first sage hokage
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you dont know anything about the manga you jus pick sides and stand, pls turn off you computer
you naruto fans DO NOT KNOW if senju are stronger than uchiha READ
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bruce lee was uchiha
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hashirama was definately not just born with his sage mode of his techniques. if anything you provided evidence of his superiority. without a bloodline limit he is able to claim the strongest shinobi to have lived. He beat madara on countless occasions and all because he trained hard and never gave up, not because he had some sort of special bloodline limit that made him superior, like the sharingan.
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all of your theards suck, you dont kno enough about the manga to go in detail, sit down and learn somthing
Sharinnigan
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how could it have been after the fight with hashirama? MADARA HIMSELF SAID HASHIRAMA IS THE ONLY OTHER PERSON TO SEE HIS PERFECT SUSANOO?????????????????? /////////////////////THREADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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wa.....WTF is wood style XD bloodline limit DUDE your a fake naruto fan if you didnt kno that?!? which he had since birth all blood line limits do an can use them as a child, the sharingan you have to unlock, develop, etc. lol dude go back and read manga.
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thats funny that you say I dont know anything about the manga, when ur the one who thinks the rinnegan is a natural evolution of the sharingan (which its not) if you don't believe me you can narutowiki it yourself, also u think perfect susanoo came after hashirama, even though madara admitted that hashirama is the only other person to see it.... reread the manga and learn about it yourself before you tell others they dont know anything about the manga you ignorant little child. thanks
Kishimoto never said anything about Hashirama beating Madara "over 100 times". The Senju and Uchiha were evenly-matched during their various wars; the chapter title itself is "Even". In the final battle, the Senju gained the upper hand. The reason for this is laid out unmistakably in the beginning of the chapter:
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Shinobi are trained to be emotionless killing machines. However, when Tobirama injured Izuna:
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Madara lost his composure and attended to him instead of continuing the battle: something he's not supposed to do as not just a shinobi, but the Uchiha clan leader. Instead, he takes Izuna and flees the battle in hopes of saving his life, and in turn abandoning the Uchiha clan to fend for themselves. That as Hashirama said, put the Uchiha clan in bad situation, as their two best men are out of the game. And of course we know what the Uchiha clan would do to Madara after that.
Secondly, you should note that when Madara returned, he fought the Senju clan himself, for an entire day, with no assistance from the Uchiha clan (And no one was even able to scratch him).
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Madara and Hashirama for the most part were unable to defeat one another. Even though Madara was "defeated" at the final valley, this chapter makes it rather clear that he didn't care for anything left in world (Which Obito's thoughts would mirror when he similarly decided to attack Konohagakure). He goal really was to take Hashirama's DNA and gain the Rinnegan, in order to free the Juubi and proceed with Project Tsukinome.
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and u thing that during the fight Madagara Vs. hashirma . Susano was not a solid armor?? more like aa ... what ? scare crow?
susano is sold in all forms perfect or not....
first sage hokage
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That doesnt mean it was used on the battle feild that was seen!!!!!!!!! Between them mf they were freinds once no twice, prob training together or somthing, we seen the whole fight and he never used it mofo so /////////// yooou
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NOOO its different go back and read manga he is the only one with a full body sasunooo LEGS!!!! can walk and carry him!
Sharinnigan
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its ok, i remember the first time i had to admit i was wrong, i was in denial for a bit too buddy
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Rinnegan is not exclusively for the Uchihas, senjus could get it too. They are both successor of the Sage after all.
Without rinnegan in the equation, Hashirama Senju still is more powerful than EMS Madara.
therefore: Senjus > Uchihas
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no cause sharingan is in uchiha blood not senju they both have diff. halfs of one person SO6P so no sanju would have to steal the sharingan to get it like what madara did to him, but they both need each other in the end to use zangi THATS IT because zangi is the SO6P move that he used to create all things. AND the uchiha dont need hashi's cell to develop rinngan they come over time and is the original and most powerful eyes of the SO6P if you dont have the original eyes to fight the original body its not equal
Tell me how stealing a sharingan would be more difficult than stealing a senju dna?
Fact is to unlock rinnegan, you need uchiha eyes and senju dna.
One needs both. If you are a senju, you need an uchiha eyes. If you are an Uchiha, then you need a senju dna.
Uchihas can't achive it themselves because they would die out of old age before being able to unlock it. Even with senju dna, Madara was too old when he finally unlocked the rinnegan.
Senju & Uchiha are "halves" of the Rikudo Sage as Madara said in this chapter; two halves born from a god. They represent Yin & Yang, which Obito also said when explaining the origin of the Izanagi.
Yin & Yang as the tablet said, are meant to work together and create new things. One cannot exist without the other, nor is one more powerful than the other.
To say the Senju are more powerful is not only asinine. It is a lack of reading comprehension as far as this story's message.
Yin & Yang as the tablet said, are meant to work together and create new things. One cannot exist without the other, nor is one more powerful than the other.
To say the Senju are more powerful is not only asinine. It is a lack of reading comprehension as far as this story's message.
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here kid
also just so u can see for yourself
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please read about the rinnegan, READ THE SECOND PARAGRAPH OF THE BACKGROUND SECTION so you can see how wrong you are, please go reread the manga and actually pay attention to the words this time.... you're making yourself look so dumb and ignorantalso just so u can see for yourself
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in the upper left hand panel MADARA (WHILE IN PERFECT SUSANOO) STILLLLLLL SAYS HASHIRAMA IS THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN BEAT HIM... lemme emphasize...... madara....... WHILE IN PERFECT SUSANOO.... STILL SAYS HASHIRAMA IS THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN BEAT HIM...... OK????? proof enough for you yet???? i can get more manga pages if u want.
bruce lee was uchiha
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"wa.....WTF is wood style bloodline limit DUDE your a fake naruto fan if you didnt kno that?!? which he had since birth all blood line limits do an can use them as a child, the sharingan you have to unlock, develop, etc. lol dude go back and read manga."
the ability to use mokuton and having a sharingan are 2 sincerely different things. the sharingan is a dojutsu, where as mokuton is a mix of chakra affinities and manipulation of such a mixture. and that was pretty cool of you to just skip over my valid point of "hashirama was not born with his sage mode, or any of his techniques" he had to work for everything he had. unlike madara who awakened his sharingan due to emotion. please show me any other character that gets a power upgrade like the uchiha get soley over emotion.... oh naruto because he is a jinchuriki? anybody else? okay then, learn your shit, shut your mouth and quit replying to posts that you have little to no business replying to.
the ability to use mokuton and having a sharingan are 2 sincerely different things. the sharingan is a dojutsu, where as mokuton is a mix of chakra affinities and manipulation of such a mixture. and that was pretty cool of you to just skip over my valid point of "hashirama was not born with his sage mode, or any of his techniques" he had to work for everything he had. unlike madara who awakened his sharingan due to emotion. please show me any other character that gets a power upgrade like the uchiha get soley over emotion.... oh naruto because he is a jinchuriki? anybody else? okay then, learn your shit, shut your mouth and quit replying to posts that you have little to no business replying to.
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