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[Theory] The Reason Why Madara Survived The Battle With Hashirama (Solved)
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Well good theory and everything but, and this has probably been said multiple times but I don't want to read 15 pages right now, Madara obviously actually did get stabbed in that spot, since that is the same spot basically where he put Hashirama's cells, in his "WOUND" as Madara stated himself. What other wound would he have had? None, Hashirama must have actually stabbed him there to make the wound for Madara to implant the DNA. And the sword being missing in the next panel means nothing, all it means is Kishi forgot to draw it, or Hashi took it out without Kishi drawing that. Kishi makes mistakes, not everything has some meaning behind it.
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bull crap I know someone already said it but that sparkle is him remember the rock hitting him after he got him when he was a kid
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Here are some evidence that Madara was beaten fair and square, and that he couldn't see the Bushin:
1. Before Madara and Hashirama Bushin clashed: Madara's Sharingan is off
2. After the clash between Madara and the Bushin: Sharingan still off
Here you can see the confidence of Madara. I am saying this because later we see that this was really Madara since Hashirama wounded it, and the wound is confirm. Thus what Hashirama is seeing (Hashi and his bushin) is the real Madara, not an illusion.
3. After Hashirama stabbed Madara: Madara is surprised, and his Sharingan is still off.
Here again, the wound is confirmed, which means that everything Madara is saying, which are what Hashirama heard from him, is true. Madara's own words prove that he didn't use any genjutsu, or time prediction jutsu. Why? Because the wound ios real, and therefore everything within this pannel is real.
Now, some resilient fanboys will continue to argue. However, let me know that when someone turns his sharingan off, all the Jutsu linked to the Sharingan are also off. And don't say that Edo Madara can use Susanoo when Rinnegan is on. The reason is that Madara does not turn his Sharingan off in this case. Rather, he is simply switching between two dojutsu that are already activated. Maybe Madara can really see through Hashirama's wood Bushin, but here he obviously didn't because his wound was real. The fact that his Sharingan was deactivated support also why he didn't see through the bushin. Moreover, the genjutsu argument using the fact that Hashirama was tired is BS. Madara cannot continue to use his Sharingan when Hashirama is tired. The reason is the shitload of chakra and stamina in this manga is Hashi himself. Besides, all the fanboys should not forget That Hashirama took almost all Madara chakra - the Susanoo. This can even justify why Madara's Sharingan went off.
Final Note: I dare anyone to read carefully Madara's statement and link them to the fact that his wound was real and his Sharingan was off. You will see that Hashirama is not hallucinating, and that his statement are accurate. Madara was simply lucky to escape death, and this is the only fact that is to be revealed by Kishi. Someone might have helped him. How did he came up with the name Zetsu? How did he obtained the spare Sharingan? We will see surely all these before his is defeated.
1. Before Madara and Hashirama Bushin clashed: Madara's Sharingan is off
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2. After the clash between Madara and the Bushin: Sharingan still off
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3. After Hashirama stabbed Madara: Madara is surprised, and his Sharingan is still off.
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Here again, the wound is confirmed, which means that everything Madara is saying, which are what Hashirama heard from him, is true. Madara's own words prove that he didn't use any genjutsu, or time prediction jutsu. Why? Because the wound ios real, and therefore everything within this pannel is real.
Now, some resilient fanboys will continue to argue. However, let me know that when someone turns his sharingan off, all the Jutsu linked to the Sharingan are also off. And don't say that Edo Madara can use Susanoo when Rinnegan is on. The reason is that Madara does not turn his Sharingan off in this case. Rather, he is simply switching between two dojutsu that are already activated. Maybe Madara can really see through Hashirama's wood Bushin, but here he obviously didn't because his wound was real. The fact that his Sharingan was deactivated support also why he didn't see through the bushin. Moreover, the genjutsu argument using the fact that Hashirama was tired is BS. Madara cannot continue to use his Sharingan when Hashirama is tired. The reason is the shitload of chakra and stamina in this manga is Hashi himself. Besides, all the fanboys should not forget That Hashirama took almost all Madara chakra - the Susanoo. This can even justify why Madara's Sharingan went off.
Final Note: I dare anyone to read carefully Madara's statement and link them to the fact that his wound was real and his Sharingan was off. You will see that Hashirama is not hallucinating, and that his statement are accurate. Madara was simply lucky to escape death, and this is the only fact that is to be revealed by Kishi. Someone might have helped him. How did he came up with the name Zetsu? How did he obtained the spare Sharingan? We will see surely all these before his is defeated.
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I really like the deduction. But I feel that it is such a shame that Madara's secret technique is finally revealed as a simple genjutsu. I expected it to be something completely new, and I suspect that most other Madara fans would want it that way too.
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It could be something new, I didn't specify what type of Genjutsu he used, only that it was Genjutsu Lol
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MilwaukeegHost seems like he's just being arrogant to me. No way anyone would dare go near a battle of that scale.
But what you said about the wound being necessary makes perfect sense. Not to mention when Madara revealed to the Kages where Hashi's face was from his cells, the location is right at the spot if not around where Hashi stabbed him. Most likely he took Hashi's cells and transplanted them in the wound to heal himself and led to him staying alive after the battle.
Yes you Are correct, but i think madara did died in the battle at least a large part of him died that day because when madara rescued obito he was a old man but in "edo thensei " he is right after the fight of hashirama.....so he used a jistsu to bearly keep his life its like middle stage of death and life
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