Why all the hate against Tobirama?

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-face palm-...... People who keep defending Tobirama by saying "He did the right thing".. Madara turned evil due to him being neglected by Tobirama.

I'm not defending him, I'm defending the facts behind what we read, and the fact where that he did do the right thing.
 

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tobirama is the man who pretty much killed madara brother... he has never liked the uchiha... he calls them evil.... he never speaks well of the uchiha... he was more than will to finish madara off when he was defeated... and now wants to take away the title of hokage when the top two shinobi are in agreement on who it will be... and you can honestly ask why the hatred....

This is well spoken
 

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tobirama is the man who pretty much killed madara brother... he has never liked the uchiha... he calls them evil.... he never speaks well of the uchiha... he was more than will to finish madara off when he was defeated... and now wants to take away the title of hokage when the top two shinobi are in agreement on who it will be... and you can honestly ask why the hatred....

Don't get me wrong i agree but it wasen't up to the "2 best shinobi" it was up to the people of the village, is a democracy not a dictatorship based on power alone.
 

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And how is it his fault, when it's outright stated that the reason why Madara would not have been made Hokage is because everyone including the Uchiha acknowledged Hashirama as the true founder of Konohagakure?
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It was Hashirama who was acting like their father, it's outright stated. Tobirama wanted to change that.

I think you didn't read.

Madara helped with Hashirama idea for creating the village so it's only fair if Madara is acknowledge for his ideas too, i.e the village name
 

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I'm not defending him, I'm defending the facts behind what we read, and the fact where that he did do the right thing.

It is due to his actions that Uchiha made a coupde'tate later on. Hashirama was the wiser man at this time. Tobirama didn't trust the Uchiha. If you can't trust your own people.. your not gonna accomplish equality..

Madara helped with Hashirama idea for creating the village so it's only fair if Madara is acknowledge for his ideas too, i.e the village name


He only came up with the village's name.. the whole organizational system and etc, were ideas of Hashirama.. and creating a village.

But I do agree Madara being made the Hokage was a wise choice.
 

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-face palm-...... People who keep defending Tobirama by saying "He did the right thing".. Madara turned evil due to him being neglected by Tobirama.
No, Madara turned evil because of his false preconceptions along with the chemicals inside his brain going off caused by Izuna's death and again, his own false preconceptions.
 

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It would have been cool if Madara did turn out to be Hokage, Look at what Gaara accomplished, he had a shitty childhood and that did not stop him from being a good Kazekage, If Madara had been chosen to be hokage in my honest opinion I'm not trying to be a fanboy, he would of been a great one, But he didn't get picked so stop crying people.
 

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No, Madara turned evil because of his false preconceptions along with the chemicals inside his brain going off caused by Izuna's death and again, his own false preconceptions.

Agreed. IMHO but parties are at fault but Tobirama shouldn't be singled out and blamed for everything... >...<
 

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Agreed. IMHO but parties are at fault but Tobirama shouldn't be singled out and blamed for everything... >...<

Realistically, its hard to tell whose at fault. Still, Madara shouldn't have to act like a little bitch.

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No, Madara turned evil because of his false preconceptions along with the chemicals inside his brain going off caused by Izuna's death and again, his own false preconceptions.

Hashirama making him the Hokage was the wiser choice.......thats what its all about. Leaf would've been the strongest village for ages to come. Just like some people blame Hashirama for not making Madara or acknowledging him.. Hashirama was trying to make that problem go away.
 

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Hashirama making him the Hokage was the wiser choice.......thats what its all about. Leaf would've been the strongest village for ages to come. Just like some people blame Hashirama for not making Madara or acknowledging him.. Hashirama was trying to make that problem go away.

Exactly!!!!
 

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Hashirama making him the Hokage was the wiser choice.......thats what its all about. Leaf would've been the strongest village for ages to come. Just like some people blame Hashirama for not making Madara or acknowledging him.. Hashirama was trying to make that problem go away.

That would be a selfish and unrealistic approach. Its better to do it the democratic approach. Although, I don't much agree with pure democracy as the minority is always left with the bad end of the stick. That's why I like democratic republics. Majority rule, minority rights.
 

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Realistically, its hard to tell whose at fault. Still, Madara shouldn't have to act like a little bitch.

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tobi-trash should have never been a winey coward
 

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All of those fodders who didn't read just why Madara couldn't become Hokage are raging with their misinterpretations due to lack of close reading, that's why.

They actually believe it's Tobirama's fault that Madara didn't become Hokage :|

Dude , you seriously need to get over whatever high horse your on. It is partly Tobirama's fault , as seen though out this chapter Madara tried to go about things peacefully, He stopped hashirama from killing himself because he really didn't want to see his best friend die. He only acted the way he acted because of tobirama, stop denying manga facts.... Madara knew what tobirama would do and orochimaru stated it out loud ; Tobirama suppressed them.
Just face it the dude is a tool
 

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-face palm-...... People who keep defending Tobirama by saying "He did the right thing".. Madara turned evil due to him being neglected by Tobirama.
Nobody makes you do anything, its all about personal choice.
Naruto was neglected by the village, why isn't he evil? :|
 

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Nobody makes you do anything, its all about personal choice.
Naruto was neglected by the village, why isn't he evil? :|

Haha good point :D, naruto overcame hatred but Madara and Sasuke have their panties tied in a knot....so....
 
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