuke? oh right because people make shit up and overhype a featless shield that did nothing and is nothing.
and dont bring up the databook because its being contradicted and discredited more than ever in this war alone. how sad it is that people resort to outdated guidebooks with incorrrct info littered throughout to justify their argument of which they have none since the mirror is more featless than sakumo?

Kinda want to know where you have been, Itachi has been done and over with for awhile. No need to discuss anything XD

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

But then why is it socially acceptable to say Hashirama > Hurizen? hmm

This was a fun talk.

does Saru have anything to beat Madara or Hashi with after looking at the Valley fight i concur he doesnt

 

[Fanta]

does Saru have anything to beat Madara or Hashi with after looking at the Valley fight i concur he doesnt

Don't worry I know he gets stomped. Just proving that a simple databook statement and 1 line that a character said does not mean that it's 100% true which is what these Itachi wankers are saying.

According to there logic Hurizen solo's Narutoverse.