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Love how most of the Tsunade ahters give BS reasons to counter the thread.. instead of giving reasons and facts. Nice job buddy.

And I just wanna make clear that marking on Mito's forehead is not the same as the one on Tsunade's. Mito's is brownsih. While Tsunade's resembles her grandfather's necklace.

Jinton=Molecular damage.
Tsunade heals at a cellular rate.

Jinton kills her as Molecules are smaller than Cells.

She duplicates her cells to heal.
Can't duplicate what's been turn into molecular dust.

You saying Tsunade heals at a molecular rate is garbage that you pulled from your arse. Manga says cellular duplication so it is.
What did I just read.. X_X

You need to go read how her technique works again.
 
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Keep on being a fool and denying manga facts.

Lol lol no I'm not negating manga facts, i am going with it, BTW your phenomenally retarded..... Let me elucidate coherently to you lol this is so funny i have to go step by step with a person, even a 9 year old kid would apprehend this fact.

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I Tsunade store chackra in her YIN SEAL,
II That chackra is what she used to Fertilize/Stimulate her enzymes (Enzymes are molecules; if Tsunade can fertilize them she heals on a molecular level)
III after she used that chackra and stimulates the production of her enzymes it accelerates her cells duplication rate, in which if she cant fertilize her enzymes in the first place she cant change or birth new cells. So her enzymes/large molecules are the essential things for her regenerating HENCE TSUNADE HEALS ON A MOLECULAR SCALE, NOT CELLULAR
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im sorry but you points about that are invalid
If she gest fully hit by a jinton attack she will be dust
dust can not produce new cells or anything its dust there wont be any tsunade anyme just dust.
and she wont be able to get rid of amateratsu as your "you can seal anything out of chakra inside a yin seal" point is quite asuming too

PROVIDE FACTS TO THIS ^^^^ NOT YOUR OPINIONS BRO. That was Manga/databook facts i provide above, the only way you can win over that is provide some scans as to what you just said............
Tsunade heals from Jinton whether you like it or not, it will pulverize her first sets of cells by the time those cells have been destroyed they have already been replicated and replace for another attack, as she said its her Tank of chackra that changes her Enzymes rapidly to birth new cells..
What i can agree with you is if, Onoki is capable to execute enough jinton to wear Tsunade out of chackra then and only then she can be killed by the attack, However as you can clearly see, it was STATED TO CONSUMED A LOT OF STAMINA BEING A KEKE TOTA, 3 jinton shots would clean him out and if he's in his prime i assume 5 jinton attacks would tire him out.

thats still incomparable to a woman whose level of chackra in on BIJUU, able to heal AN ENTIRE VILLAGE AND PROTECT THEM FROM A DIRECT ATTACK in the process, she contributed to his dust release and MADE IT MEGA BIG, something Onoki is not even capable to do in his prime.
 
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Very good read, you put alot of work into this (y) gj man. I would like to believe you on the whole amerterasu counter that would make her so much more awesome!!
 

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Very good read, you put alot of work into this (y) gj man. I would like to believe you on the whole amerterasu counter that would make her so much more awesome!!

well its proven when she went through the SANDAIME Raikage technique and when Dan refill her, those steam appearing from her skin is no different from those appeared from the scroll, besides steam is vapor and its the steam from the scroll Jiriaya used to envelope the black flames and sealed it in the centre, well the Yin seal is a kanji like that scroll and when ever she uses it steams appears from her body when she's healing, besides MANGA AND DATA-BOOKS TOLD US THAT ITS A POWERFUL SEALING JUTSU (we should be in awe or expect less) that has regenerative properties.
 

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now that his hands are better and he stole DSM FROM KABUTO i dont think he needs body to survive, he's just after SASUKE'S EYES THAT'S ALL, thats why he craves for a uchiha body because of the sharingan. Pertaining to Tsunade she is immortal bro we have seen her tank severe damages from orochimaru kusanagi sword; EVEN GET PIERCE IN THE HEART BEFORE SHE ACTIVATES REGEN and she still can retaliate complicatedly in her battered stated, to the extent of even summoning a slug when being bisected, but remember bro all Sannins have affinities for the summonings and as Katsuyu said" I CAN SURVIVE BEING SPLIT APART" Just shows you the reason why Tsunade says she's fine and can handle being BISECTED AND HEALING THE KAGES.

