People of NB.........please......DON'T BE NAIVE!!

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Please tell me..........why is it that Madara shares even a fraction of the blame for the way things turned out?

Please think hard about my following statement:


If Madara was truly all of these things that most people of NB believe him to be:

EVIL

POWER HUNGRY

CRAZY........


Then why did Madara stop Hashirama from killing himself?


The way I see it, that would have been perfect for him, seeing as how Hashirama was the only one who could stop him in that era, he was the leader of his enemies, the Senju.

Hashirama's death would have paved the way for the annihilation of the Senju clan as there would be no one else left to stand up to Madara's power.





Madara stopped him because he was convinced of Hashirama's intentions and resolve.


It was completely clarified with that action, that Madara completely forgave the Senju clan for the deaths of his FOUR BROTHERS!

Madara abandoned all of his ill feelings and put all of his trust in the alliance and the dream he once shared with his old friend............which was..........HARMONY and PEACE through LOVE and TRUST!

"SHOWING THEIR GUTS TO EACH OTHER"





But ONE PERSON just couldn't let go of the past.

ONE PERSON just didn't understand the meaning of a fresh start or a peace treaty.


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Madara...........lost his whole family to the war with the Senju, 4 siblings and his Father!

If the Uchiha were so prone to hatred as Tobirama believed, then how come Madara gave up on that hatred and his revenge?

How was it that after all the losses that Madara suffered, he was still able to shun his hatred and start anew?



After the peace began, all that Madara had left was his promise to his younger brother Izuna, the protection of their clan!



Tobirama's distrust took that away from Madara!

Madara foresaw that sooner or later, the Uchiha would face extinction at the hands of the Senju because of Tobirama's prejudice, who was next in line for leadership.





So he did the only thing any man would do for the protection of his people, even after the people whom he cared for had abandoned him.

He attacked the Senju before they had a chance to make the first move!



 
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I dont think he was power hungry I just think he was filled with hatred and vengeance
 

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They testing their love dude...

OT: i think he left to become stronger so that he able to protect his clan... but i am not sure how fond madara towards his clan as tobi is :|
 

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I dont think he was power hungry I just think he was filled with hatred and vengeance

you didnt even read...........why bother replying? if he was filled with all of that why did he forgive the Senju and form Konoha.......idiot?
 

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Madara respects Hashi. That's all. He IS arrogant and he is crazy. No matter what logic you use to state otherwise. Deal with it.
 

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I agree with youU_U
 

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I agree with this statement!

A man bent on hatred and vengeance does not forgive and forget the way Madara did, all Madara wanted was the protection of the Uchiha, that was the promise he made to a dying Izuna. But Tobirama just couldn't let go, he didn't share Hashirama and Madara's vision for harmony between everyone, he wanted a world without Uchiha.
 

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You are absolutely right sir. I'm no Uchiha fanboy either, I actually hated them(especially Madara and Sas-gay). But I must admit that Tobirama was a duche.
 

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Forgiving and forgetting are two different things. You think Madara is just going to brush over the fact that his whole immediate family is dead? Blood is thicker than water, my friend. In 624, Madara doesn't say that he will give up on hatred and revenge. He says "I will trust your clan." Trust can still be broken, and I think throughout this chapter Madara still remains a bit skeptical. When they're talking it seems like Hashirama is putting in more work to make everything work out. It doesn't seem the same as before. There's more tension still.

However, I do agree with you that he's not (or at least wasn't at that time) evil and crazy, you made your point well for that.
 

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you didnt even read...........why bother replying? if he was filled with all of that why did he forgive the Senju and form Konoha.......idiot?

He didn't forgive the senju, he believed in hashirama. The clan obviously forced his hand, as even THEY didn't believe madara helped create the village. There must be a reason they don't trust him, and I believe it has something to do with him being the strongest uchiha at that time.
 

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Forgiving and forgetting are two different things. You think Madara is just going to brush over the fact that his whole immediate family is dead? Blood is thicker than water, my friend. In 624, Madara doesn't say that he will give up on hatred and revenge. He says "I will trust your clan." Trust can still be broken, and I think throughout this chapter Madara still remains a bit skeptical. When they're talking it seems like Hashirama is putting in more work to make everything work out. It doesn't seem the same as before. There's more tension still.

However, I do agree with you that he's not (or at least wasn't at that time) evil and crazy, you made your point well for that.

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Tobirama is the reason for that!
 

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Just one thing to this:
Madara was good then and thats y he stopped hashirama!!:hint:
And do u know the name of next chapter ?? Its "Madara turns evil"!! Which means he was good before that...:snick:
Just this...now u decide!!:hooray:
 

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Tobirama is the reason for that!

He's part of the reason, but not the whole reason. If you had lived Madara's life, could you honestly tell me that at that point the only thing you'd be worried about was Tobirama?
 

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Did you see the look madara gave tobirama? Madara and hashi trusted each other. Tobirama caused the mistrust
 

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You are absolutely right sir. I'm no Uchiha fanboy either, I actually hated them(especially Madara and Sas-gay). But I must admit that Tobirama was a duche.
 
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