Wrong about both. Orochimaru started doing the research when he had his hands, as at the time he fought Hiruzen, he had done some body transfers, so even with his hands back, he will still need it, and he only collected his chakra from Kabuto's body. It doesnt make him immortal. Tsunade summoned Katsuyu after being cut in 2, but she wont survive that state, she'll still die soon.
 
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Wrong about both. Orochimaru started doing the research when he had his hands, as at the time he fought Hiruzen, he had done some body transfers, so even with his hands back, he will still need it, and he only collected his chakra from Kabuto's body. It doesnt make him immortal. Tsunade summoned Katsuyu after being cut in 2, but she wont survive that state, she'll still die soon.

Did you not read the chapter?....Wait....zetso just posted the page where it clearly states she could be revived simply...lol C'mon now...
 

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PROVIDE FACTS TO THIS ^^^^ NOT YOUR OPINIONS BRO. That was Manga/databook facts i provide above, the only way you can win over that is provide some scans as to what you just said............
Tsunade heals from Jinton whether you like it or not, it will pulverize her first sets of cells by the time those cells have been destroyed they have already been replicated and replace for another attack, as she said its her Tank of chackra that changes her Enzymes rapidly to birth new cells..
What i can agree with you is if, Onoki is capable to execute enough jinton to wear Tsunade out of chackra then and only then she can be killed by the attack, However as you can clearly see, it was STATED TO CONSUMED A LOT OF STAMINA BEING A KEKE TOTA, 3 jinton shots would clean him out and if he's in his prime i assume 5 jinton attacks would tire him out.

thats still incomparable to a woman whose level of chackra in on BIJUU, able to heal AN ENTIRE VILLAGE AND PROTECT THEM FROM A DIRECT ATTACK in the process, she contributed to his dust release and MADE IT MEGA BIG, something Onoki is not even capable to do in his prime.

dude... your interpretation on mangafacts are opinion too. those scas dont "proof" anything.
give me scan of the manga/databook page saying mito sealed the kyubii into a yin seal.
give me a scan showing us that tsunades "first set" of cells as you called it so nicely will waer of an amateratsu
give me proof that tsunade could come back from nothing but dust.
jinton makes her dust. if there is nothing left from tsunade but dust and that in an instant there is nothing left to produce new cells.
and if her head is gone tell me how she could survive
if her cells are gone how the f** should they duplicate

im apriciating your hard work on this thread and im on your side if your say tsunade is damn hard to kill
but tsunade surviving jinton or amateratsu by just using her yin seal is unproofed nonsense
 

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Wrong about both. Orochimaru started doing the research when he had his hands, as at the time he fought Hiruzen, he had done some body transfers, so even with his hands back, he will still need it, and he only collected his chakra from Kabuto's body. It doesnt make him immortal. Tsunade summoned Katsuyu after being cut in 2, but she wont survive that state, she'll still die soon.

How do you know that she wont survive?
How do you know that orochimaru will still need a body for vitality and not for the sharigan?
if he absorb all the SENNIN CHACKRA Kabuto had increased/partially perfected then it just shows us that his body isn't weak and frail anymore, hence why he wanted a suitable vessel, ( when his hands were working before he couldn't absorb high levels chackra to prolong his latter body in operation)
 

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You have a point on some. She can tank Ama untill her chakra runs out she would have to seal it before hand. Jinton is far fetch though.
 

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She can die, just not in battle, but it seems like instead of using her remaining chakra for the seal, she'll use it to heal the 4 kage instead
 

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Ok didn't read but disagreed
 

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dude... your interpretation on mangafacts are opinion too. those scas dont "proof" anything.
Really they dont? are you mean they dont prove anything for your purpose
give me scan of the manga/databook page saying mito sealed the kyubii into a yin seal.

Right here it was stated that at one point in her husband's fight she completely took control of the beast to gain power for Hashirama
During her husband's battle against Madara Uchiha at the Valley of the End, Hashirama at some point gained control of Kurama. To gain power for her husband, Mito used a fūinjutsu to seal Kurama within herself, becoming the tailed beast's first jinchūriki.[2] Despite the seal's strength, it almost broke at some later point when she was going through childbirth.[3] Eventually, her husband died in war, and Mito was left a widow.
Mito and KushinaAn elderly Mito comforting her successor, Kushina.

Towards the final years of her life, it was decided that a new host for Kurama would have to be found. Kushina Uzumaki, one of Mito's clansmen, was then selected for the role due to her special chakra. Terrified by the idea of having been taken from her home to become a jinchūriki, Mito comforted her, and told Kushina that in order to counter the fox's hatred, she needed to fill herself with love.[4] Some time after this, the beast was presumably extracted from within Mito and sealed into Kushina.
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And the fact that Hashirama and Madara kept fighting day in and day out would give her the opportunity to seal the beast
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OTHER EVIDENCE TO SUCH
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give me a scan showing us that tsunades "first set" of cells as you called it so nicely will waer of an amateratsu
SIGH i posted that above but since you want further info as to how she easily escape this by regenerating well here as you can see this is what the human cells looks like
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As we know it the flames would ignite her skin, but working slow as usual(all the times it has been cast on someone, it took considerable amount of time to burn via them)Tsunade's YIN SEAL would already stimulating her Enzymes (Enzymes are LARGE MOLECULES THAT ARE SMALLER THAN A CELL) to enhance her cell production speed, to regrow a new skin layer, similar to how Byakugou healed her from those flames. The black flames are different however it was stated that it rots away what its been cast on, when it finishes its duty then it goes aside to another object. Then if she gets ignited all it will do is just rots her top layer of cells and the second one will just replace those while it disperse to another target( i posted all these info in my thread i cant afford to go over such key explanations when my computer is undergo difficulties at the minute, just work with me)Hence why after Gaara infused chakra in his sand it didn't burn it at all, because the black flames had rotted away the chackra then move on leaving the sand behind bro........

give me proof that tsunade could come back from nothing but dust.
jinton makes her dust. if there is nothing left from tsunade but dust and that in an instant there is nothing left to produce new cells.
and if her head is gone tell me how she could survive
if her cells are gone how the f** should they duplicate
Your still misunderstanding jinton, when her regen is on she's already birthing new ENZYMES to counter jinton (being an attack on a MOLECULAR SCALE)by the time she's engulf Tsunade would already counter jinton with her second layer of ENZYMES AND CELLS for another jinton attack again. Jinton will only turn her first layer to dust, hence why she said she cant be killed because its her chackra she used to fertilize her enzymes to ACCELERATE HER CELLS RAPID REFORMATION RATE...
Jinton isn't fast when being used until it blasts off and engulf its foe, i thought you read my thread? she has so many counters before it confines her

im apriciating your hard work on this thread and im on your side if your say tsunade is damn hard to kill
but tsunade surviving jinton or amateratsu by just using her yin seal is unproofed nonsense
It has already been proven by Manga and Databook sir and i appreciate your views but right now no one opinion can conquer whats been stated and displayed...... we have to just go by the logic and rule WHICH SAYS ONCE SHE HAS CHACKRA SHE CANT BE KILLED.
 

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So Tsunade Solo? as long as she has chakra.

I dont agreed on the Tsunade survive jinton part, What tsunade goin to regenerate if a jinto can cover her whole freaking body lol!, there will be nothing left to regenerate!.

Tsunade can tank amataresu by regenerating the damage done but it will be some kind of never ending circle that will be produced there. Ama damage>Tsunade heals, both happens at the same times and it will go on until tsunade wrongs out of chakra. now i think the more damage tsunade receive the more chakra she will waste regenerating.

Sealing Amataresu with yin Release!, until i see Tsunade performing such feat i will buy it, jiraya had and special scroll with a sealing tecnique. that's jiraya feat not Tsunade.

But well done, long thread and a lot of over repeated facts. i felt like inside izanami itself.:cool:
 

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So Tsunade Solo? as long as she has chakra.

I dont agreed on the Tsunade survive jinton part, What tsunade goin to regenerate if a jinto can cover her whole freaking body lol!, there will be nothing left to regenerate!.
i know its kinda hard to understand right off the bat, but it has been proven various times in manga so we just have to live with it

Tsunade can tank amataresu by regenerating the damage done but it will be some kind of never ending circle that will be produced there. Ama damage>Tsunade heals, both happens at the same times and it will go on until tsunade wrongs out of chakra. now i think the more damage tsunade receive the more chakra she will waste regenerating.
yes the more damage she recieves the more chackra she has to use to heal those inflicted wounds

Sealing Amataresu with yin Release!, until i see Tsunade performing such feat i will buy it, jiraya had and special scroll with a sealing tecnique. that's jiraya feat not Tsunade.
Lol Lol a few people wont accept those manga facts indicating that Tsunade's Yin seal can seal away Amaterasu bro, its a seal you know, seal stores binds and confines things, hence why DB stated in the beginning A POWERFUL SEALING JUTSU i mean she has used it to seal away other chackra sources, why not black flames?
But well done, long thread and a lot of over repeated facts. i felt like inside izanami itself.:cool:
Lol sorry about that just ensuring that everyone gets a clear view as to her YIN SEAL, anyways i respect the fact that your not a hypocritical thinker like some of the members who would even go to the extreme of favoring their own opinion above manga/DB key facts
 

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This possibly could be true to a degree, but we just have to live with it


thanks i respect that, its not even a big deal, people rather uchiha fanboys are just exaggerating the effects of Amaterasu, it hasn't killed anyone.



dude I have posted how she seals the black flames, if you had taken time out and read you would have saw it, but you are too hasty with your disses to throw at me and your irrelevant opinions doesn't counts at this point, its what been indicated/displayed we go by around here, not what you think or believe


I've read your post and you did not provide any evidence as to how she seals amaterasu..her seal on the forehead allows her to store her chakra that is inside her body. Now if you would be kind enough to post a manga page where she seals external chakra such as an attack then you will have a solid ground about your theory. Jinton destroys on a molecular level as stated by manga and others in this thread while tsunade duplicates her cells..now ill explain this as clear as possible..jinton will disintegrate all molecules that make up tsunade's body and that includes cells..no cells to divide = no healing = tsunade turned to dust. Tbb is self explanatory. Now you can be a fanboy and believe the hyperbole that she can't die in battle and disregard this post if you want.
 

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I've read your post and you did not provide any evidence as to how she seals amaterasu..her seal on the forehead allows her to store her chakra that is inside her body. Now if you would be kind enough to post a manga page where she seals external chakra such as an attack then you will have a solid ground about your theory. Jinton destroys on a molecular level as stated by manga and others in this thread while tsunade duplicates her cells..now ill explain this as clear as possible..jinton will disintegrate all molecules that make up tsunade's body and that includes cell. Tsunade..no cells to divide = no healing = tsunade turned to dust. Tbb is self explanatory. Now you can be a fanboy and believe the hyperbole that she can't die in battle and disregard this post if you want.

What do you mean, you dont see when she sealed external chackra, ( i have technicalities with my computer and so i'm not able to post additional images right now, maybe tomorrow) read when Dan refill her she used that chackra to reform the seal. you should also read when she went via lightning, i explained coherently with DB (databook facts) as to why she survived, For the black flames part, just scroll down until you see the picture of GAARA from there on out i stated how she seals it with her YIN SEAL, thats all you need to read.

Ok i know you have the explosion of jinton in your brain, but really it was stated that Tsunade heals on a MOLECULAR SCALE because of the fact that she fertilizes her enzymes to create new cells rapidly and Enzymes are large Molecules, so was Jinton said to destroy objects on a molecular level, however what your disregarding is the instantaneous replication of cells to that of the simultaneous KEKE TOTA, ok let me see if i cant get this clearer to you....
Its like the jinton would enclose her and just like a fire that would burn your(skin) EPIDERMIS BEFORE IT REACHES THE DERMIS you have the ability to duplicate your DERMIS before the fire reaches it; hence the fire will burn via the epidermis and your old dermis would now become your epidermis and your new dermis that you have just created serves as a second layer, that is how the regeration jutsu operates. Its an instantaneous duplication of cells That is why she cant be killed unless she's out of chackra........

i hope yo understood i tried my best to break it down to you....
 
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